Re: [Lazarus] Grouping radio buttons

2012-03-20 Thread Jürgen Hestermann
Hans-Peter Diettrich schrieb: I don't see how a user will recognize arbitrary radio button groups, with related buttons scattered across a form. Buttons in a panel or RadioGroupBox instead are naturally perceivable as related. Thus IMO the given model enforces a clearly structured GUI. When

Re: [Lazarus] SVN update conflicts

2012-03-20 Thread Vincent Snijders
Op 20 maart 2012 03:17 heeft Hans-Peter Diettrich drdiettri...@aol.com het volgende geschreven: Updating to rev. 36173 results in a number of conflicts in various Makefile, Makefile.compiled and Makefile.fpc, in components/ and packager/ subdirectories. What's wrong? How to fix that mess?

Re: [Lazarus] Why does a project have to be open?

2012-03-20 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:48 AM, Ajeandro Gonzalo parkingspac...@yahoo.com wrote: You've never heard anyone say Lazarus can be unstable or unusable?  There has been such messages from others. Generic statements like unstable or unusable mean nothing, the cause could be anything, even a faulty

Re: [Lazarus] SVN update conflicts

2012-03-20 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
Another option: 1-Remove all files with conflicts (including those .mine and .r34567 files) 2-svn up -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org

Re: [Lazarus] Updates to Synedit and 64 bit have linking problems

2012-03-20 Thread Vincent Snijders
Op 20 maart 2012 00:15 heeft ik ido...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 00:54, Martin laza...@mfriebe.de wrote: On 19/03/2012 16:27, ik wrote: On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 15:36, Martinlaza...@mfriebe.de  wrote: On 18/03/2012 08:50, ik wrote: Seen the responses. Since

Re: [Lazarus] Dropdown File list in Source Editor

2012-03-20 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 19 March 2012 16:33, Vincent Snijders vincent.snijders@... wrote: Indeed, so clever, that -until you were told- you didn't notice the fact that the Lazarus developers didn't spend their time on creating their own tab control. :-) You are not paying attention, dear Vincent. Some core

Re: [Lazarus] Dropdown File list in Source Editor

2012-03-20 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 19 March 2012 16:45, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho felipemonteiro.carvalho@...wrote: Until some months ago there was no custom drawn TCDPageControl in the LCL, so there was no decision to be made. Fair enough. That is incorrect, I wrote TCDPageControl which is part of the LCL: :-) --

Re: [Lazarus] Grouping radio buttons

2012-03-20 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Tuesday 20 March 2012 07:21:47 Jürgen Hestermann wrote: Hans-Peter Diettrich schrieb: I don't see how a user will recognize arbitrary radio button groups, with related buttons scattered across a form. Buttons in a panel or RadioGroupBox instead are naturally perceivable as related. Thus

Re: [Lazarus] Dropdown File list in Source Editor

2012-03-20 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com wrote: The LCL CustomControls should be a drop-in replacement, should it not?? The IDE already uses some custom IDE controls, so why would a few more be so wrong? Every case should be discussed separately, but in

Re: [Lazarus] Dropdown File list in Source Editor

2012-03-20 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 20 March 2012 08:45, Vincent Snijders vincent.snijders@g wrote: Resources. Rather have 1.0 this year (could have been last year if I didn't know 1.0 is that close... [humour] Then again, saying Lazarus 1.0 will be out this year/soon should be held in the same light as the other

Re: [Lazarus] Dropdown File list in Source Editor

2012-03-20 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 20 March 2012 08:48, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho felipemonteiro.carvalho@wrote: Every case should be discussed separately, but in general I would not change anything which already works before 1.0 I understand your intentions, but that is a odd statement none the less. Lots are being

Re: [Lazarus] Grouping radio buttons

2012-03-20 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 19 March 2012 22:15, Luiz Americo Pereira Camara luizmed@... wrote: Some time ago, i needed the same feature so implemented a TRadioButton.GroupIndex property where only the radio buttons with the same GroupIndex would be affected. That is exactly how fpGUI does it too since the start.

