[Lazarus] [OT] New free IDE from Trolltech
Has anybody seen this one...? http://trolltech.com/developer/qt-creator It seems CodeGear is getting stiff competition from all sides now! RemObjects took over the .NET side. Eclipse from the Java side. Free Pascal/Lazarus taking over the Delphi native side (my personal opinion). And now TrollTech wants to take over there C/C++ side. Poor company [CodeGear] must be pretty worried by now - their future seems more and more uncertain by the day. Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] intrepid and lazarus
It seems not so easy to install fpc 2.3. I tried your link, after the fist step: $MAKE all OPT='-gl -O3p3' PP=ppc386 I got: Makefile:2261: *** No libgdb.a found, supply NOGDB=1 to disable debugger support. Stop. So I used: make all OPT='gl -O3p3' NOGDB=1 PP=ppc386 and I got this error and the compilation aborted: /home/giacca/programmi/fpc-2.3/fpcsrc/compiler/ppc386 -XX -CX -Ur -Xs -O2 -n -Fu/home/giacca/programmi/fpc-2.3/fpcsrc/rtl/units/i386-linux -Fisrc -FE. -FUunits/i386-linux gl -O3p3 -di386 -dRELEASE src/aspell.pp aspell.pp(1580,1) Error: Illegal expression aspell.pp(1580,10) Fatal: Syntax error, ; expected but identifier ASPELL_LOADED found Fatal: Compilation aborted make[5]: *** [aspell.ppu] Error 1 make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/giacca/programmi/fpc-2.3/fpcsrc/packages/aspell' make[4]: *** [fpc_smart] Error 2 make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/giacca/programmi/fpc-2.3/fpcsrc/packages/aspell' make[3]: *** [aspell_smart] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/giacca/programmi/fpc-2.3/fpcsrc/packages' make[2]: *** [packages_smart] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/giacca/programmi/fpc-2.3/fpcsrc' make[1]: *** [build-stamp.i386-linux] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/giacca/programmi/fpc-2.3/fpcsrc' make: *** [fpcsrc/build-stamp.i386-linux] Error 2 Suggestions? Andrea Mattias Gaertner ha scritto: On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:37:02 +0100 Andrea Mauri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but how can I install 2.3.x fpc? I downloaded fpcbuild.zip, what I have to do now? I have to uninstall fpc 2.2.2 before? No. Both can live happily together. Have you tried http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus#Installing_Free_Pascal_under_Linux.2FBSD_manually ? Mattias ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- Dr. Andrea Mauri, PhD Milano Chemometrics and QSAR Research Group Department of Environmental Sciences University of Milano-Bicocca P.zza della Scienza, 1 20126 Milano - Italy Tel: ++39 02 64482801 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://michem.disat.unimib.it/chm/ ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] intrepid and lazarus
Again, I got the previous error downloading fpcbuild.zip from http://www.freepascal.org/develop.var While using fpc.zip and running: make all OPT='gl -O3p3' PP=ppc386 I got: /home/giacca/programmi/fpc/compiler/ppc386 -di386 -Fl/home/giacca/programmi/fpc/libgdb/linux/i386 -Ur -Xs -O2 -n -Sg -Fu/home/giacca/programmi/fpc/rtl/units/i386-linux -Fu/home/giacca/programmi/fpc/packages/fv/units/i386-linux -Fu/home/giacca/programmi/fpc/packages/gdbint/units/i386-linux -Fu/home/giacca/programmi/fpc/packages/regexpr/units/i386-linux -Fu/home/giacca/programmi/fpc/packages/fcl-base/units/i386-linux -Fu/home/giacca/programmi/fpc/packages/fcl-xml/units/i386-linux -Fu/home/giacca/programmi/fpc/packages/chm/units/i386-linux -FE. -FUunits/i386-linux -Fl/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.3.2 -Flinclude -Fl/etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf gl -O3p3 -dRELEASE fp.pas /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncurses fp.pas(566,1) Error: Error while linking fp.pas(566,1) Fatal: There were 1 errors compiling module, stopping Fatal: Compilation aborted make[4]: *** [fp] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/giacca/programmi/fpc/ide' make[3]: *** [buildfp] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/giacca/programmi/fpc/ide' make[2]: *** [gdb] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/giacca/programmi/fpc/ide' make[1]: *** [ide_all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/giacca/programmi/fpc' make: *** [build-stamp.i386-linux] Error 2 Suggestions? Andrea Mattias Gaertner ha scritto: On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:37:02 +0100 Andrea Mauri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but how can I install 2.3.x fpc? I downloaded fpcbuild.zip, what I have to do now? I have to uninstall fpc 2.2.2 before? No. Both can live happily together. Have you tried http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus#Installing_Free_Pascal_under_Linux.2FBSD_manually ? Mattias ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- Dr. Andrea Mauri, PhD Milano Chemometrics and QSAR Research Group Department of Environmental Sciences University of Milano-Bicocca P.zza della Scienza, 1 20126 Milano - Italy Tel: ++39 02 64482801 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://michem.disat.unimib.it/chm/ ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] intrepid and lazarus
