Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-09 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 02:30:47PM +0200, Paul van Helden wrote: Well, I like it. Animals are not common as mascots for commercial software and to me, personally, shows that you're dealing with a community (warm, friendly) instead of a corporate entity (cold, greedy). We already

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-09 Thread Paul van Helden
On 2010/02/09 10:06 AM, Marco van de Voort wrote: It is a real pity about Jack Wolfskin, but I'd still go for the paw and refrain from making T-Shirts with it (or at least have the T-Shirts made by someone who cannot be sued :-) ). A big cat's paw print is the ultimate emblem of stealth and

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-09 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 10:55:37AM +0200, Paul van Helden wrote: refrain from making T-Shirts with it (or at least have the T-Shirts made by someone who cannot be sued :-) ). A big cat's paw print is the ultimate emblem of stealth and speed IMHO, since you never see the bugger ;-)

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-09 Thread Paul van Helden
On 2010/02/09 11:14 AM, Marco van de Voort wrote: On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 10:55:37AM +0200, Paul van Helden wrote: I guess it depends on how far you want to take this free-as-in-speech thing then? Support it, but don't try to be a martyr. You have to suffer to be a martyr...

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-06 Thread waldo kitty
On 2/4/2010 11:15, Klenongan wrote: @ waldo kitty no preview there... both are the same image and look like a lottery thing calling out upload and earn cash :? Strange, I can see the images just fine. Maybe something wrong with your proxy, or network settings? The xs.to is one of my

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-06 Thread waldo kitty
On 2/5/2010 06:24, Marco van de Voort wrote: (*) there probably is a good blurb about the name python. There is also one about Lazarus. When it is not instinctive however, it doesn't matter. So yes to Ruby, no to Python. What about Emerald? It is more precious than Ruby, provides a nice hook

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-06 Thread waldo kitty
On 2/5/2010 07:30, Paul van Helden wrote: It is a real pity about Jack Wolfskin, but I'd still go for the paw and refrain from making T-Shirts with it (or at least have the T-Shirts made by someone who cannot be sued :-) ). A big cat's paw print is the ultimate emblem of stealth and speed IMHO,

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-05 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 07:24:25AM +0200, Paul van Helden wrote: http://www.piqs.de/schnelluebersicht/search/gepard/ Is it just me or are there others that would agree that using real life animal pictures are just plain cheezy? (Well, the current Lazarus logos with cheetahs on

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-05 Thread Paul van Helden
On 2010/02/05 01:20 PM, Marco van de Voort wrote: It seems a significant portion of open source projects pick some animal, almost as some type of mascot, and that is cool How can something that everybody is doing be cool!??! Well, I like it. Animals are not common as mascots for

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-05 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010, Paul van Helden wrote: On 2010/02/05 01:20 PM, Marco van de Voort wrote: It seems a significant portion of open source projects pick some animal, almost as some type of mascot, and that is cool How can something that everybody is doing be cool!??! Well, I like it.

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-04 Thread Bee Jay
I took minimalist approach because most new visitors will be overwhelmed by things they have to read just to download the damned thing. There are many reason why open source projects nowadays put a big button on their front page just so anyone who visit the page for the first time (either by word

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-04 Thread Bee Jay
I don't like the gradient fill blue (old fashioned) and even less the idea of rotating banners in that position (annoying) Please note that it's a work in progress, nothing is final. Please read my other emails regarding this. -- -Bee- ...making buzzes at http://twitter.com/beezing

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-04 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 20:16 +0700, Klenongan wrote: And here's mine, with more 'elegant' touch to it. I use large fonts and white overall to make a neutral appearance --as I don't know Lazarus' color--. The page uses less text as possible on the front page, inspired by Mercurial, VLC,

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-04 Thread Martin
On 04/02/2010 07:29, Paul van Helden wrote: On 2010/02/04 07:56 AM, Martin wrote: A related topic that's been bothering me: can we please discuss a name change for Lazarus as well? It's not like a name change will hurt the project at this stage, methinks... -1 I don't see why changing the

