Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread Lukasz Sokol
On 03/12/13 12:42, Sven Barth wrote: > Am 03.12.2013 10:26 schrieb "Lukasz Sokol" >: >> And the [GEM/DR/?] idea of menus on top of screen also makes a come back in >> Ubuntu... >> and IIRC Gnome3. > > Considering Mac OS: were they ever away? > > Regards, > Sven > Wel

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread Sven Barth
Am 04.12.2013 09:40 schrieb "Lukasz Sokol" : > > On 03/12/13 12:42, Sven Barth wrote: > > Am 03.12.2013 10:26 schrieb "Lukasz Sokol" >: > >> And the [GEM/DR/?] idea of menus on top of screen also makes a come back in Ubuntu... > >> and IIRC Gnome3. > > > > Considering Mac OS: were they ever away? >

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread Santiago A.
El 04/12/2013 11:50, Sven Barth escribió: > > Am 04.12.2013 09:40 schrieb "Lukasz Sokol" >: > > > > On 03/12/13 12:42, Sven Barth wrote: > > > Am 03.12.2013 10:26 schrieb "Lukasz Sokol"

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread Lukasz Sokol
On 04/12/13 11:29, Santiago A. wrote: > El 04/12/2013 11:50, Sven Barth escribió: >> >> Am 04.12.2013 09:40 schrieb "Lukasz Sokol" > >: >>> >>> On 03/12/13 12:42, Sven Barth wrote: Am 03.12.2013 10:26 schrieb "Lukasz Sokol" >>>

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread Junior
Em 04-12-2013 10:07, Lukasz Sokol escreveu: On 04/12/13 11:29, Santiago A. wrote: El 04/12/2013 11:50, Sven Barth escribió: Am 04.12.2013 09:40 schrieb "Lukasz Sokol" mailto:el.es...@gmail.com>>: On 03/12/13 12:42, Sven Barth wrote: Am 03.12.2013 10:26 schrieb "Lukasz Sokol" mailto:el.es...@g

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Lukasz Sokol wrote: Considering Mac OS: were they ever away? Regards, Sven Well spotted :) I never had one... Me neither, but it's one of the things I know about Mac OS (X). I think that all this thread about the history of GUI and who copied whom is going a little too far, and too much of

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread Avishai
Everything I say here is my opinion only and related to MSWindows only because I do not have another OS to work with. I think Lazarus could grow quite a bit and maybe find some deep pockets, if it would address the problems of RightToLeft language support. There are a few billion people that must

[Lazarus] OnCustomDrawItem

2013-12-04 Thread Richard Mace
Hi, I am using Lazarus 1.2RC1 and am seeing an issue with OnCustomDrawItem. If I hover my mouse over a list view entry which has been modifed as follows: Sender.Font.Style := [fsBold]; Sender.Font.Color := clGreen; then, the first entry in the list view flickers and heading ca

Re: [Lazarus] OnCustomDrawItem

2013-12-04 Thread zeljko
On 12/04/2013 04:49 PM, Richard Mace wrote: Hi, I am using Lazarus 1.2RC1 and am seeing an issue with OnCustomDrawItem. If I hover my mouse over a list view entry which has been modifed as follows: Sender.Font.Style := [fsBold]; Sender.Font.Color := clGreen; then, the firs

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread Florian Klämpfl
Am 04.12.2013 15:49, schrieb Avishai: > Everything I say here is my opinion only and related to MSWindows only > because I do not have another OS to work with. I think Lazarus could grow > quite a bit and maybe find some deep pockets, if it would address the > problems of RightToLeft language supp

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread Avishai
There's very little interest because it simply can't do the job. If you're looking to buy a new car, you don't stop at a motorcycle shop. If Lazarus could overcome just a few of the major obstacles I think there would be RightToLeft people that would make the effort to create a great RightToLeft

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread Florian Klämpfl
Am 04.12.2013 21:08, schrieb Avishai: > There's very little interest because it simply can't do the job. If > you're looking to buy a new car, you don't stop at a motorcycle shop. > If Lazarus could overcome just a few of the major obstacles I think > there would be RightToLeft people that would

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread vfclists .
On 4 December 2013 20:20, Florian Klämpfl wrote: > Am 04.12.2013 21:08, schrieb Avishai: > > There's very little interest because it simply can't do the job. If > > you're looking to buy a new car, you don't stop at a motorcycle shop. > > If Lazarus could overcome just a few of the major obstac

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread Avishai
The guys that started Lazarus had a base to start from. They didn't start from scratch. They already had the basic code to do a lot of things and it worked. But it only worked for LeftToRight. If Lazarus could address even a few of the major issues, I think it would become the dominant programm

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread Sven Barth
On 04.12.2013 21:31, Avishai wrote: The guys that started Lazarus had a base to start from. They didn't start from scratch. They already had the basic code to do a lot of things and it worked. But it only worked for LeftToRight. They *did* start from scratch, because there was *no* code to a

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread Avishai
@vfclists. I agree with what you said. I have the knowledge about the requirements of RightToLeft applications, but I don't have the programming skills to make it happen. My suspicion is that the great majority of Lazarus/FPC users are not proficient enough to dig down into the low level code an

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread Avishai
Really? I thought it started fro Megido. On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Avishai wrote: > @vfclists. I agree with what you said. I have the knowledge about the > requirements of RightToLeft applications, but I don't have the programming > skills to make it happen. My suspicion is that the

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread Sven Barth
On 04.12.2013 21:48, Avishai wrote: Really? I thought it started fro Megido. On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Avishai mailto:avishai.g...@gmail.com>> wrote: @vfclists. I agree with what you said. I have the knowledge about the requirements of RightToLeft applications, but I don't ha

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Am 04.12.2013 21:48, schrieb Avishai: Really? I thought it started fro Megido. And? Then the same would apply to Megido. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Am 04.12.2013 21:31, schrieb Avishai: The guys that started Lazarus had a base to start from. They didn't start from scratch. They already had the basic code to do a lot of things and it worked. But it only worked for LeftToRight. If Lazarus could address even a few of the major issues, I thi

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread Avishai
I've said what I had to say. I tried to point to a potential new avenue to increase the Lazarus/FPC community and possible contributors, both code and financial. If the suggestion isn't welcome then so be it. On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Florian Klaempfl wrote: > Am 04.12.2013 21:48, schri

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread Andrew Brunner
Hi Avishai, Your contributions are welcome. There is a bounties page. I suggest you post something here: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Bounties You must first create a Wiki account before you can edit the page. -- Andrew Brunner Aurawin LLC 512.850.3117 https://aurawin.com/ Aurawin

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread waldo kitty
On 12/4/2013 3:43 PM, Sven Barth wrote: I know it sounds harsh, but: patches are accepted. In Open Source one mostly investigates in problems that oneself is interested in. this reminds me of one of the mantras of (F)OSS... There is no crying in (F)OSS. meaning that if something doesn't wor

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Sven Barth schrieb: On 04.12.2013 21:31, Avishai wrote: I know it sounds harsh, but: patches are accepted. Sorry, my experience is different. All attempts to make the drag&drop *really* Delphi compatible were rejected, only a few minor patches were accepted after more than a year of work o

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Florian Klämpfl schrieb: Am 04.12.2013 21:08, schrieb Avishai: There's very little interest because it simply can't do the job. If you're looking to buy a new car, you don't stop at a motorcycle shop. If Lazarus could overcome just a few of the major obstacles I think there would be RightToLef

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread Danny Weldon
> because I do not have another OS to work with. I think Lazarus could grow > quite a bit and maybe find some deep pockets, if it would address the > problems of RightToLeft language support. There are a few billion people > that must deal with the RightToLeft world. But with Lazarus's Avishai,

Re: [Lazarus] Pick List as a Value List item

2013-12-04 Thread Richard Mace
Excellent, thank you. Richard On 3 December 2013 18:24, Bart wrote: > On 12/3/13, Richard Mace wrote: > > Hi, > > Is it possible to have a Pick List within the ValueList editor or is it > > just strings? > > >From my ValEdit test suite: > > procedure TForm1.Button6Click(Sender: TObject); > be

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-12-04 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Sven Barth wrote: If Lazarus could address even a few of the major issues, I think it would become the dominant programming tool of the Middle East. I thing that's significant. I know it sounds harsh, but: patches are accepted. In Open Source one mostly investigates in problems that oneself i