Andrea Mauri schreef: It seems not so easy to install fpc 2.3. I tried your link, after the fist step: $MAKE all OPT='-gl -O3p3' PP=ppc386 I got: Makefile:2261: *** No libgdb.a found, supply NOGDB=1 to disable debugger support. Stop. So I used: make all OPT='gl -O3p3' NOGDB=1 PP=ppc386 and I got this error and the compilation aborted: /home/giacca/programmi/fpc-2.3/fpcsrc/compiler/ppc386 -XX -CX -Ur -Xs -O2 -n -Fu/home/giacca/programmi/fpc-2.3/fpcsrc/rtl/units/i386-linux -Fisrc -FE. -FUunits/i386-linux gl -O3p3 -di386 -dRELEASE src/aspell.pp aspell.pp(1580,1) Error: Illegal expression aspell.pp(1580,10) Fatal: Syntax error, ; expected but identifier ASPELL_LOADED found Fatal: Compilation aborted You got a buggy version of the source snapshot. As you noticed (with fpc.zip), today's snapshot doesn't have it (also fixed in fpcbuild.zip). Vincent ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] intrepid and lazarus
Andrea Mauri schreef: Again, I got the previous error downloading fpcbuild.zip from http://www.freepascal.org/develop.var While using fpc.zip and running: make all OPT='gl -O3p3' PP=ppc386 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncurses fp.pas(566,1) Error: Error while linking fp.pas(566,1) Fatal: There were 1 errors compiling module, stopping See wiki: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Linker_message:_cannot_find_-l and FAQ: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_Faq#I_receive_an_error_during_the_linking_that_states_.2Fusr.2Fbin.2Fld_can.27t_find_-l.3Csome_lib.3E Vincent ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Getting started with WinCE/Windows Mobile
I'm a long term Delphi user but completely new to Lazarus/fpc. I'm looking at Lazarus as a means of programming a Windows Mobile Pocket PC in a language I already know. I found some information on installing a WinCE development system, and I understand I need the basic Windows Lazarus install plus an add-on install for WinCE. It was stated I had to have exactly the same fpc version for each of them. I have found and installed lazarus-0.9.26-fpc-2.2.2-win32.exe, but the only file I can locate for what I think is the WinCE add-on is lazarus-0.9.23-fpc-2.2.1-20070916-cross-arm-wince-win32.exe Can anybody advise me what I should install please? Many thanks in advance, Andy ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Getting started with WinCE/Windows Mobile
2008/11/1 Andy Lawrie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm a long term Delphi user but completely new to Lazarus/fpc. I'm looking at Lazarus as a means of programming a Windows Mobile Pocket PC in a language I already know. I found some information on installing a WinCE development system, and I understand I need the basic Windows Lazarus install plus an add-on install for WinCE. It was stated I had to have exactly the same fpc version for each of them. I have found and installed lazarus-0.9.26-fpc-2.2.2-win32.exe, but the only file I can locate for what I think is the WinCE add-on is lazarus-0.9.23-fpc-2.2.1-20070916-cross-arm-wince-win32.exe Can anybody advise me what I should install please? have a look at the snapshot page: http://www.hu.freepascal.org/lazarus/ henry ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Getting started with WinCE/Windows Mobile
Andy Lawrie schreef: I'm a long term Delphi user but completely new to Lazarus/fpc. I'm looking at Lazarus as a means of programming a Windows Mobile Pocket PC in a language I already know. I found some information on installing a WinCE development system, and I understand I need the basic Windows Lazarus install plus an add-on install for WinCE. It was stated I had to have exactly the same fpc version for each of them. I have found and installed lazarus-0.9.26-fpc-2.2.2-win32.exe, but the only file I can locate for what I think is the WinCE add-on is lazarus-0.9.23-fpc-2.2.1-20070916-cross-arm-wince-win32.exe Can anybody advise me what I should install please? From https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=89339package_id=105599release_id=631057 download http://downloads.sourceforge.net/lazarus/Lazarus-0.9.26-fpc-2.2.2-cross-arm-wince-win32.exe?use_mirror= Vincent ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Mac OS X : Certain properties not being persisted...
