Re: [Langcom] Fon Wikipedia - eligible?

2018-05-23 Thread Steven White 
"Stale" was an approach developed to find a way to close requests that had been 
"on hold" for a long time (5+ years!) without any subsequent meaningful 
activity.


For new requests, if the request is otherwise "eligible", but nobody has 
created any test content, we'll generally mark request as "on hold" (use 
"|status=waiting" in the on-wiki templates), and make a comment on the request 
page saying that the request is on hold until people start creating content on 
the wiki. Obviously, I've been working through a big backlog of requests for 
now. But my idea, at least—and Committee has seemed fine with it—is that 
projects can be "on hold" for up to a year. If after a year, no content has 
been created, then "on hold" is changed to "stale". If content has been 
created, "on hold" is changed to eligible.


(There is one minor complicating detail. If a handful of pages is created right 
at the time of request, and then nothing further happens, we take that as the 
equivalent of "no community has come to create content", and the request can 
still become stale. If content continues to be added, even if only by one 
individual, then the project can still become "eligible".)


Is that all clear enough?


SJW


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Re: [Langcom] Fon Wikipedia - eligible?

2018-05-23 Thread Amir E. Aharoni 
This effort is just four days old—it's a bit early to even consider the
possibility that it will be stale :)

I don't remember ever marking a language as eligible myself, so I wanted to
make sure.


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2018-05-23 17:34 GMT+03:00 Gerard Meijssen :

> Hoi,
> When a language has an ISO-639-3 code (I think I remember that it does) it
> is eligible. The current practice of determining something as "stale" does
> not mean that it is not eligible, it only means that we do not think much
> of the effort so far.
> Thanks,
>   GerardM
>
> On 23 May 2018 at 11:11, Amir E. Aharoni 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> At the Wikimedia Hackathon last week, I spoke to a speaker of Fon, a
>> language of Benin. He added a request for a new Fon Wikipedia and started
>> translating the interface.
>>
>> The language has a code and is living and spoken by several millions of
>> people (statistics differ, between 2–4 million). Any objections to marking
>> as eligible?
>>
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Re: [Langcom] Fon Wikipedia - eligible?

2018-05-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen 
Hoi,
When a language has an ISO-639-3 code (I think I remember that it does) it
is eligible. The current practice of determining something as "stale" does
not mean that it is not eligible, it only means that we do not think much
of the effort so far.
Thanks,
  GerardM

On 23 May 2018 at 11:11, Amir E. Aharoni 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> At the Wikimedia Hackathon last week, I spoke to a speaker of Fon, a
> language of Benin. He added a request for a new Fon Wikipedia and started
> translating the interface.
>
> The language has a code and is living and spoken by several millions of
> people (statistics differ, between 2–4 million). Any objections to marking
> as eligible?
>
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Re: [Langcom] Fon Wikipedia - eligible?

2018-05-23 Thread Steven White 
I'd like to see him create some content, too. But you don't need to ask 
permission to mark living languages with a reasonable number of speakers as 
"eligible"; you can just do it.


Steven


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Hi,

At the Wikimedia Hackathon last week, I spoke to a speaker of Fon, a
language of Benin. He added a request for a new Fon Wikipedia and started
translating the interface.

The language has a code and is living and spoken by several millions of
people (statistics differ, between 2–4 million). Any objections to marking
as eligible?

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