Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 1/18/16, Lukasz Sokol wrote: > I'm with Howard here (and Matthias). It should be a default No if a change > can not be reversed by just Ctrl-Z or Undo. Obey widgetset behaviour. > if a change > can not be reversed by just Ctrl-Z or Undo. Implement Undo for the

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 18/01/16 10:36, Ondrej Pokorny wrote: > On 18.01.2016 10:42, Lukasz Sokol wrote: >> Then maybe make the 'No' answer default here? > > No. If I hit delete, I want to delete the button. The prompt is OK > there but the default action should always be what you want to do -> > "yes". Don't assume

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 18.01.2016 14:03, Lukasz Sokol wrote: Btw. Howard had the "No" button default but I changed it. I'm with Howard here (and Matthias As far as I understood Mattias' email, he did not say the dialog should default to "Yes". Btw. I checked when deleting files in the default file manager

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:36:57 +0100 Ondrej Pokorny wrote: > On 18.01.2016 10:42, Lukasz Sokol wrote: > > Then maybe make the 'No' answer default here? > > No. If I hit delete, I want to delete the button. The prompt is OK there > but the default action should always be what

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 18.01.2016 10:42, Lukasz Sokol wrote: Then maybe make the 'No' answer default here? No. If I hit delete, I want to delete the button. The prompt is OK there but the default action should always be what you want to do -> "yes". Don't assume that people are dumb :) Btw. Howard had the "No"

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 16/01/16 23:11, Howard wrote: [...] > In this particular instance of deleting a submenu (not just a single > item) my motivation was not to make it overly complicated (though I > appreciate it may seem so). It is quite possible a user may have > spent 10 minutes designing a submenu with half a

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 18/01/16 15:20, Ondrej Pokorny wrote: > On 18.01.2016 14:03, Lukasz Sokol wrote: >>> Btw. Howard had the "No" button default but I changed it. >>> >> I'm with Howard here (and Matthias > > As far as I understood Mattias' email, he did not say the dialog > should default to "Yes". Heh you're

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 18.01.2016 15:51, Bart wrote: Implement Undo for the menu-desgner will be on the wish list then. +1. Changing properties in OI and deleting components already are supported by the Undo function. The menu editor should support it as well. Ondrej --

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 17.01.2016 0:11, Howard wrote: In this particular instance of deleting a submenu (not just a single item) my motivation was not to make it overly complicated (though I appreciate it may seem so). It is quite possible a user may have spent 10 minutes designing a submenu with half a dozen

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 1:11 AM, Howard wrote: > You'll realise I'm on a learning curve. This is my first significant code > contribution to an open source project. I actually never thought I had the > skill to offer a new menueditor. It was a forum comment by the late >

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 15.01.2016 23:30, Howard wrote: Sorry, my apologies - I missed that you didn't try it. Yes working fine for me (Windows 7 32bit and Linux 64 bit). I'm relieved that such a simple change has had such a good effect, and that no further tinkering with TShadowMenu size and positioning code

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 16/01/2016 21:08, Ondrej Pokorny wrote: On 15.01.2016 23:30, Howard wrote: Sorry, my apologies - I missed that you didn't try it. Yes working fine for me (Windows 7 32bit and Linux 64 bit). I'm relieved that such a simple change has had such a good effect, and that no further tinkering

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 11.01.2016 21:36, Howard wrote: On 11/01/2016 16:07, Anthony Walter wrote: Very nice. I like the new design. Side note: Who wrote that FScroller for the new menu editor? It acts very erratic for me on Gtk2. I don't know about on other widget sets. See issue 29369. Why not use TScrollBox

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 15.01.2016 11:32, Ondrej Pokorny wrote: What were your problems? In r51298 I removed all the Scroller code and simply used TScrollBox for TShadowMenu and it works without any problems - much better than your Scroller experiment. I tested win32 and Linux+Gtk2. Forgot to say, please test :)

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 15.01.2016 11:32, Ondrej Pokorny wrote: I did not try making TShadowMenu a TScrollingWinControl descendant. Perhaps that would be a better option. What would others advise? What were your problems? In r51298 I removed all the Scroller code and simply used TScrollBox for TShadowMenu and it

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 15/01/2016 11:04, Ondrej Pokorny wrote: On 15.01.2016 11:32, Ondrej Pokorny wrote: I did not try making TShadowMenu a TScrollingWinControl descendant. Perhaps that would be a better option. What would others advise? What were your problems? In r51298 I removed all the Scroller code and

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 11/01/2016 21:51, Anthony Walter wrote: Howard, good job on the new menu designer. It's working very nicely right now. I'll take a look at modifying TShadowMenu to be a scrolling control without the need for a TScrollBox. Thanks. Yes, Ondrej's introduction of TSiblingFake and TFirstFake

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 12.01.2016 9:39, Howard wrote: Yes, Ondrej's introduction of TSiblingFake and TFirstFake are a neat improvement. Thanks! You did a nice job with the menu designer! I would ask you to omit the with statement, though. IIRC there are even nested with statements in the code. Withs can

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

Hello i testet SVN Revision 51256 of the Menu designer and it looks really cool. But i miss the Feature "If you doubleclick on the Menu Entry the IDE Jumps to the corresponding OnCLick Event" Which worked in the old version e.g. 50469 Could you please reactivate this ? Corpsman --