Thanks to who-ever fixed the ItemHeight problem. This is now working correctly with SVN 17166. Dominique. On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:53:33 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Within the Carbon IDE, I've noticed certain properties are not being persisted consistently. The first is the ItemHeight property of the TListBox. I've had to ammend the *.lfm file to make sure things work. Of course as soon as I change anything on the form, via the IDE, that value is lost and I need to add it in again into the lfm file manually. Secondly, is the ImageList property if your TImageList exists on another form. For example if my MainForm has a TreeView and and empty form has an image list that is shared across several other units. If I don't have the ImageList form open in the IDE, when I make a change to the MainForm, the TreeView's ImageList property get set to blank. If the ImageList form is open, then everything appears to work as advertised. Is anyone else seeing this? Let me know before I submit a bug report. Thanks, Dominique. ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] [OT] New free IDE from Trolltech
Graeme, Guess you didn't get the news about RemObjects and Codegear joining forces: http://bitwisemag.com/ Also, TrollTech (now owned by Nokia) has had Qt Designer for years for C++ developers working with Qt. Not sure what changes with Qt Creator (maybe just a new name?). Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Graeme Geldenhuys Sent: Sat 11/1/2008 2:50 AM To: General mailing list Subject: [Lazarus] [OT] New free IDE from Trolltech Has anybody seen this one...? http://trolltech.com/developer/qt-creator It seems CodeGear is getting stiff competition from all sides now! RemObjects took over the .NET side. Eclipse from the Java side. Free Pascal/Lazarus taking over the Delphi native side (my personal opinion). And now TrollTech wants to take over there C/C++ side. Poor company [CodeGear] must be pretty worried by now - their future seems more and more uncertain by the day. Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus winmail.dat___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Default caption in MessageDlg()
I cannot find the exact reason for the change. I have no objection to revert it. Vincent Since I had nothing better to do I submitted a patch in the bugtracker. Bart ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Getting started with WinCE/Windows Mobile
Many thanks for that Vincent, also to Henry. I downloaded it and started to install it, but it wasn't clear what I should have installed, and in what order. I found it a bit confusing because the new file said it was going to install Lazarus, so I thought I should stop and uninstall the existing Lazarus installation first. Then, then when I completed the install of the new file, Lazarus wasn't present, so I uninstalled it again, reinstalled the original and then installed this one again. After which I created a simple application, using LCL widget type wince (beta), Target OS WinCE and target cpu family arm. I'm pleased to say this compiled OK. I've now stalled on getting the emulator running - the links to MS in the documentation don't work. It may be overkill, but as I have an MSDN sub I installed VS2008 Pro, which includes the emulator. But I still haven't worked out how to start the emulator running the new app, but outside of VS2008. Rgds, Andy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vincent Snijders Sent: 01 November 2008 11:29 To: General mailing list Subject: Re: [Lazarus] Getting started with WinCE/Windows Mobile Andy Lawrie schreef: I'm a long term Delphi user but completely new to Lazarus/fpc. I'm looking at Lazarus as a means of programming a Windows Mobile Pocket PC in a language I already know. I found some information on installing a WinCE development system, and I understand I need the basic Windows Lazarus install plus an add-on install for WinCE. It was stated I had to have exactly the same fpc version for each of them. I have found and installed lazarus-0.9.26-fpc-2.2.2-win32.exe, but the only file I can locate for what I think is the WinCE add-on is lazarus-0.9.23-fpc-2.2.1-20070916-cross-arm-wince-win32.exe Can anybody advise me what I should install please? From https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=89339package_id=1055 99release_id=631057 download http://downloads.sourceforge.net/lazarus/Lazarus-0.9.26-fpc-2.2.2-cross-arm- wince-win32.exe?use_mirror= Vincent ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Lazarus in KUbuntu 8.10
