[Lazarus] FYI: qt is going to be LGPL

2009-02-08 Thread SonWol
Good Day.

Share code. Very interesting development Lazarus in this direction.

Sincerely Kasikhin Veaceslav.
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Re: [Lazarus] FYI: qt is going to be LGPL

2009-02-08 Thread Osvaldo T Crispim Filho
Link download: 

http://www.qtsoftware.com/developer/preview-qt-4.5#download-the-beta

Em Dom, 2009-02-08 às 13:00 +0300, son...@yandex.ru escreveu:
 Good Day.
 
 Share code. Very interesting development Lazarus in this direction.
 
 Sincerely Kasikhin Veaceslav.
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Re: [Lazarus] FYI: qt is going to be LGPL

2009-01-15 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:38 AM, Den Jean den.j...@telenet.be wrote:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebKit

I see. I for one think it would be an excelent addition!

One problem, however, is that all apps would require WebKit, even
those that don't use it...

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[Lazarus] FYI: qt is going to be LGPL

2009-01-14 Thread Luca Olivetti
You probably already know this, anyway I thing is good news for the qt 
lazarus port.

Qt 4.5 is going to be released under the LGPL instead of the GPL:
http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/lgpl-license-option-added-to-qt

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Re: [Lazarus] FYI: qt is going to be LGPL

2009-01-14 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
This is just fantastic. It really adds a lot of value to the
lazarus-qt interface.

And even more, it becomes a viable substitute for the gtk2 interface
in UNIXes. The only problem being that Qt 4.5 would be required, which
means that at the moment no distribution supports it out of the box.

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Re: [Lazarus] FYI: qt is going to be LGPL

2009-01-14 Thread zeljko
On Wednesday 14 January 2009 11:47, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
 This is just fantastic. It really adds a lot of value to the
 lazarus-qt interface.

 And even more, it becomes a viable substitute for the gtk2 interface
 in UNIXes. The only problem being that Qt 4.5 would be required, which
 means that at the moment no distribution supports it out of the box.

But it will not be inside LCLQt until 4.5.1 release (so it's at least 4-6 
months from now on).
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Re: [Lazarus] FYI: qt is going to be LGPL

2009-01-14 Thread zeljko
On Wednesday 14 January 2009 11:19, Luca Olivetti wrote:
 You probably already know this, anyway I thing is good news for the qt
 lazarus port.

 Qt 4.5 is going to be released under the LGPL instead of the GPL:
 http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/lgpl-license-option-added-to-qt

AFAIK , it will not be replacement for GPL. I got mail from nokia this 
morning:
 Dear Qt User:

Nokia is pleased to announce that with the release of Qt 4.5 you will
be able to use Qt under the Lesser General Public License (LGPL)
version 2.1 terms. When released in March 2009, Qt will be made
available under three licensing options: Commercial, LGPL and GPL.
Prior versions of Qt are not impacted by this announcement.

It says 3 licencing options.

zeljko
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Re: [Lazarus] FYI: qt is going to be LGPL

2009-01-14 Thread Eugen Bolz
zeljko schrieb:
 AFAIK , it will not be replacement for GPL. I got mail from nokia this 
 morning:
  Dear Qt User:

 Nokia is pleased to announce that with the release of Qt 4.5 you will
 be able to use Qt under the Lesser General Public License (LGPL)
 version 2.1 terms. When released in March 2009, Qt will be made
 available under three licensing options: Commercial, LGPL and GPL.
 Prior versions of Qt are not impacted by this announcement.

 It says 3 licencing options.

 zeljko
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Is it possible to create Freeware , non Open-Source, Applications? Or
only Open-Source and Commercial?

Best Regards,
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Re: [Lazarus] FYI: qt is going to be LGPL

2009-01-14 Thread Michael Van Canneyt


On Wed, 14 Jan 2009, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:

 This is just fantastic. It really adds a lot of value to the
 lazarus-qt interface.
 
 And even more, it becomes a viable substitute for the gtk2 interface
 in UNIXes. The only problem being that Qt 4.5 would be required, which
 means that at the moment no distribution supports it out of the box.

Why such strict requirement for the version ? 

This says to me that as soon as a system updates to Qt 4.6 all is possibly
broken ? That seems like a very bad situation, which IMHO should be solved 
rather quickly, because it severely limits the usefullness of the Qt
interface.

The GTK interface works on a relatively wide range of GTK 2 versions,
which is a good thing.

Michael.
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Re: [Lazarus] FYI: qt is going to be LGPL

2009-01-14 Thread Vincent Snijders
2009/1/14 Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org:


 On Wed, 14 Jan 2009, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:

 This is just fantastic. It really adds a lot of value to the
 lazarus-qt interface.

 And even more, it becomes a viable substitute for the gtk2 interface
 in UNIXes. The only problem being that Qt 4.5 would be required, which
 means that at the moment no distribution supports it out of the box.

 Why such strict requirement for the version ?

 This says to me that as soon as a system updates to Qt 4.6 all is possibly
 broken ? That seems like a very bad situation, which IMHO should be solved
 rather quickly, because it severely limits the usefullness of the Qt
 interface.

Maybe Felipe means Qt 4.5 and higher.

Vincent
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Re: [Lazarus] FYI: qt is going to be LGPL

2009-01-14 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na zeljko ha escrit:
 On Wednesday 14 January 2009 11:19, Luca Olivetti wrote:
 You probably already know this, anyway I thing is good news for the qt
 lazarus port.

 Qt 4.5 is going to be released under the LGPL instead of the GPL:
 http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/lgpl-license-option-added-to-qt
 
 AFAIK , it will not be replacement for GPL. I got mail from nokia this 
 morning:
  Dear Qt User:
 
 Nokia is pleased to announce that with the release of Qt 4.5 you will
 be able to use Qt under the Lesser General Public License (LGPL)
 version 2.1 terms. When released in March 2009, Qt will be made
 available under three licensing options: Commercial, LGPL and GPL.
 Prior versions of Qt are not impacted by this announcement.
 
 It says 3 licencing options.

Ok, my bad, it's not /replacing/ the GPL, but offering you the 
/additional/ option of using it under the LGPL.
IANAL but I think that the end result is the same: you will be able to 
use qt4.5 for gpl programs *and* for closed program.
Just like gtk.

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/lgpl-2.1.html

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Re: [Lazarus] FYI: qt is going to be LGPL

2009-01-14 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Eugen Bolz ha escrit:

 
 Is it possible to create Freeware , non Open-Source, Applications? Or
 only Open-Source and Commercial?

IANAL but, yes, it will be possible starting with qt4.5, since the LGPL 
allows that.
With the current version you have to buy a commercial license if your 
application is not GPL.

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Re: [Lazarus] FYI: qt is going to be LGPL

2009-01-14 Thread Eugen Bolz
Luca Olivetti schrieb:
 En/na Eugen Bolz ha escrit:

   
 Is it possible to create Freeware , non Open-Source, Applications? Or
 only Open-Source and Commercial?
 

 IANAL but, yes, it will be possible starting with qt4.5, since the LGPL 
 allows that.
 With the current version you have to buy a commercial license if your 
 application is not GPL.

 Bye
   
Okay, i ll wait until this Version is out, and maybe starting then with
Qt, thanks :)

Btw, what means IANAL ?
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Re: [Lazarus] FYI: qt is going to be LGPL

2009-01-14 Thread bobby




Eugen Bolz wrote:

  Luca Olivetti schrieb:
  
  
En/na Eugen Bolz ha escrit:

  


  Is it possible to create Freeware , non Open-Source, Applications? Or
only Open-Source and Commercial?

  

IANAL but, yes, it will be possible starting with qt4.5, since the LGPL 
allows that.
With the current version you have to buy a commercial license if your 
application is not GPL.

Bye
  

  
  Okay, i ll wait until this Version is out, and maybe starting then with
Qt, thanks :)

Btw, what means IANAL ?
  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IANAL


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Re: [Lazarus] FYI: qt is going to be LGPL

2009-01-14 Thread Den Jean
On Wednesday 14 January 2009 11:47:39 Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
 This is just fantastic. It really adds a lot of value to the
 lazarus-qt interface.

Furthermore it may soon be possible to use webkit with lazarus/qt:

First draft test: Lazarus demo program with Qt Webkit Widget. 

http://users.telenet.be/Jan.Van.hijfte/qtforfpc/lazarus_webkit.png

Is someone interested in webkit ?

regards,

Den Jean


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Re: [Lazarus] FYI: qt is going to be LGPL

2009-01-14 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Den Jean den.j...@telenet.be wrote:
 Is someone interested in webkit ?

What does it do? Shows html pages?

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Re: [Lazarus] FYI: qt is going to be LGPL

2009-01-14 Thread Den Jean
On Wednesday 14 January 2009 23:20:31 Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
 What does it do? Shows html pages?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebKit

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