Am 27.02.2012 21:02, schrieb Marco van de Voort:
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 02:53:21PM +0100, Sven Barth wrote:
http://rpmfind.net/
Found 157 RPM for fpc
Found 3 RPM for gpc (all of them in very old Mandriva versions)
You can't even find GPC packages in newer distributions.
See also:
My company also tried (and abandoned) Kylix:
http://port2laz.blogspot.com/2005/12/from-clx-to-vcl.html
2012/2/28 zeljko zel...@holobit.net
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On Tuesday 28 of February 2012 08:23:35 Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
I'm not saying Kylix 3 is still a booming product (it isn't), I'm just
saying
Same here.
Kylix had a great debugger, something that still doesnt work nice in
Lazarus, but other than that Lazarus is exceptional and the support is
very good. Try to get any support out of Borland and their successors.
Even earlier years before Delphi, they failed to fix RT-200 for pentium
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 08:35:55AM +0100, Michael Schnell wrote:
dead,
They (unfortunately) did not follow FPC on the path to Object Pascal
(Delphi and Apple style). If FPC programs could be compiled using gcc,
we could port Lazarus / FPC programs to any CPU architecture.
More likely, we
What is the most widely used Pascal on Linux and other Unix variants?
Is it Free Pascal?
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On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Vincent Snijders
vincent.snijd...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, in Linux FPC should have 99%+ of the Pascal market share. Lazarus
itself also has at least 95%+ of the IDE/framework marketshare.
Maybe it should, but what makes you think it has 'in fact' such a share?
On 27/02/12 11:29, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Vincent Snijders
vincent.snijd...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, in Linux FPC should have 99%+ of the Pascal market share. Lazarus
itself also has at least 95%+ of the IDE/framework marketshare.
Maybe it should,
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Henry Vermaak henry.verm...@gmail.com wrote:
I think Vincent is asking where you got the numbers you quoted. Or did you
just make them up? I.e. citation needed.
I invented the numbers. But if anyone thinks they are not realistic,
just get the download numbers
On 27/02/12 11:45, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Henry Vermaakhenry.verm...@gmail.com wrote:
I think Vincent is asking where you got the numbers you quoted. Or did you
just make them up? I.e. citation needed.
I invented the numbers. But if anyone
Op 27 februari 2012 12:45 heeft Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
felipemonteiro.carva...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven:
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Henry Vermaak henry.verm...@gmail.com
wrote:
I think Vincent is asking where you got the numbers you quoted. Or did you
just make them up?
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012, Vincent Snijders wrote:
Op 27 februari 2012 12:45 heeft Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
felipemonteiro.carva...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven:
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Henry Vermaak henry.verm...@gmail.com wrote:
I think Vincent is asking where you got the
Op 27 februari 2012 13:18 heeft michael.vancann...@wisa.be het
volgende geschreven:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012, Vincent Snijders wrote:
Op 27 februari 2012 12:45 heeft Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
felipemonteiro.carva...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven:
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Henry
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012, Vincent Snijders wrote:
Op 27 februari 2012 13:18 heeft michael.vancann...@wisa.be het
volgende geschreven:
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012, Vincent Snijders wrote:
Op 27 februari 2012 12:45 heeft Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
felipemonteiro.carva...@gmail.com het volgende
On 27 February 2012 13:29, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
Kylix is dead.
Some products just know know when to die, do they? ;-) I actually
know of quite a few commercial applications still written with Kylix
today. Beyond Compare 3 from Scooter Software would be an obvious one.
The fact
On 27 February 2012 13:53, Henry Vermaak wrote:
NB: I'm not doubting the popularity of fpc/lazarus, but you can't just make
up statistics.
+1 on both counts.
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Op 27 februari 2012 13:30 heeft michael.vancann...@wisa.be het
volgende geschreven:
Op 27 februari 2012 12:45 heeft Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
felipemonteiro.carva...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven:
With 'not *so* popular' I meant having 95 or 99% of the market share.
Ehm, market
Take a look at any RPM package search page:
http://rpmfind.net/
Found 157 RPM for fpc
Found 3 RPM for gpc (all of them in very old Mandriva versions)
You can't even find GPC packages in newer distributions.