Re: [Lazarus] RE : Lazarus crashing reproducibly on startup (64-bitLinux)

2012-03-20 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
brian wrote: This is the Debian-based version of Mint. Standard Mint is Ubuntu-based but the Debian version is for those who prefer a rolling distribution. AFAIK, the current build is based on Debian Wheezy. I've tried downloading the svn version, and there's some problem with libgdb.a, I

Re: [Lazarus] lazbuild build IDE profiles

2012-03-20 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 23:26:45 -0400 waldo kitty wkitt...@windstream.net wrote: [...] ok... there is an already set default if/when one pulls from SVN? are there more than one available by default from SVN? Yes. There are four default. Normal IDE is the default default. [...] something

Re: [Lazarus] RE : Lazarus crashing reproducibly on startup (64-bitLinux)

2012-03-20 Thread brian
On 03/20/2012 03:45 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: brian wrote: This is the Debian-based version of Mint. Standard Mint is Ubuntu-based but the Debian version is for those who prefer a rolling distribution. AFAIK, the current build is based on Debian Wheezy. I've tried downloading the svn

Re: [Lazarus] lazbuild build IDE profiles

2012-03-20 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 23:50:49 -0400 waldo kitty wkitt...@windstream.net wrote: [...] echo compiling lazarus... cd %myLAZpath% echo * Debug IDE make clean lazbuild lazbuild.exe --build-ide=-gw -gl -godwarfsets -gh -gt -Co -Cr -Ci -Sa build-mode=debug ide copy /q lazarus.exe

Re: [Lazarus] Dropdown File list in Source Editor

2012-03-20 Thread Sven Barth
Am 19.03.2012 15:57, schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich: Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: On 19 March 2012 15:51, zeljko zeljko@... wrote: No, SE tab control is native handle. Umm, who made that clever decision! I don't think I know of a single IDE (except now for Lazarus IDE) that uses a native tab

Re: [Lazarus] Why does a project have to be open?

2012-03-20 Thread Juha Manninen
2012/3/20 Ajeandro Gonzalo parkingspac...@yahoo.com You've never heard anyone say Lazarus can be unstable or unusable? There has been such messages from others. And since others have also said always having to have a project open whether you want to or not is annoying, why not get rid of

Re: [Lazarus] lazbuild build IDE profiles

2012-03-20 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 09:45:51 +0100 Vincent Snijders vincent.snijd...@gmail.com wrote: Op 16 maart 2012 09:31 heeft Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de het volgende geschreven: The compiler does not provide this information. Depends on how you build it: vincent@fpclin32:~$ cd

Re: [Lazarus] Dropdown File list in Source Editor

2012-03-20 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: IMO Delphi and all other platform-specific applications and IDEs use native controls. Wishful thinking - they don't! They usually do, but not always :-) Moreover, you have a choice to do so in cases where it is important to use the less

Re: [Lazarus] SVN update conflicts

2012-03-20 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Vincent Snijders schrieb: Op 20 maart 2012 03:17 heeft Hans-Peter Diettrich drdiettri...@aol.com het volgende geschreven: Updating to rev. 36173 results in a number of conflicts in various Makefile, Makefile.compiled and Makefile.fpc, in components/ and packager/ subdirectories. What's wrong?

Re: [Lazarus] Grouping radio buttons

2012-03-20 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: On 20 March 2012 03:34, Hans-Peter Diettrich DrDiettrich1@a wrote: Buttons in a panel or RadioGroupBox instead are naturally perceivable as related. That is highly dependent on the UI layout. For a clean and uncluttered look, panels don't help the cause much.

[Lazarus] What is this compiling errors (with new 0.9.30.4)

2012-03-20 Thread Tommi Prami
Project.lpr(30,1) Error: Illegal COFF Magic while reading C:\MecwareCode\Heartwood\trunk\WinCE_pda_client\lib\i386-win32\interfacebase.o Project.lpr(30,1) Error: Illegal COFF Magic while reading C:\MecwareCode\Heartwood\trunk\WinCE_pda_client\lib\i386-win32\lclstrconsts.o Project.lpr(30,1)

Re: [Lazarus] SVN update conflicts

2012-03-20 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 11:37:49 +0100 Hans-Peter Diettrich drdiettri...@aol.com wrote: Vincent Snijders schrieb: Op 20 maart 2012 03:17 heeft Hans-Peter Diettrich drdiettri...@aol.com het volgende geschreven: Updating to rev. 36173 results in a number of conflicts in various Makefile,

[Lazarus] Is it possible to drag and drop a web browser URL into a Lazarus app?

