Re: [Lazarus] The Problem with the Linux Desktop

2020-03-31 Thread Kostas Michalopoulos via lazarus
IMO the problem of Linux desktop (or at least "a" problem) is the lack of backwards compatibility for pretty much anything above the X server (and now with Wayland some people want to compromise that too). If you stick with the X libraries, the C library (glibc is generally very good when it comes

Re: [Lazarus] The Problem with the Linux Desktop

2020-03-29 Thread Anthony Walter via lazarus
Teresa, thank you for your considered opinion. I agree with most of what you said, but with regards to the option of moving back to Windows, for me that is a non starter. I don't use Linux rather than Window because of some technical benefit. The primary reason I use Linux because I don't want to

Re: [Lazarus] The Problem with the Linux Desktop

2020-03-29 Thread Sven Barth via lazarus
leledumbo via lazarus schrieb am So., 29. März 2020, 05:48: > > The model to download applications and install on a random distro+version > simply doesn't exist on Linux. > > Snap, AppImage, Flatpak are purposely targeting this. It's partially > successful, but as with many things in Linux,

Re: [Lazarus] The Problem with the Linux Desktop

2020-03-28 Thread leledumbo via lazarus
> The model to download applications and install on a random distro+version simply doesn't exist on Linux. Snap, AppImage, Flatpak are purposely targeting this. It's partially successful, but as with many things in Linux, they're competing instead of working together. -- Sent from:

Re: [Lazarus] The Problem with the Linux Desktop

2020-03-28 Thread Teresa Williams via lazarus
2020 at 9:08 PM From: "Anthony Walter via lazarus" To: "Lazarus mailing list" Cc: "Anthony Walter" Subject: [Lazarus] The Problem with the Linux Desktop On Linux ...   I was looking at the Unity tray icon code I submitted a while back and it had stopped worki

Re: [Lazarus] The Problem with the Linux Desktop

2020-03-27 Thread Anthony Walter via lazarus
Juha, I saw someone had had modifications and unfortunately it caused the appindicator to stop working on my desktop. I rolled back the version to my last check in and it worked again. I also found that on the Cinnamon desktop you can add a systray applet and the old Gtk2 style tray icons work,

Re: [Lazarus] The Problem with the Linux Desktop

2020-03-27 Thread Juha Manninen via lazarus
On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 10:09 AM Anthony Walter via lazarus < lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org> wrote: > I was looking at the Unity tray icon code I submitted a while back and it > had stopped working on my desktop environment. > David Bannon, forum name dbannon, made a version for GTK3 based on

Re: [Lazarus] The Problem with the Linux Desktop

2020-03-27 Thread Marco van de Voort via lazarus
Op 2020-03-27 om 10:52 schreef Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus: I didn't mean to imply such a conclusion. I just observe it and think it is simply a fact. If it hasn't changed in 20+ years, I doubt it ever will. Good, then we agree, and I wouldn't hold my breath while waiting this to

Re: [Lazarus] The Problem with the Linux Desktop

2020-03-27 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus
On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, Anthony Walter wrote: Michael, I've been using the Linux desktop as my primary OS since 2006. I had dabbled in in before, but typically went back to windows when my networking had troubles. That said, I want Linux to be better. Yes I understand your points, but please

Re: [Lazarus] The Problem with the Linux Desktop

2020-03-27 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus
On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, Marco van de Voort via lazarus wrote: If you don't like that, stay away from Linux desktop. While I largely agree, this reply simply assumes that the culture of laisez faire and low backwards compatibility is an universal open source trait. While that is a common

Re: [Lazarus] The Problem with the Linux Desktop

2020-03-27 Thread Anthony Walter via lazarus
Michael, I've been using the Linux desktop as my primary OS since 2006. I had dabbled in in before, but typically went back to windows when my networking had troubles. That said, I want Linux to be better. Yes I understand your points, but please understand even when you choose an environment

Re: [Lazarus] The Problem with the Linux Desktop

2020-03-27 Thread Marco van de Voort via lazarus
Op 2020-03-27 om 09:27 schreef Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus: This is an age-old discussion. Echo of the late 90-ies last century. You're reasoning windows centric, where everything is centrally controlled. (same for Mac) This gives a certain amount of stability, but you are at the

Re: [Lazarus] The Problem with the Linux Desktop

2020-03-27 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus
On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, Anthony Walter via lazarus wrote: On Linux ... I was looking at the Unity tray icon code I submitted a while back and it had stopped working on my desktop environment. I was also looking for a way to track user log off events, monitor clipboard history, and how to

[Lazarus] The Problem with the Linux Desktop

2020-03-27 Thread Anthony Walter via lazarus
On Linux ... I was looking at the Unity tray icon code I submitted a while back and it had stopped working on my desktop environment. I was also looking for a way to track user log off events, monitor clipboard history, and how to register a global hot key. The sheer scattering of different