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-04 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Paul van Helden schrieb: Is it just me or are there others that would agree that using real life animal pictures are just plain cheezy? +1 I vote for simply using the paw (/images/splash_source/paw.png). It is a beautiful piece of artwork. This image may conflict with Jack Wolfskin, who

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-04 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Martin schrieb: I had the National Geographic impression too... I did like the proposal from Bee Jay ( http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/676/lazwebnewsubpage030210.png ) Just another thing: I'd prefer the term multi-platform, in favor of cross-platform, which latter is frequently used for

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-04 Thread Klenongan
I don't like this design at all. Bee's design is much better. ... What you expect on a home-page is links, links, links and a few lines explaining things. Because every new-comer has a different reason to come to that page. Some like screenshots, and decide what this product is on those.

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-04 Thread JoshyFun
Hello Lazarus-List, Thursday, February 4, 2010, 5:15:25 PM, you wrote: K Strange, I can see the images just fine. Maybe something wrong with K your proxy, or network settings? The xs.to is one of my bookmarked K image host, I choose it because i can call it out of my head, being K just 'xs.to'.

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-04 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 23:15 +0700, Klenongan wrote: I don't like this design at all. Bee's design is much better. ... What you expect on a home-page is links, links, links and a few lines explaining things. Because every new-comer has a different reason to come to that page. Some like

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-04 Thread Bee Jay
On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:15 PM, Klenongan wrote: Well that's interesting, you don't know what Lazarus because you do not want to read the text, which right next to a big picture. A text below the name 'Lazarus' made bigger than the rest of the page, well placed to be seen first, not only that I

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Chris Kirkpatrick
Paul Ishenin wrote: Still I think that we must use blue colors. IDE uses blue logo, blue icons. Everywhere the blue color dominates. Web site can't be brown but everything else blue. And I think that we are not able to change logo and all icons to brown in a reasonable time. Blue is

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Michael Van Canneyt schrieb: If somebody knows how to deactivate animations in Firefox, any hints are very welcome! Use the about:config url. filter on image.animation_mode Set value to 'none' (no quotes) And that should be it. Bingo! :-) DoDi --

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 14:58 +0700, Bee Jay wrote: The content pages, will have a navigation bar below the shrinked header. The shrinked header will be static which will show the appropriate slide in regard with the content being displayed. Here's my proposal for content page layout:

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Bee Jay
On Feb 3, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Joost van der Sluis wrote: Nice. Thanks. I think that this part should be the same throughout the whole site. No, the header will be changed according to what content being displayed on the page. If it's FPC specific, then the header will show FPC banner.

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Bee Jay
However, if we are making a concerted effort to present a more 'professional' web image, perhaps it is time to impose a more consistent style on the more public and static pages, and agree on a few rules of style and spelling (British or American English? IDE or I.D.E.? and suchlike). What

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Klenongan
And here's mine, with more 'elegant' touch to it. I use large fonts and white overall to make a neutral appearance --as I don't know Lazarus' color--. The page uses less text as possible on the front page, inspired by Mercurial, VLC, Wordpress website so that new visitors wont be overwhelmed by

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Juha Manninen
Hi. And here's mine, with more 'elegant' touch to it. I use large fonts and white overall to make a neutral appearance --as I don't know Lazarus' color--. The page uses less text as possible on the front page, inspired by Mercurial, VLC, Wordpress website so that new visitors wont be

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Bee Jay
On Feb 3, 2010, at 8:16 PM, Klenongan wrote: And here's mine, with more 'elegant' touch to it. I use large fonts and white overall to make a neutral appearance --as I don't know Lazarus' color--. Yes, it look more elegant. It's a nice design, I must say. The page uses less text as possible

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Klenongan
I took minimalist approach because most new visitors will be overwhelmed by things they have to read just to download the damned thing. There are many reason why open source projects nowadays put a big button on their front page just so anyone who visit the page for the first time (either by word

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Michael Schneider
I suggest we use our own images. I already asked help from someone on the other thread to help us on this. I think these pictures are under CreativCommons http://animalphotos.info/a/topics/animals/mammals/cheetahs/ http://www.piqs.de/schnelluebersicht/search/gepard/ --

