Re: [l2h] converting quotes

2003-08-14 Thread Ross Moore


On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, James Howison wrote:

 Hi all,

 I'd really like to convert the latex quotation marks, `` and '' to the
 recommended HTML curly quotes, #8220 instead of `` and #8221 instead
 of '' - standard codes that render the curly quotes beautifully.

set
 $USE_CURLY_QUOTES =1;
in an initialisation file.

This is not the default, because not all browsers actually render
these characters. (At least, that was the situation 3-4 years ago when
the LaTex2HTML coding was written.)


Hope this helps,

Ross Moore



 I'm sure that this is possible through latex2html - the codes are
 listed around unicode.pl:722 - but either I can't find the magic
 incantation to have latex2html do the conversion or there is a bug
 preventing this from working in my version (1.70) or set-up.

 I've tried:

 latex2html -html_version 4.0,unicode test.tex

 What is strange is that this does work for, say \v{Z} which converts to
 the code #381; (and that is definitely happening through unicode.pl (I
 changed the translation and it worked fine).

 So why doesn't the translation for `` (which is correctly listed in the
 unicode.pl as \`\`) and '' which is correctly listed as \'\' work?

 I've had a good hunt around for this - but I can't see why the other
 codes are converted but not the quotes.

 Cheers,
 James

 ps.  minimal test.tex follows

 --

 \documentclass[11pt]{article}
 \begin{document}
 ``Why are these quotes not converted to unicode''  (they are in the
 unicode.pl file)
 While this symbol (also in the unicode.pl file) is? - \v{Z}
 \end{document}

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Re: [l2h] converting quotes

2003-08-14 Thread James Howison
On Saturday, August 9, 2003, at 02:53  am, Ross Moore wrote:
On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, James Howison wrote:

Hi all,

I'd really like to convert the latex quotation marks, `` and '' to the
recommended HTML curly quotes, #8220 instead of `` and #8221 instead
of '' - standard codes that render the curly quotes beautifully.
set
 $USE_CURLY_QUOTES =1;
in an initialisation file.
That's great Ross - it works fine.  I'm a little concerned that I found 
this so hard to find in the documentation or indeed online.  In fact 
this phrase is kindof a googlewhack - a word that only is indexed in 
google once (and unfortunately I didn't find it because the email 
writer had miss-spelled quotation!).

That won't be true after these emails are indexed though ;)  Is there 
perhaps a more complete list of environment variables in the works?

http://www.google.com/search?q=$USE_CURLY_QUOTESie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8

Anyvay - I'm glad that this works - thanks a million.

This is not the default, because not all browsers actually render
these characters. (At least, that was the situation 3-4 years ago when
the LaTex2HTML coding was written.)
As you point out that was indeed true - but the times are a-changing ;) 
 It would be great to make stuff like this more visible - obviously 
without forcing it on anyone.  This guy seems to have done good 
research into the best way to handle this:

http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/quotes-in-html.html

Cheers
James


Hope this helps,

	Ross Moore


I'm sure that this is possible through latex2html - the codes are
listed around unicode.pl:722 - but either I can't find the magic
incantation to have latex2html do the conversion or there is a bug
preventing this from working in my version (1.70) or set-up.
I've tried:

latex2html -html_version 4.0,unicode test.tex

What is strange is that this does work for, say \v{Z} which converts 
to
the code #381; (and that is definitely happening through unicode.pl 
(I
changed the translation and it worked fine).

So why doesn't the translation for `` (which is correctly listed in 
the
unicode.pl as \`\`) and '' which is correctly listed as \'\' work?

I've had a good hunt around for this - but I can't see why the other
codes are converted but not the quotes.
Cheers,
James
ps.  minimal test.tex follows

--

\documentclass[11pt]{article}
\begin{document}
``Why are these quotes not converted to unicode''  (they are in the
unicode.pl file)
While this symbol (also in the unicode.pl file) is? - \v{Z}
\end{document}
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[l2h] converting quotes

2003-08-14 Thread James Howison
Hi all,

I'd really like to convert the latex quotation marks, `` and '' to the 
recommended HTML curly quotes, #8220 instead of `` and #8221 instead 
of '' - standard codes that render the curly quotes beautifully.

I'm sure that this is possible through latex2html - the codes are 
listed around unicode.pl:722 - but either I can't find the magic 
incantation to have latex2html do the conversion or there is a bug 
preventing this from working in my version (1.70) or set-up.

I've tried:

latex2html -html_version 4.0,unicode test.tex

What is strange is that this does work for, say \v{Z} which converts to 
the code #381; (and that is definitely happening through unicode.pl (I 
changed the translation and it worked fine).

So why doesn't the translation for `` (which is correctly listed in the 
unicode.pl as \`\`) and '' which is correctly listed as \'\' work?

I've had a good hunt around for this - but I can't see why the other 
codes are converted but not the quotes.

Cheers,
James
ps.  minimal test.tex follows

--

\documentclass[11pt]{article}
\begin{document}
``Why are these quotes not converted to unicode''  (they are in the 
unicode.pl file)
While this symbol (also in the unicode.pl file) is? - \v{Z}
\end{document}

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