Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-31 Thread Bernd Kreuss
Am 28.07.2010 15:28, schrieb Martin: MacOSX license only allows to run the OS on Apple hardware. So even if you own an original MacOsX Please don't use the term illegal in such an inflationary manner. What is illegal is defined by the laws and by nothing else. It does not matter what

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-31 Thread Martin
On 31/07/2010 10:37, Bernd Kreuss wrote: Am 28.07.2010 15:28, schrieb Martin: MacOSX license only allows to run the OS on Apple hardware. So even if you own an original MacOsX Please don't use the term illegal in such an inflationary manner. What is illegal is defined by the laws and by

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-31 Thread Martin
Somehow the quoting messed up On 31/07/2010 12:44, Martin wrote: On 31/07/2010 10:37, Bernd Kreuss wrote: Please don't use the term illegal in such an inflationary manner. What is illegal is defined by the laws and by nothing else. Let me put the full context of my statement back: I am

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-31 Thread Bernd Kreuss
On 31.07.2010 13:53, Martin wrote: What is inflationary about this? Maybe I overreacted a bit. I just recently had a heated discussion about a very similar topic and it seems many people in general (not necessarily you) tend to simply accept certain concepts as normal that would have been

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-31 Thread Bernd Kreuss
On 31.07.2010 13:44, Martin wrote: - using a software without license (and I doubt you get a license for IDeneb) is probably not legal anywhere on this world Ok, I looked at their website and they seem to distribute the whole OSX, I initially thought it was just a patch for an existing copy

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-31 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Bernd Kreuss schrieb: On 31.07.2010 13:44, Martin wrote: As far as German law is involved... - using a software without license (and I doubt you get a license for IDeneb) is probably not legal anywhere on this world Ok, I looked at their website and they seem to distribute the whole OSX,

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-28 Thread Juha Manninen
2010/7/28 dmitry boyarintsev skalogryz.li...@gmail.com One more note about Installation: Did you use the page http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus_on_MacOS_X ? Yes I looked at it. I guess the problem was still in Apple devel tools installation. I've also managed to install iDeneb

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-28 Thread Martin
On 28/07/2010 14:21, Juha Manninen wrote: 2010/7/28 dmitry boyarintsev skalogryz.li...@gmail.com mailto:skalogryz.li...@gmail.com One more note about Installation: Did you use the page http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus_on_MacOS_X ? Yes I looked at it. I guess the

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-28 Thread Juha Manninen
Hi Of course this can be tricky to explain to someone who has no idea of terminal. Maybe you want to try teamviewer. How come I didn't know about this TeamViewer before? Has it just recently become free for personal use? It has an installation system which could work as an example when

[Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-27 Thread Juha Manninen
Hi I have just witnessed how difficult installing Lazarus on Apple Mac can be, although I think the same applies to other operating systems, too. I made a program for my friend using Lazarus. He has a modern Mac but he mostly just browses Internet and writes e-mails and talks with Skype and

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-27 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I have just witnessed how difficult installing Lazarus on Apple Mac can be, although I think the same applies to other operating systems, too. I made a program for my friend using Lazarus. He has a modern Mac

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-27 Thread dmitry boyarintsev
So far, i'm not aware of anyone ever made cross-compiler for OSX. However, since all build-tools are open source, it should be possible. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net wrote: Me and Marcos Douglas have recently improved the installation wiki pages a little but

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-27 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:16 AM, dmitry boyarintsev skalogryz.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net wrote: Me and Marcos Douglas have recently improved the installation wiki pages a little but that is not enough. ...and we will improved even

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-27 Thread Juha Manninen
dmitry boyarintsev kirjoitti tiistai, 27. heinäkuuta 2010 17:16:34: So far, i'm not aware of anyone ever made cross-compiler for OSX. However, since all build-tools are open source, it should be possible. I am not going to try that. Instead I could help my friend's installation again after we

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-27 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com wrote: dmitry boyarintsev kirjoitti tiistai, 27. heinäkuuta 2010 17:16:34: So far, i'm not aware of anyone ever made cross-compiler for OSX. However, since all build-tools are open source, it should be possible. I am

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-27 Thread Juha Manninen
Marcos Douglas kirjoitti tiistai, 27. heinäkuuta 2010 17:47:24: Try install just FPC, not Lazarus, and use the shell to compile. We tried the shell but FPC gave errors, maybe due to non-installed Apple Developer tools. Lazarus was this time the only thing that worked. :-) Do you think my

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-27 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:41:53 +0300 Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com wrote: dmitry boyarintsev kirjoitti tiistai, 27. heinäkuuta 2010 17:16:34: So far, i'm not aware of anyone ever made cross-compiler for OSX. However, since all build-tools are open source, it should be possible. I

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-27 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:56:21 +0300 Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com wrote: Marcos Douglas kirjoitti tiistai, 27. heinäkuuta 2010 17:47:24: Try install just FPC, not Lazarus, and use the shell to compile. We tried the shell but FPC gave errors, maybe due to non-installed Apple

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-27 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote: On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:56:21 +0300 Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com wrote: Marcos Douglas kirjoitti tiistai, 27. heinäkuuta 2010 17:47:24: Try install just FPC, not Lazarus, and use the shell to

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-27 Thread Juha Manninen
Mattias Gaertner kirjoitti tiistai, 27. heinäkuuta 2010 17:59:01: You may try: 1. install the developer tools from dvd 2. install fpc dmg 3. download lazarus svn and run make Of course this can be tricky to explain to someone who has no idea of terminal. Maybe you want to try teamviewer.

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-27 Thread shoKwave
On 27.07.2010 18:23, Juha Manninen wrote: So it really requires a DVD? No download option? DVD is easiest I think. You can try to download from apple homepage (http://developer.apple.com/technologies/xcode.html), but you'll have to register first. Also you need the right version. IIRC 3.1 for

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-27 Thread Žilvinas Ledas
When I installed Lazarus on osx few weeks ago I didin't know that I need to have dev tools installed but while installing FPC there was a message that I need dev tools so I just went to apple website, registered as developer and downloaded dev tools :) I think it is the problem with non

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-27 Thread Cox, Stuart TRAN:EX
f: 250-828-4229 stuart@gov.bc.ca -Original Message- From: Juha Manninen [mailto:juha.mannine...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:50 AM To: lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org Subject: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts Hi I have just witnessed how

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-27 Thread Juha Manninen
Žilvinas Ledas kirjoitti tiistai, 27. heinäkuuta 2010 21:15:47: When I installed Lazarus on osx few weeks ago I didin't know that I need to have dev tools installed but while installing FPC there was a message that I need dev tools so I just went to apple website, registered as developer and

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus installation on Mac plus other thoughts

2010-07-27 Thread dmitry boyarintsev
One more note about Installation: Did you use the page http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus_on_MacOS_X ? I've also managed to install iDeneb 1.6 on the VirtualBox (3.1.6 and 3.2.6). Installing FPC/Lazarus in the virtualized OSX didn't make any problems. The thread