Re: [Lazarus] Bug in CodeTools define templates

2008-03-21 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 20/03/2008, Mattias Gaertner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=11024


 Fixed?


Yes, thank you very much Mattias. Your idea of using a FPGPlatform
define is much cleaner solution.  :)


Regards,
  - Graeme -


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Re: [Lazarus] Can anyone else read the attached bitmap using TImage?

2008-03-21 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 21/03/2008, Dominique Louis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thing is I need to get it fixed, at least on my local version, by next
  week as I have a Beta release shortly after that. So any help would be
  greatly appreciated.

Sorry, my knowledge of Carbon (or even the LCL internals) is
non-existing. Felipe might be able to help you debug this. He seems to
be an expert in the Mac department.


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[Lazarus] ZLIB_VERSION inconsistency in PasZlib....

2008-03-21 Thread Dominique Louis
Hi,
  I noticed that in
   zbase ZLIB_VERSION is defined as

const
   ZLIB_VERSION : string[10] = '1.1.2';

While in PasZlib it's defined as...

const
   ZLIB_VERSION = '1.2';

My suggestions is that the zbase.pas one is deleted and the PasZlib 
version is updated to
   ZLIB_VERSION : string[10] = '1.1.2';
As most people only want to include PasZlib in their units.

Also is anyone working on updating PasZlib to version 1.2.3? More a 
query, than a request.


Dominique.



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Re: [Lazarus] lazarus for education

2008-03-21 Thread Rainer Hamann
Hi,

sorry for my very late answer to your message.

1) I'm working with a logo-like version of Pascal for the first few 
lessons to  teach the structure of Pascal and to find correct algorithms 
for graphical problems.

2) Later on in a second level object are used, but there is no class 
declaration visible for the students. Before the compilation starts, the 
source code is extend to unit with class declarations.

3) At the third level Students use several forms with class declaration 
inside their source code.

These steps make it easier for beginners and they more often have 
success in creating a correct program.

I will try to develop a first version for Lazarus in order to show you 
and others, what my personal opinion of an educational version of Lazarus.

Karel (and other tools) leave a break between the version for beginners 
and the version of the IDE / programming students have to use 
afterwards. Many teachers I know, say that their students are not able 
to create a correct class declaration even after a year of education.

Regards,

Rainer Hamann
 Hi.

   
 I developed a teaching / learning edition for pascal based on Delphi and
 RemObjects Pascal Script.
 There are two different levels at the moment :
 One is Logo like and tested with children of 9 years and up, another
 

 There was a pascal-based programming language  IDE called Karel,
 and it work similar to logo:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_%28programming_language%29

 Unfortunately, I was for DOS. There was even a book.

 There are modern versions, but related to C/C++  Java.

 Im not sure, but seems that the tool you are working,
 and the Karel tool share similar things, like
 a visual representation, kids can understand, like logo,
 and an structured programming language based on pascal.

 Many schools doesn't teach programming stuff like logo,
 anymore, they don't found it useful :-s

 But, I have confirmed, that such kind of tools,
 actually improve kids ability to solve problems,
 in life, even if they don't go to study Programming
 in Collegue or University...

   
 I would like to know, if there is interest in such a tool.
 

 Could you define interest ?

 I think a such kind of tool could be good, for schools.

 If you are looking for developers, you could be more specific.

 My daily job doesn't leave me much of a time, but your project seems useful,
 I may see how I can help...

 Cheers.

 maramirezc


   

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Re: [Lazarus] lazarus for education

2008-03-21 Thread willem
Rainer Hamann wrote:
 Hi,

 sorry for my very late answer to your message.

 1) I'm working with a logo-like version of Pascal for the first few 
 lessons to  teach the structure of Pascal and to find correct algorithms 
 for graphical problems.

 2) Later on in a second level object are used, but there is no class 
 declaration visible for the students. Before the compilation starts, the 
 source code is extend to unit with class declarations.

 3) At the third level Students use several forms with class declaration 
 inside their source code.

 These steps make it easier for beginners and they more often have 
 success in creating a correct program.

 I will try to develop a first version for Lazarus in order to show you 
 and others, what my personal opinion of an educational version of Lazarus.

 Karel (and other tools) leave a break between the version for beginners 
 and the version of the IDE / programming students have to use 
 afterwards. Many teachers I know, say that their students are not able 
 to create a correct class declaration even after a year of education.

 Regards,

 Rainer Hamann
   
 Hi.

   
 
 I developed a teaching / learning edition for pascal based on Delphi and
 RemObjects Pascal Script.
 There are two different levels at the moment :
 One is Logo like and tested with children of 9 years and up, another
 
   
 There was a pascal-based programming language  IDE called Karel,
 and it work similar to logo:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_%28programming_language%29

 Unfortunately, I was for DOS. There was even a book.

 There are modern versions, but related to C/C++  Java.

 Im not sure, but seems that the tool you are working,
 and the Karel tool share similar things, like
 a visual representation, kids can understand, like logo,
 and an structured programming language based on pascal.

 Many schools doesn't teach programming stuff like logo,
 anymore, they don't found it useful :-s

 But, I have confirmed, that such kind of tools,
 actually improve kids ability to solve problems,
 in life, even if they don't go to study Programming
 in Collegue or University...

   
 
 I would like to know, if there is interest in such a tool.
 
   
 Could you define interest ?

 I think a such kind of tool could be good, for schools.

 If you are looking for developers, you could be more specific.

 My daily job doesn't leave me much of a time, but your project seems useful,
 I may see how I can help...

 Cheers.

 maramirezc


   
 
 I am very interested in your project.
   
Please tell me how I can help.

regards Wim

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