Hello, I trying install both fpc and lazarus svn versions in KUbuntu 8.10 i386. I follow instructions http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus#Installing_Free_Pascal_under_Linux.2FBSD_manually: as $THEPREFIX using /usr, $ETCDIR = /etc, but in 6 step on ppc386 -i I still geting 2.2.2 version. Where is my mistake? -- Valdas Jankūnas ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Getting started with WinCE/Windows Mobile
Hello, Just follow carefully the step-by-step the instructions in the wiki: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Windows_CE_Interface#Using_the_stable_add-on_installer Since 0.9.26 we have a stable wince release with good quality, so I recommend that you use the stable add on installer. And here are the instructions to install the emulator: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Windows_CE_Interface#Installing_and_Using_the_Pocket_PC_Emulator What link didn't work from those instructions? -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] configure tools: show output of command
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:44:35 +0100 Marc Santhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, is it possible to open a window or source editor page showing the oputput of a system command in lazarus? E.g. I want to have a man page shown for a system function where the cursor is at or inside the name of this function like ($CurToken()). Can this be done by assembling a configuration item in the tools - Configure custom tools ...-menu? No. Opening a file can only be done via the IDEIntf. You must write an IDE plugin. This is simple. Mattias ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] [OT] New free IDE from Trolltech
2008/11/1 Hess, Philip J [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Guess you didn't get the news about RemObjects and Codegear joining forces: Yes I did, but from the accouncements, it was pretty clear to me that RemObjects are going to do most of the work. CodeGear will simply comment here and there. All CodeGear is doing with Delphi Prism is sponsor some dbExpress stuff, the rest is all pre-existing RemObjects (Chrome or Oxygen) work. Also, TrollTech (now owned by Nokia) has had Qt Designer for years for C++ developers working with Qt. Not sure what changes with Qt Creator (maybe just a new name?). Qt Designer is just a forms designer. Qt Creator is an IDE (forms designer, editor, debugger, help viewer etc...) Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus in KUbuntu 8.10
Valdas Jankūnas schreef: Hello, I trying install both fpc and lazarus svn versions in KUbuntu 8.10 i386. I follow instructions http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus#Installing_Free_Pascal_under_Linux.2FBSD_manually: as $THEPREFIX using /usr, $ETCDIR = /etc, but in 6 step on ppc386 -i I still geting 2.2.2 version. Where is my mistake? Can you check the symlink /usr/bin/ppc386? Does it point to the new compiler version? Vincent ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Getting started with WinCE/Windows Mobile
Hi Felipe, It was the links to MS that didn't work for me, so I couldn't download the emulator. That was when I tried installing VS2008, which has a later version of the emulator (v3), but having installed it I couldn't work out how to use that version from outside VS2008. But now the links from the web page work, I've downloaded and installed the emulator, and it all works fine, thanks. It looks like I was unlucky first time, maybe the MS site was unavailable for a few minutes just when I tried it. Out of interest, athough I installed the v1 emulator AFTER installing VS2008, when I click on the emulator image menu, the emulator that runs is v3 that was installd by VS2008. I'll go away and have a little play with it now, but first impressions are that it is very good indeed. Thanks for your assistance. Rgds, Andy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho Sent: 01 November 2008 20:17 To: General mailing list Subject: Re: [Lazarus] Getting started with WinCE/Windows Mobile Hello, Just follow carefully the step-by-step the instructions in the wiki: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Windows_CE_Interface#Using_the_stable_add -on_installer Since 0.9.26 we have a stable wince release with good quality, so I recommend that you use the stable add on installer. And here are the instructions to install the emulator: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Windows_CE_Interface#Installing_and_Using _the_Pocket_PC_Emulator What link didn't work from those instructions? -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] [OT] New free IDE from Trolltech