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Zaher Dirkey
Choose the picture you like it and trace it with Inkscape or corel draw then start to clean it up. On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Michael Schneider mic...@gmail.com wrote: I suggest we use our own images. I already asked help from someone on the other thread to help us on this. I think

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread waldo kitty
On 2/3/2010 08:16, Klenongan wrote: And here's mine, with more 'elegant' touch to it. I use large fonts and white overall to make a neutral appearance --as I don't know Lazarus' color--. The page uses less text as possible on the front page, inspired by Mercurial, VLC, Wordpress website so that

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Klenongan schrieb: And here's mine, with more 'elegant' touch to it. I use large fonts and white overall to make a neutral appearance --as I don't know Lazarus' color--. The page uses less text as possible on the front page, inspired by Mercurial, VLC, Wordpress website so that new visitors

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Michael Schneider schrieb: I suggest we use our own images. I already asked help from someone on the other thread to help us on this. I think these pictures are under CreativCommons http://animalphotos.info/a/topics/animals/mammals/cheetahs/ The Three Cheetahs image could reflect the

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread waldo kitty
On 2/3/2010 18:37, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Michael Schneider schrieb: I suggest we use our own images. I already asked help from someone on the other thread to help us on this. I think these pictures are under CreativCommons http://animalphotos.info/a/topics/animals/mammals/cheetahs/ The

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Paul van Helden
I think these pictures are under CreativCommons http://animalphotos.info/a/topics/animals/mammals/cheetahs/ http://www.piqs.de/schnelluebersicht/search/gepard/ Is it just me or are there others that would agree that using real life animal pictures are just plain cheezy? (Well, the current

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Martin
On 04/02/2010 05:24, Paul van Helden wrote: It seems a significant portion of open source projects pick some animal, almost as some type of mascot, and that is cool. There isn't one example, however, that I can think of where such website looks like some page on National Geographic. From

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Lance Collins
Paul wrote A related topic that's been bothering me: can we please discuss a name change for Lazarus as well? It's not like a name change will hurt the project at this stage, methinks... Have you noticed that Firefox now has an add-on called Lazarus? Isn't that irritating? Cheers Lance

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Paul Ishenin
04.02.2010 13:27, Lance Collins wrote: Have you noticed that Firefox now has an add-on called Lazarus? Isn't that irritating? If you goodle for Delphi you find more things than Delphi from Embarcadero. Best regards, Paul Ishenin. -- ___ Lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Klenongan wrote: Preview: http://xs.to/image-FAED_4B6973FF.jpg The big cheetah image makes me feel like I'm on a wildlife website and not a software tools website. PS: I had a good laugh at the year range in the copyright notice. Very optimistic that Lazarus will still be around. If it is,

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-03 Thread Paul van Helden
On 2010/02/04 07:56 AM, Martin wrote: I had the National Geographic impression too... I did like the proposal from Bee Jay ( http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/676/lazwebnewsubpage030210.png ) I don't like the gradient fill blue (old fashioned) and even less the idea of rotating banners in

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Paul Ishenin
02.02.2010 14:49, Bee Jay wrote: Take a look at http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5716/lazwebnew020210.png Still I think that we must use blue colors. IDE uses blue logo, blue icons. Everywhere the blue color dominates. Web site can't be brown but everything else blue. And I think that we

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi, Just thought I would mention that static pages is probably easier than any CMS. Applying relatively simple CSS can make it look beautiful without the need for fancy HTML. To help with maintaining the website, we have done the following in the tiOPF project. The HTML content is actually in

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
Take a look at http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5716/lazwebnew020210.png Still I think that we must use blue colors. IDE uses blue logo, blue icons. Everywhere the blue color dominates. Web site can't be brown but everything else blue. And I think that we are not able to change logo and

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
Something like this could easily apply to Lazarus too, and it is relatively little effort to setup. Also designing the website so that in doesn't use serverside includes etc makes it easier for users to checkout the website from the repository and simply use a web browser to view the

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 14:49 +0700, Bee Jay wrote: I've made a very basic design, just to show off my page layout and content structure proposal. It's not yet about the true design (color, theme, etc) and the accessories (images, icons, etc). Take a look at