See also:
http://pkgs.org/search/?keyword=gpc
Appears in Ubuntu 10. Disappeared from
Am 27.02.2012 14:47, schrieb Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho:
Take a look at any RPM package search page:
http://rpmfind.net/
Found 157 RPM for fpc
Found 3 RPM for gpc (all of them in very old Mandriva versions)
You can't even find GPC packages in newer distributions.
See also:
On 27 February 2012 10:15, Frank Church vfcli...@gmail.com wrote:
What is the most widely used Pascal on Linux and other Unix variants?
Is it Free Pascal?
--
Frank Church
What license are FPC and Lazarus, are they GPL?
I think somehow a way must be found of getting Pascal identified with
Am 27.02.2012 15:14, schrieb Frank Church:
What license are FPC and Lazarus, are they GPL?
The compiler and the IDE themselves are GPL, but their libraries (RTL,
FCL, LCL) are released under a modified LGPL (to allow static linking in
commercial projects)
2. A way must be found of
2012/2/27 Frank Church vfcli...@gmail.com:
1. Establish Free Pascal as THE Pascal, THE Object (based) Pascal on Linux
While I disagree that any serious competition to FPC exists in Linux,
you should know that FPC has never been monopolist. Competition is
widely seen as something good. Having
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 02:14:07PM +, Frank Church wrote:
dialects. There is more or less only one Ruby,
And which one is that, JRuby(*), IronRuby(**), or Ruby-on-parrot(***))?
(*) http://www.jruby.org Reworked On top of Java
(*) http://ironruby.net/ reworekd on top of .NET
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On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 03:59:35PM +0100, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
2012/2/27 Frank Church vfcli...@gmail.com:
1. Establish Free Pascal as THE Pascal, THE Object (based) Pascal on Linux
While I disagree that any serious competition to FPC exists in Linux,
you should know that FPC
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 02:53:21PM +0100, Sven Barth wrote:
http://rpmfind.net/
Found 157 RPM for fpc
Found 3 RPM for gpc (all of them in very old Mandriva versions)
You can't even find GPC packages in newer distributions.
See also:
http://pkgs.org/search/?keyword=gpc
On 27 February 2012 22:48, Marco van de Voort wrote:
I'm not sure if products that hinge on the last version of a series are
really relevant.
My point was more about the fact that Scooter Software has applied
there own fixes to CLX, and have also upgraded their Kylix 3 to use
Qt3 (instead of
On 2/27/2012 4:21 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
My point was more about the fact that Scooter Software has applied
there own fixes to CLX, and have also upgraded their Kylix 3 to use
Qt3 (instead of Qt 2.3 which came with Kylix).
Actually, the upgrade to Qt 3 was Andreas Hausladen's doing,
On Monday 27 of February 2012 23:21:31 Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 27 February 2012 22:48, Marco van de Voort wrote:
I'm not sure if products that hinge on the last version of a series are
really relevant.
My point was more about the fact that Scooter Software has applied
there own fixes
On Tuesday 28 of February 2012 00:58:20 Craig Peterson wrote:
On 2/27/2012 4:21 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
My point was more about the fact that Scooter Software has applied
there own fixes to CLX, and have also upgraded their Kylix 3 to use
Qt3 (instead of Qt 2.3 which came with Kylix).
On 28 February 2012 09:02, zeljko zeljko@ wrote:
While there are updates for K3 + Qt3 support (even I contributed and used
that) there's another problem: you cannot run K3 on any distro with glibc =
2.4, and that's problem (so it must be at least 6-7 yrs old distro).
I don't really see
On Tuesday 28 of February 2012 08:23:35 Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
I'm not saying Kylix 3 is still a booming product (it isn't), I'm just
saying that some companies invested heavily in Kylix or CLX
development, and simply can't move away from it.
My company also invested a lot into kylix, but
On 02/27/2012 09:02 PM, Marco van de Voort wrote:
While GPC is not very active atm, and a case could be made that it is
dead,
They (unfortunately) did not follow FPC on the path to Object Pascal
(Delphi and Apple style). If FPC programs could be compiled using gcc,
we could port Lazarus / FPC
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