2012-03-20 Thread Frank Church
Is it possible to drag and drop a web browser URL into a Lazarus app? Are there some controls with that facility? -- Frank Church === http://devblog.brahmancreations.com -- ___ Lazarus mailing list

Re: [Lazarus] lazbuild build IDE profiles

2012-03-20 Thread waldo kitty
On 3/20/2012 04:45, Vincent Snijders wrote: Op 16 maart 2012 09:31 heeft Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de het volgende geschreven: The compiler does not provide this information. Depends on how you build it: vincent@fpclin32:~$ cd ~/src/fpc/trunk/compiler

Re: [Lazarus] bug in debug-log code...

2012-03-20 Thread Martin
On 20/03/2012 15:53, waldo kitty wrote: anyway, my point is that something is eating the first part of the second line... i suspect a string index counter error or translation string problem?? either way, it... ummm... bugs me... please forgive the pun... Well my logfile looks ok (win32)

Re: [Lazarus] bug in debug-log code...

2012-03-20 Thread waldo kitty
On 3/20/2012 12:04, Martin wrote: On 20/03/2012 15:53, waldo kitty wrote: anyway, my point is that something is eating the first part of the second line... i suspect a string index counter error or translation string problem?? either way, it... ummm... bugs me... please forgive the pun...

Re: [Lazarus] Grouping radio buttons

2012-03-20 Thread Jürgen Hestermann
Martin Schreiber schrieb: MSEgui TRadioButton equivalent (tbooleaneditradio) has an integer group property as well. A useful feature. Nice to hear. I find this principle so apparent that I was a bit astonished that it was not implemented in TRadioButton as well. TRadioButton also allow an

Re: [Lazarus] lazbuild build IDE profiles

2012-03-20 Thread waldo kitty
On 3/19/2012 23:50, waldo kitty wrote: echo compiling lazarus... cd %myLAZpath% echo * Debug IDE make clean lazbuild lazbuild.exe --build-ide=-gw -gl -godwarfsets -gh -gt -Co -Cr -Ci -Sa build-mode=debug ide copy /q lazarus.exe lazarus-debug.exe echo * Normal IDE make clean lazbuild lazbuild.exe

Re: [Lazarus] lazbuild build IDE profiles

2012-03-20 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:18:20 -0400 waldo kitty wkitt...@windstream.net wrote: On 3/19/2012 23:50, waldo kitty wrote: echo compiling lazarus... cd %myLAZpath% echo * Debug IDE make clean lazbuild lazbuild.exe --build-ide=-gw -gl -godwarfsets -gh -gt -Co -Cr -Ci -Sa build-mode=debug

Re: [Lazarus] Grouping radio buttons

2012-03-20 Thread Salvatore Coppola
Put them in varius GroupBoxes so you can use the groupbox caption to logically(visual) differenziate each group of radiobuttons Salvatore 2012/3/19 Jürgen Hestermann juergen.hesterm...@gmx.de: I already searched for hours but cannot find anything useful. My question: Is it possible (and if

Re: [Lazarus] SVN update conflicts

2012-03-20 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Mattias Gaertner schrieb: Thanks, that helped. Will I have to do the same in the future, before every update, or was it a glitch? Something changed your makefiles. I don't know what. Hmm, very obscure. What's the reason for versioning e.g. Makefile.compiled? The Makefile.compiled is

Re: [Lazarus] lazbuild build IDE profiles

2012-03-20 Thread waldo kitty
On 3/20/2012 18:26, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:18:20 -0400 waldo kittywkitt...@windstream.net wrote: [...] yeah, this still needs work on my part because 1) it is recompiling lazbuild every time which should not be necessary You only need to build lazbuild once.

Re: [Lazarus] lazbuild build IDE profiles

2012-03-20 Thread waldo kitty
On 3/20/2012 21:41, waldo kitty wrote: On 3/20/2012 18:26, Mattias Gaertner wrote: Maybe some installed package. Compile with -vut to find out. that would be added to the --build-ide= parameter? that's what i'm going to try right now... it takes a while to complete... will post back what it

Re: [Lazarus] lazbuild build IDE profiles

2012-03-20 Thread waldo kitty
On 3/20/2012 22:13, waldo kitty wrote: something is ganked... will try another run with the command line of lazbuild.exe --build-ide= -vut --build-mode=debug ide note the space in the --build-ide portion... report in next post... this space in the command line seems to have gotten around the

Re: [Lazarus] lazbuild build IDE profiles

2012-03-20 Thread waldo kitty
On 3/20/2012 22:31, waldo kitty wrote: i have 590 hits on the term interfaces in my log... that's all hits... multiples per line are counted individually... i know it is too big to attach... so now what?? :( and interfac, an 8 character fallback(??) turns up 17183 hits including all of the