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Aleksa Todorovic
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 09:26, Bee Jay bee.ogra...@gmail.com wrote: Take a look at http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5716/lazwebnew020210.png Still I think that we must use blue colors. IDE uses blue logo, blue icons. Everywhere the blue color dominates. Web site can't be brown but everything

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
Looks good. Maybe we can add a tagline to the brownish header. 'Code once, compile everywhere' could be it maybe. It has to tell what Lazarus/fpc is as less as words possible. Yes, as I asked previously, I need help about the wording. Somebody who has a bit knowledge about marketting may

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
Personally, I like the other color scheme more than this one. But, I would rather go with color scheme which is more in spirit of whole project. (btw, how about having blue behind Lazarus less intense - maybe more like those at the top and bottom?) BTW, my post is about the content structure as

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Bee Jay wrote: Here's the blue one: http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/3214/lazwebnew020210blue.png Looks good, but isn't there a spelling mistake in the title on content. It seem so many people make this mistake. The correct spelling is Free Pascal and *not* FreePascal. See website

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Bee Jay wrote: Here's the blue one: http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/3214/lazwebnew020210blue.png Another spelling mistake in the bottom of the page. The spelling is IDE and not I.D.E. :-) Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 15:35 +0700, Bee Jay wrote: Looks good. Maybe we can add a tagline to the brownish header. 'Code once, compile everywhere' could be it maybe. It has to tell what Lazarus/fpc is as less as words possible. Yes, as I asked previously, I need help about the wording.

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Bee Jay wrote: Is there anything still missing from there? No the content is MUCH better than the current website. I like the summary information and the roadmap (links) at the bottom. On page for the user and they can easily branch off from there no more specific information. Easy to spot!

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Paul Ishenin
02.02.2010 15:44, Joost van der Sluis wrote: Brown. But that's personal, offcourse. No matter what we like. I believe it is possible to draw it perfect using blue colors. Again IDE icons and logos can't be in another color sheme as a web-site. Best regards, Paul Ishenin. --

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 15:40 +0700, Bee Jay wrote: Personally, I like the other color scheme more than this one. But, I would rather go with color scheme which is more in spirit of whole project. (btw, how about having blue behind Lazarus less intense - maybe more like those at the top and

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Bee Jay wrote: BTW, which one do you like? the brown one or the blue one? :) Yes, the 'Code once, Compile everywhere' slogan is important. Just like the similar slogan used in Java. As for color, I think the blue theme should be used. After all, FPC, Lazarus, Wiki and Mantis websites already

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Paul Ishenin wrote: 02.02.2010 15:44, Joost van der Sluis wrote: Brown. But that's personal, offcourse. No matter what we like. I believe it is possible to draw it perfect using blue colors. Again IDE icons and logos can't be in another color sheme as a web-site. I

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
For example, when you click on 'support(s)' what kind of page do you see? Of is if a menu which shows when you hover your mouse above it, so that 'Mailing lists','online forum', 'IRC' etc appears? My approach is to be less JS as possible, more static HTML/CSS. It'll be easier to maintain.

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Torsten Bonde Christiansen
Bee Jay wrote: Personally, I like the other color scheme more than this one. But, I would rather go with color scheme which is more in spirit of whole project. (btw, how about having blue behind Lazarus less intense - maybe more like those at the top and bottom?) BTW, my post is about the

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
Perhaps i'm the only one missing a link to the Wiki pages? It's available on the footer section. It's my understanding that most of the current content for developers is placed on the wiki. So perhaps such a link should be placed in the top bar along with the downloads and support. The

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
I really like the page design! Thanks. I have a suggestion for the wording at the top of the page - see it below. You will see it is a bit more explanatory, perhaps more suitable for students. It also omits 'native', and I suggest this can be picked up in your 'cross-platform' stuff

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Paul Ishenin
02.02.2010 16:27, Bee Jay wrote: - native (more to Lazarus) - cross platform (more to FPC) I would say vice-versa. Best regards, Paul Ishenin. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
The big header section isn't static. It will be slide-like presentation that will highlight key features of both FPC and Lazarus. One more thing. The header section is available on the front page only. It wouldn't be available on the other deeper pages. The top link section and footer

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Marc Weustink
Bee Jay wrote: A design like this can even be served using current smf/tp site (till our own pascalbased is ready) Well, actually I'm thinking about Wordpress. I'm trying to collaborate both ideas, using available mostly php-based CMS or build custom CMS based on fpWeb. Also the contents can

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 16:35 +0700, Bee Jay wrote: The big header section isn't static. It will be slide-like presentation that will highlight key features of both FPC and Lazarus. One more thing. The header section is available on the front page only. It wouldn't be available on the

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 16:35 +0700, Bee Jay wrote: The big header section isn't static. It will be slide-like presentation that will highlight key features of both FPC and Lazarus. One more thing. The header section is available on the front page only. It wouldn't be available on the

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 10:49:07AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Bee Jay wrote: Is there anything still missing from there? No the content is MUCH better than the current website. I like the summary information and the roadmap (links) at the bottom. On page for the user and they can

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 10:45:12AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Bee Jay wrote: Here's the blue one: http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/3214/lazwebnew020210blue.png Another spelling mistake in the bottom of the page. The spelling is IDE and not I.D.E. :-) I would not use the term

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Marco van de Voort wrote: On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 10:45:12AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Bee Jay wrote: Here's the blue one: http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/3214/lazwebnew020210blue.png Another spelling mistake in the bottom of the page. The spelling is IDE

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Juha Manninen
I place the wiki link on Contribution section, not on Docs section, because I want to emphasize the contribution rather than the document. ;) It means lots of contents must be moved from wiki to the new static pages, right? Regards, Juha Manninen --

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Paul Ishenin
02.02.2010 17:16, Juha Manninen wrote: I place the wiki link on Contribution section, not on Docs section, because I want to emphasize the contribution rather than the document. ;) It means lots of contents must be moved from wiki to the new static pages, right? Not exatly. Maybe the main

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 11:05:05AM +0100, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: Another spelling mistake in the bottom of the page. The spelling is IDE and not I.D.E. :-) I would not use the term IDE, but RAD, and reserve IDE for the textmode IDE. No, since lazarus is not a RAD. It is an IDE,

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Martin
On 02/02/2010 07:49, Bee Jay wrote: I've made a very basic design, just to show off my page layout and content structure proposal. It's not yet about the true design (color, theme, etc) and the accessories (images, icons, etc). Take a look at

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
Ok, and how a user can 'see' where he is? And what we are looking at now is the first level navigation. What about the second and third? Good question. I haven't finish the deeper pages layout proposal. The content pages, will have a navigation bar below the shrinked header. The shrinked

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
Instead or in addition to the text feature highlights some icons or screenshots? So users can visually recognize the most important features? Yes, that's the plan. My designer needs some time to design the required images and icons. Once it's done, I will post it on the appearance

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Juha Manninen wrote: Please don't make the animations very heavy for CPU. Yes, please don't. And please don't use cheesy animations like the running cheetah either - that is so 80's style! Very cheesy!! There are many pages with animated ads that hog 70% of my CPU and I don't want to

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
On Feb 2, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Juha Manninen wrote: Please don't make the animations very heavy for CPU. There are many pages with animated ads that hog 70% of my CPU and I don't want to keep them open for long. It'd be a simple JS animation, not flash and nothing fancy. Another wish: I

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Marco van de Voort schrieb: I would not use the term IDE, but RAD, and reserve IDE for the textmode IDE. IMO RAD is a development model or qualifier (RAD Studio), while IDE is a concrete implementation (FP IDE, Lazarus IDE, Delphi IDE). In the given context it should be clear that the

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Marco van de Voort schrieb: I would not use the term IDE, but RAD, and reserve IDE for the textmode IDE. IMO RAD is a development model or qualifier (RAD Studio), while IDE is a concrete implementation (FP IDE, Lazarus IDE, Delphi IDE). In the given context

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Juha Manninen schrieb: Take a look at http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5716/lazwebnew020210.png Below it, it's an animated large header which will show some highlight features of FPC/Lazarus in rotation. Please don't make the animations very heavy for CPU. I have a mental problem with