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

Howard, good job on the new menu designer. It's working very nicely right now. I'll take a look at modifying TShadowMenu to be a scrolling control without the need for a TScrollBox. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 11.01.2016 10:09, Anthony Walter wrote: No matter where I click it always shows the same pattern: ugly blue check board below, ugly aliased triangles to the right. Can you please define "ugly" in an objective way? I can say the same about your approach: "/No matter where I click it always

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 11.01.2016 4:33, Dmitry Boyarintsev wrote: The bottom one. It's more "calm". Doesn't look like a circus.​ I prefer the old one (top) :) The arrows/squares are very neat and show what you are going to do. If you think it looks like a circus, what about using a less agressive colour for

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 11.01.2016 9:35, Ondrej Pokorny wrote: I prefer the old one (top) :) The arrows/squares are very neat and show what you are going to do. Arrows: new submenu item. Squares: new sibling menu item. Very neat, IMO. Not to be removed, please :) Ondrej --

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

In my opinion the top one is kind of terrible. Just look at this video: http://cache.getlazarus.org/videos/menu-arrows.mp4 No matter where I click it always shows the same pattern: ugly blue check board below, ugly aliased triangles to the right. I can tell the item is going to be inserted

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

The top one. I find there is room for beauty (ugly?) and personality in programming. I find straight forward utilitarian to be ugly. I like things to be interesting. Any way to make the pattern settable? Win-Win! On 01/11/2016 10:34 AM, Anthony Walter wrote: > The point is, on a TPopupMenu if

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 2016-01-11 03:33, Dmitry Boyarintsev wrote: > The bottom one. It's more "calm". Doesn't look like a circus.​ +1 Regards, - Graeme - -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

The point is, on a TPopupMenu if the pattern to the right is always alias arrows, and the pattern below is always check board, then it's entirely superfluous, nonessential, redundant, and unneeded. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 2016-01-11 09:21, Ondrej Pokorny wrote: > IMO, it is very clear, again: > - Arrows: new submenu item. > - Squares: new sibling menu item. As a programmer the bottom image is equally clear to me. I simply find the bottom one more pleasing to the eye - less distracting. If the arrows and

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 11/01/2016 16:07, Anthony Walter wrote: Very nice. I like the new design. Side note: Who wrote that FScroller for the new menu editor? It acts very erratic for me on Gtk2. I don't know about on other widget sets. See issue 29369. Why not use TScrollBox or make TShadowMenu a

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On my system suddenly all is well with the new menu editor. Nice work :) The docked form designer still has the issue where it's not being realigned/repainted when a TMainMenu is placed on it. Issue 29370. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 11/01/2016 12:35, Ondrej Pokorny wrote: On 11.01.2016 13:31, Howard wrote: The latest trunk accepts a patch which adopts Bart's suggestion of identifying the purpose of the dummy menuitem by displaying a self-descriptive text. The background is no longer patterned. Of course this can be

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 11.01.2016 14:20, Bart wrote: In the image below, which style do you prefer. The top or bottom? The bottom one. Looks like I have been outvoted :) No problem. On 11.01.2016 10:09, Anthony Walter wrote: ugly aliased triangles On 11.01.2016 11:25, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: If the arrows

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 1/11/16, Anthony Walter wrote: > In the image below, which style do you prefer. The top or bottom? Suggestion: can you put the buttons in a grid like container? With at least vertical lines between the different groups. Bart --

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Howard wrote: > It is the second patch submitted on issue 29205 Oops, I failed to notice it. Should it be applied? I am happy if the issue is assigned to somebody else. Bart? Ondrej? I have some other issues to look at. Juha --

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 11.01.2016 14:51, Juha Manninen wrote: Oops, I failed to notice it. Should it be applied? I'll apply it manually. The patch won't apply because I fixed some issues recently. Ondrej -- ___ Lazarus mailing list

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Ondrej Pokorny wrote: > I'll apply it manually. The patch won't apply because I fixed some issues > recently. Assigned the issue to you. Thanks. :) Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 11.01.2016 13:31, Howard wrote: The latest trunk accepts a patch which adopts Bart's suggestion of identifying the purpose of the dummy menuitem by displaying a self-descriptive text. The background is no longer patterned. Of course this can be further changed. Where is the patch? Ondrej

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 1/11/16, Anthony Walter wrote: > In the image below, which style do you prefer. The top or bottom? The bottom one. Please add a text to it so one knows what it does. Keep up the good work !!! Bart -- ___ Lazarus mailing list

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 11/01/2016 09:34, Anthony Walter wrote: The point is, on a TPopupMenu if the pattern to the right is always alias arrows, and the pattern below is always check board, then it's entirely superfluous, nonessential, redundant, and unneeded. The latest trunk accepts a patch which adopts Bart's

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

Very nice. I like the new design. Side note: Who wrote that FScroller for the new menu editor? It acts very erratic for me on Gtk2. I don't know about on other widget sets. See issue 29369. Why not use TScrollBox or make TShadowMenu a TScrollingWinControl? --

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 11.01.2016 14:38, Howard wrote: It is the second patch submitted on issue 29205 Applied. IMO the discussion about the pattern is now solved :) Ondrej -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 11.01.2016 17:07, Anthony Walter wrote: Side note: Who wrote that FScroller for the new menu editor? It acts very erratic for me on Gtk2. I don't know about on other widget sets. See issue 29369. You can easily check by yourself in the SVN history. I don't know. Why not use TScrollBox

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

The bottom one. It's more "calm". Doesn't look like a circus.​ -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus