Re: [Lazarus] Building a C (or possibly C++) program into a Lazarus app

2018-08-12 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd via Lazarus

On 12/08/18 20:00, leledumbo via Lazarus wrote:

what's the current situation and future plans of > Lazarus as far as Android is 
concerned? I see mention of Laz4Android in > e.g. 
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Android_tutorial : is that > mainstream or is 
there some other preferred solution?

Laz4Android is just a prepackaged Lazarus  + FPC + Android NDK. You cancreate 
Android apps using Custom Drawn Interface, but it's very incompleteand 
non-native. I don't see any better way than LAMW right now, at leastit's 
maintained, progressing, user requests are handled (quite fast), rathercomplete 
(just look at the demos, I don't think you need more than alreadyprovided 
components for most apps) and use native look and feel.


TFT, I'll investigate.

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Re: [Lazarus] Building a C (or possibly C++) program into a Lazarus app

2018-08-12 Thread leledumbo via Lazarus
> what's the current situation and future plans of 
> Lazarus as far as Android is concerned? I see mention of Laz4Android in 
> e.g. http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Android_tutorial : is that 
> mainstream or is there some other preferred solution?

Laz4Android is just a prepackaged Lazarus  + FPC + Android NDK. You can
create Android apps using Custom Drawn Interface, but it's very incomplete
and non-native. I don't see any better way than LAMW right now, at least
it's maintained, progressing, user requests are handled (quite fast), rather
complete (just look at the demos, I don't think you need more than already
provided components for most apps) and use native look and feel.



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Re: [Lazarus] Building a C (or possibly C++) program into a Lazarus app

2018-08-10 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd via Lazarus

On 10/08/18 20:45, leledumbo via Lazarus wrote:

I find myself wondering whether > they could be given a more friendly frontend by 
wrapping them in a > Lazarus app, with an on-screen keyboard similar to what's found 
on a > tablet etc.

Sounds like my non-web hobby projects with Lazarus.

Is it possible to link a C or possibly C++ program into a Lazarus one by > 
simply calling its main() function? Has anybody actually done this?

I don't do that, though. Even if technically possible, there are hiddenstuffs 
you have to be aware of. main() is only a specification in Cstandard, where the 
user code starts. However, long before that, there's astartup mechanism 
specific to each implementation. In GCC, this is _start,absolutely 
non-portable. That's why the IMO better way is to communicateover pipes via 
TProcess.


Thanks for that. The program I'm thinking about is actually pretty 
simple and ancient- written by Ken Thompson- so I might be in with a chance.


What I'd /really/ like to do is port it- complete with UI helper- to 
Android. However at that point I have to add my voice to Bo's plea of a 
couple of weeks ago: what's the current situation and future plans of 
Lazarus as far as Android is concerned? I see mention of Laz4Android in 
e.g. http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Android_tutorial : is that 
mainstream or is there some other preferred solution?


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Re: [Lazarus] Building a C (or possibly C++) program into a Lazarus app

2018-08-10 Thread leledumbo via Lazarus
> I find myself wondering whether 
> they could be given a more friendly frontend by wrapping them in a 
> Lazarus app, with an on-screen keyboard similar to what's found on a 
> tablet etc.

Sounds like my non-web hobby projects with Lazarus.

> Is it possible to link a C or possibly C++ program into a Lazarus one by 
> simply calling its main() function? Has anybody actually done this?

I don't do that, though. Even if technically possible, there are hidden
stuffs you have to be aware of. main() is only a specification in C
standard, where the user code starts. However, long before that, there's a
startup mechanism specific to each implementation. In GCC, this is _start,
absolutely non-portable. That's why the IMO better way is to communicate
over pipes via TProcess.



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Re: [Lazarus] Building a C (or possibly C++) program into a Lazarus app

2018-08-10 Thread R0b0t1 via Lazarus
I have some posts on the forum asking about similar questions. I was
told FPC object files will link just fine with GNU tools, so you
should be able to.

To me it seemed it would be easier to keep the codebase in C++ but
then call into the LCL. Sadly that is quite a bit off.

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd via Lazarus
 wrote:
> Is it possible to link a C or possibly C++ program into a Lazarus one by
> simply calling its main() function? Has anybody actually done this?
>
> I've got a couple of C/C++ programs which are based on stdin/stdout user
> interaction (no curses etc.) but have thoroughly unpleasant keyboard
> requirements and odd output encoding. I find myself wondering whether they
> could be given a more friendly frontend by wrapping them in a Lazarus app,
> with an on-screen keyboard similar to what's found on a tablet etc.
>
> I would, obviously, be able to rename main() if necessary, as well as I/O
> functions.
>
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[Lazarus] Building a C (or possibly C++) program into a Lazarus app

2018-08-10 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd via Lazarus
Is it possible to link a C or possibly C++ program into a Lazarus one by 
simply calling its main() function? Has anybody actually done this?


I've got a couple of C/C++ programs which are based on stdin/stdout user 
interaction (no curses etc.) but have thoroughly unpleasant keyboard 
requirements and odd output encoding. I find myself wondering whether 
they could be given a more friendly frontend by wrapping them in a 
Lazarus app, with an on-screen keyboard similar to what's found on a 
tablet etc.


I would, obviously, be able to rename main() if necessary, as well as 
I/O functions.


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