I think it's very interresting how things turned out. Trolltech started as a very small company, like 2 guys in a garage, and they started developing their UNIX GUI library, a very small niche market. At this time, Borland was huge, with their Windows GUI library + IDE + Toolchain, and hat a large market, was one of the most important player in the software development area. A lot of people said in the borland newsgroups: support Mac OS X, support Linux, go Unicode, go 64-bits, etc. But they never listened, instead they went .NET, feeding the competition and stoping in time. After a huge delay they finally went unicode. Trolltech on the other hand went cross-platform, and walked their way up with a very good quality product. So now, the way I see it, things are inverted. Delphi is a small niche player with little future ahead of it, while Trolltech seams much more important, and is even active in the smartphone and PDA areas, with their own frame buffer library and also support for Windows CE coming soon. I don't have their profits and market value, but I wouldn't be surprised if Trolltech is much ahead of CodeGear nowadaws. It seams that the crowd saying that cross-platform is important was correct. Luckly there is Free Pascal and Lazarus, so people with Object Pascal code bases don't need to sink with the Delphi boat. -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Getting started with WinCE/Windows Mobile
Andy Lawrie wrote: I'll go away and have a little play with it now, but first impressions are that it is very good indeed. From a long-time Delphi user like you that's praise indeed :-) It would be nice if we could persuade Dave Jewell to take another look- I think last time he tried it on a Mac and got bogged down with an external debugger. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus in KUbuntu 8.10
Vincent Snijders rašė: Valdas Jankūnas schreef: Hello, I trying install both fpc and lazarus svn versions in KUbuntu 8.10 i386. I follow instructions http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus#Installing_Free_Pascal_under_Linux.2FBSD_manually: as $THEPREFIX using /usr, $ETCDIR = /etc, but in 6 step on ppc386 -i I still geting 2.2.2 version. Where is my mistake? Can you check the symlink /usr/bin/ppc386? Does it point to the new compiler version? I followed instructions blindly, now I found where I did mistake: 2.2.2 need replace to 2.3.1. Now all is OK. Thanks for help -- Valdas Jankūnas ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] [OT] New free IDE from Trolltech
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's very interresting how things turned out. Trolltech started as a very small company, like 2 guys in a garage, and they started developing their UNIX GUI library, a very small niche market. Yeah, I read the history of Trolltech company some time back. Their wives supported them for the first year while they just did coding on Qt. :-) My wife's not falling for that one! :-( A lot of people said in the borland newsgroups: support Mac OS X, support Linux, go Unicode, go 64-bits, etc. But they never listened, instead they went .NET, feeding the competition and stoping in time. A classic case of following the hype and marketing bull***t of other companies. And not listening to what there real customers (developers) actually want. Trolltech on the other hand went cross-platform, and walked their way up with a very good quality product. I must say, I am truly impressed with the Qt product. It's just amazing what Trolltech has achieved and at the speed that they are doing it. Luckly there is Free Pascal and Lazarus, so people with Object Pascal code bases don't need to sink with the Delphi boat. Oh so true! I love the FPC/Lazarus community and the Object Pascal language. As much as I like the idea of what Qt has become and achieved, there is no way I am switching to C/C++ language and also not at a $5000 per developer license. Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] [OT] New free IDE from Trolltech
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: I must say, I am truly impressed with the Qt product. It's just amazing what Trolltech has achieved and at the speed that they are doing it. I think Qt's dual license says that you have to give copyrights to Trolltech if you want your modifications to be merged back to the Qt codebase. So basically anyone who worked on Qt to improve KDE or his own application also helped Trolltech. Kostas Bad Sector Michalopoulos ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lazarus.freepascal.org http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
