Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus 2.0.6 IDE suddenly disappeared losing a lot of edits...

2019-11-23 Thread Martin Frb via lazarus
On 24/11/2019 01:30, Bo Berglund via lazarus wrote: And I have been bitten several times the last days by the suddenly disappearing Lazarus application If you can Run your Lazarus in gdb.    gdb path/to/lazarus and then in gdb hit r and return. I know you want to get away from more

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus 2.0.6 IDE suddenly disappeared losing a lot of edits...

2019-11-23 Thread Bo Berglund via lazarus
On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 15:37:23 +0100, Martin Frb via lazarus wrote: >On 02/11/2019 14:48, Bo Berglund via lazarus wrote: >> >> Now it happened again! >> I was compiling the program then executing it inside a terminal >> (external to Lazarus) and then repeating this to find my bug. >> >> When I

Re: [Lazarus] Cross-compile for Linux strange behaviour with floating point constants

2019-11-23 Thread Giuliano Colla via lazarus
Il 20/11/2019 19:19, R Smith via lazarus ha scritto: The problem I've run into is a simple program (made in Lazarus) where I use floating point constants. It compiles and runs perfectly on Windows, but when cross-compiling for Linux, it fails for specific floating point values. I realise

Re: [Lazarus] Cross-compile for Linux strange behaviour with floating point constants

2019-11-23 Thread Sven Barth via lazarus
Am 20.11.2019 um 19:19 schrieb R Smith via lazarus: Is there something I can check on my side? Does this work for others? Might this be a cross-compile bug of sorts?  Is this some FPC, FPU or Linux peculiarity I'm not aware of? Win64 is essentially the only x86 platform that does *not* support

Re: [Lazarus] The future of the Lazarus IDE

2019-11-23 Thread Martin Frb via lazarus
On 24/11/2019 00:41, Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus wrote: On Sun, 24 Nov 2019, Werner Pamler via lazarus wrote: Once having voted the current results are displayed. But when I want to see later how the poll has evolved I can only vote again -- that's probably not what you intend. Either add

Re: [Lazarus] The future of the Lazarus IDE

2019-11-23 Thread Daithi Haxton via lazarus
For my 2 cents, keep Lazarus as an independent, native code IDE. We do instrumentation packages for manufacturing robots, and “the Web” is simply not an option. Laz makes us at least 10x more productive than any other option (and we’ve tried other options - we still maintain code in C++ and C#

Re: [Lazarus] The future of the Lazarus IDE

2019-11-23 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus
On Sun, 24 Nov 2019, Werner Pamler via lazarus wrote: Once having voted the current results are displayed. But when I want to see later how the poll has evolved I can only vote again -- that's probably not what you intend. Either add a button to display the current results, or don't display

Re: [Lazarus] The future of the Lazarus IDE

2019-11-23 Thread Luca Olivetti via lazarus
El 23/11/19 a les 23:58, Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus ha escrit: On Sat, 23 Nov 2019, Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus wrote: On Sat, 23 Nov 2019, Werner Pamler via lazarus wrote: I am missing the option "No change wanted towards this direction". Without this option the poll is biased.

Re: [Lazarus] The future of the Lazarus IDE

2019-11-23 Thread Werner Pamler via lazarus
Once having voted the current results are displayed. But when I want to see later how the poll has evolved I can only vote again -- that's probably not what you intend. Either add a button to display the current results, or don't display results at all until the poll has ended. --

Re: [Lazarus] The future of the Lazarus IDE

2019-11-23 Thread Florian Klämpfl via lazarus
Am 24.11.19 um 00:02 schrieb Ryan Joseph via lazarus: On Nov 23, 2019, at 5:43 PM, Ralf Quint via lazarus wrote: I personally loath VSCode just as much as VS itself (or XCode, for that matter) or Eclipse. The appeal of Lazarus for me is that it even "feels" Pascal, not just a tool that

Re: [Lazarus] The future of the Lazarus IDE

2019-11-23 Thread Ryan Joseph via lazarus
> On Nov 23, 2019, at 5:43 PM, Ralf Quint via lazarus > wrote: > > I personally loath VSCode just as much as VS itself (or XCode, for that > matter) or Eclipse. The appeal of Lazarus for me is that it even "feels" > Pascal, not just a tool that happens to support ObjectPascal, but just as a

Re: [Lazarus] The future of the Lazarus IDE

2019-11-23 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus
On Sat, 23 Nov 2019, Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus wrote: On Sat, 23 Nov 2019, Werner Pamler via lazarus wrote: I am missing the option "No change wanted towards this direction". Without this option the poll is biased. That is the first option: Remain an independent IDE. Having an

Re: [Lazarus] The future of the Lazarus IDE

2019-11-23 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus
On Sat, 23 Nov 2019, Ryan Joseph via lazarus wrote: On Nov 23, 2019, at 5:26 PM, Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus wrote: The IDE. That implies the API/Widgets. One of the reasons like Lazarus is because it's native right? I use VSCode for the debugger but I don't like it's a slow and

Re: [Lazarus] The future of the Lazarus IDE

2019-11-23 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus
On Sat, 23 Nov 2019, Werner Pamler via lazarus wrote: I am missing the option "No change wanted towards this direction". Without this option the poll is biased. That is the first option: Remain an independent IDE. Having an optional way to edit HTML in a rad way would simply be a plugin.

Re: [Lazarus] The future of the Lazarus IDE

2019-11-23 Thread duilio foschi via lazarus
> I am missing the option "No change wanted towards this direction". > Without this option the poll is biased. this is my humble opinion, too -- ___ lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] The future of the Lazarus IDE

2019-11-23 Thread Werner Pamler via lazarus
I am missing the option "No change wanted towards this direction". Without this option the poll is biased. -- ___ lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] The future of the Lazarus IDE

2019-11-23 Thread Ralf Quint via lazarus
Well, for me, "the web" is not a viable (sole) option. I still have a lot of use cases where standalone apps on various platforms are a much better option. Trying to shoehorn a web based app on each and every use case just doesn't make sense. Yes, Lazarus isn't "perfect", but for the most

Re: [Lazarus] The future of the Lazarus IDE

2019-11-23 Thread Ryan Joseph via lazarus
> On Nov 23, 2019, at 5:26 PM, Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus > wrote: > > The IDE. That implies the API/Widgets. One of the reasons like Lazarus is because it's native right? I use VSCode for the debugger but I don't like it's a slow and mushy feeling web app. Native is not compatible

Re: [Lazarus] The future of the Lazarus IDE

2019-11-23 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus
On Sat, 23 Nov 2019, Ryan Joseph via lazarus wrote: On Nov 23, 2019, at 5:12 AM, Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus wrote: This will mean that soon, you'll be able to do full stack development in VS Code using object pascal. (or any other language, since VS Code is language agnostic)

Re: [Lazarus] The future of the Lazarus IDE

2019-11-23 Thread Ryan Joseph via lazarus
> On Nov 23, 2019, at 5:12 AM, Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus > wrote: > > This will mean that soon, you'll be able to do full stack development in VS > Code using object pascal. (or any other language, since VS Code is language > agnostic) > > This has raised the question whether a

[Lazarus] How to deploy fpc/lazarus programs on Linux?

2019-11-23 Thread Bo Berglund via lazarus
Posting again since I think that by selection of subject was not wise the fisrt time, using words that might trigger scanners... My post did not come through. Anyway: I am wondering how exactly I should package the program I am developing for Raspberry Pi so it can be uniformly installed and

[Lazarus] The future of the Lazarus IDE

2019-11-23 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus
Hello, I would like to announce a small poll. Context: Web (runtime) applications are abundant. At my company, desktop is only considered as a last resource (but use cases vary, obviously). Today, you perfectly can program the web (browser) using FPC's pas2js. Using pas2js it is also

[Lazarus] Cross-compile for Linux strange behaviour with floating point constants

2019-11-23 Thread R Smith via lazarus
Hi All, I'm a long time Lazarus user (since Kylix failed) and a big fan. This is however my first post on any FPC/Lazarus forum. The problem I've run into is a simple program (made in Lazarus) where I use floating point constants. It compiles and runs perfectly on Windows, but when

[Lazarus] Installer/uninstaller on Linux for fpc/lazarus programs?

2019-11-23 Thread Bo Berglund via lazarus
I am wondering how exactly I should package the program I am developing for Raspberry Pi so it can be uniformly installed and uninstalled on new RPi units... It is an Arm binary for RPi3 or Rpi4 type units running Raspbian Buster. So I could stuff the binary into /usr/bin I suppose, but it also