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Martin
On 02/02/2010 14:08, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Juha Manninen schrieb: Take a look at http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5716/lazwebnew020210.png Below it, it's an animated large header which will show some highlight features of FPC/Lazarus in rotation. Please don't make the animations

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Juha Manninen schrieb: Take a look at http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5716/lazwebnew020210.png Below it, it's an animated large header which will show some highlight features of FPC/Lazarus in rotation. Please don't make the animations

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Doug Chamberlin
On 2/2/2010 2:49 AM, Bee Jay wrote: I've made a very basic design, just to show off my page layout and content structure proposal. It's not yet about the true design (color, theme, etc) and the accessories (images, icons, etc). Take a look at

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2 February 2010 18:01, Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org wrote: And that should be it. Ah you beat me to it, I should have read all message before I replied. Sorry for the duplicate -- Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread waldo kitty
On 2/2/2010 04:59, Marco van de Voort wrote: On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 10:45:12AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Bee Jay wrote: Here's the blue one: http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/3214/lazwebnew020210blue.png Another spelling mistake in the bottom of the page. The spelling is IDE and

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread waldo kitty
On 2/2/2010 06:13, Juha Manninen wrote: Hi, Take a look at http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5716/lazwebnew020210.png Below it, it's an animated large header which will show some highlight features of FPC/Lazarus in rotation. Please don't make the animations very heavy for CPU. There are

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread waldo kitty
On 2/2/2010 09:08, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Juha Manninen schrieb: Take a look at http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5716/lazwebnew020210.png Below it, it's an animated large header which will show some highlight features of FPC/Lazarus in rotation. Please don't make the animations very

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-02 Thread Bee Jay
The content pages, will have a navigation bar below the shrinked header. The shrinked header will be static which will show the appropriate slide in regard with the content being displayed. Here's my proposal for content page layout:

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-01 Thread Mike Parr
help. Also, I think that win7/vista users need a Microsoft download to run the chm version. best wishes Mike Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:49:56 +0100 From: Aleksa Todorovic alexi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content To: Lazarus mailing list lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-01 Thread Paulo Costa
Bee Jay wrote: It does not need to be part of a CMS - can just be static pages, linking to documentation, wiki. Yes, that's what I'm gonna do first. Just a good appearance with a collection of bunches of links and some appropriate semi-marketting words campaign. Once it's settled, the CMS

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-02-01 Thread Bee Jay
I've made a very basic design, just to show off my page layout and content structure proposal. It's not yet about the true design (color, theme, etc) and the accessories (images, icons, etc). Take a look at http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5716/lazwebnew020210.png On this design, at the

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-01-31 Thread Aleksa Todorovic
Several things which should be easily visible/accessible to anyone who comes for the first time, or wants to get started with Lazarus: What is it? - explaining in short what is Lazarus, LCL, FPC, Lazarus-CCR How does it look like? - screenshots of Lazarus on different platforms, different Lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-01-31 Thread theo
@Aleksa I almost completely agree. There should probably be a section with these information on the first page. The first page should primarily be for those who come for the first time - to attract them, and show them what Lazarus really is. Exactly. This is important and could be done in

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-01-31 Thread Aleksa Todorovic
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 18:20, theo x...@theo.ch wrote: Only thing I do not agree: I think we should not compare Lazarus with Delphi and other tools. It's a little cheap / bad taste. Theo I think it's important to have some as-objective-as-possible comparison for people who used and liked

Re: [Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-01-31 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Aleksa Todorovic schrieb: Only thing I do not agree: I think we should not compare Lazarus with Delphi and other tools. It's a little cheap / bad taste. Theo I think it's important to have some as-objective-as-possible comparison for people who used and liked Delphi (like most of us are, I

[Lazarus] Reconstructing Lazarus Website 2: the content

2010-01-30 Thread Bee Jay
Hi all, Now, let's talk about the content and its structure. From the first email, I have shared some references, maybe we could go from there. Some things need to be considered are: - what contents we're gonna provide to the visitors? - which contents need to be displayed on the main page?