Re: [Lazarus] [OT] New free IDE from Trolltech

2008-11-02 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Kostas Michalopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Qt's dual license says that you have to give copyrights to Trolltech if you want your modifications to be merged back to the Qt codebase. So basically anyone who worked on Qt to improve KDE or his own

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] New free IDE from Trolltech

2008-11-02 Thread Mac Programmer
Probably what you're seeing here in the RemObjects/Codegear deal is evidence of larger trends taking place in the software industry: (1) Continued consolidation, like in most industries. Codegear and RemObjects both probably concluded that their .NET products were going nowhere fast in a

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] New free IDE from Trolltech

2008-11-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
2008/11/2 Mac Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Linux, hence the need for Lazarus. What it tells me is that Lazarus and Free Pascal are still seen as useful, but primarily for use with legacy Delphi projects, not necessarily with new projects. This is definitely not the case with our company. We

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] New free IDE from Trolltech

2008-11-02 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Mac Programmer schrieb: (2) Continued standardizing on the dominant IDE's for most large organizations, that is on Visual Studio, Eclipse or maybe XCode if you're doing serious Mac work. This also frees up the compiler and tool developers from having to do an IDE for their products.

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] New free IDE from Trolltech

2008-11-02 Thread Mac Programmer
- A version of SWIG that supports Object Pascal syntax, so we could create Python (and possibly other) interfaces to our classes, This is as useless as a a .Net backend. Such a beast might have OP syntax but everything must be recoded anyways due to different libraries etc. Afraid I'm not

[Lazarus] [OT] New free IDE from Trolltech

2008-11-01 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Has anybody seen this one...? http://trolltech.com/developer/qt-creator It seems CodeGear is getting stiff competition from all sides now! RemObjects took over the .NET side. Eclipse from the Java side. Free Pascal/Lazarus taking over the Delphi native side (my personal opinion). And now

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] New free IDE from Trolltech

2008-11-01 Thread Hess, Philip J
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Graeme Geldenhuys Sent: Sat 11/1/2008 2:50 AM To: General mailing list Subject: [Lazarus] [OT] New free IDE from Trolltech Has anybody seen this one...? http://trolltech.com/developer/qt-creator It seems CodeGear is getting

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] New free IDE from Trolltech

2008-11-01 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
2008/11/1 Hess, Philip J [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Guess you didn't get the news about RemObjects and Codegear joining forces: Yes I did, but from the accouncements, it was pretty clear to me that RemObjects are going to do most of the work. CodeGear will simply comment here and there. All CodeGear is

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] New free IDE from Trolltech

2008-11-01 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
I think it's very interresting how things turned out. Trolltech started as a very small company, like 2 guys in a garage, and they started developing their UNIX GUI library, a very small niche market. At this time, Borland was huge, with their Windows GUI library + IDE + Toolchain, and hat a large

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] New free IDE from Trolltech

2008-11-01 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's very interresting how things turned out. Trolltech started as a very small company, like 2 guys in a garage, and they started developing their UNIX GUI library, a very small niche market. Yeah, I

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] New free IDE from Trolltech

2008-11-01 Thread Kostas Michalopoulos
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: I must say, I am truly impressed with the Qt product. It's just amazing what Trolltech has achieved and at the speed that they are doing it. I think Qt's dual license says that you have to give copyrights to Trolltech if you want your modifications to be merged back