Re: [Lazarus] Snapshots outdated?

2014-02-06 Thread Vincent Snijders
2014-02-05 Sven Barth pascaldra...@googlemail.com: Hello together! I have the feeling that the snapshots on http://www.hu.freepascal.org/ lazarus/ are heavily outdated. This site is linked from http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?page=downloads so that's quite bad... Yes, maybe we

Re: [Lazarus] Getting help for a type if its unit is not in uses

2014-02-06 Thread Sven Barth
Am 05.02.2014 23:24, schrieb Flávio Etrusco: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Reimar Grabowski reimg...@web.de wrote: On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 12:25:18 +0100 Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote: Can we hope to someday get the feature that Lazarus adds the unit where a

Re: [Lazarus] Snapshots outdated?

2014-02-06 Thread Sven Barth
Am 06.02.2014 09:00, schrieb Vincent Snijders: 2014-02-05 Sven Barth pascaldra...@googlemail.com mailto:pascaldra...@googlemail.com: Hello together! I have the feeling that the snapshots on http://www.hu.freepascal.org/lazarus/ are heavily outdated. This site is linked from

Re: [Lazarus] Snapshots outdated?

2014-02-06 Thread Giuseppe Luigi
One of the mirrors is curiously updated IIRC, I Saw it some days ago. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus/FPC for Web Development only

2014-02-06 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/05/2014 11:57 AM, Michael Schnell wrote: by an xxx- WidgetType / xxx = one of ExtJS, JQuery, qooxdoo or dojo (or whatever the hype is these days). :-) By this, the application programmer would be enabled to switch between the hype of the day java script tools by clicking a setting in

[Lazarus] [OT] Re: Lazarus/FPC for Web Development only

2014-02-06 Thread Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis
Hi, Στις 5/2/2014 8:04 μμ, ο/η Michael Van Canneyt έγραψε: snip Demos, demos, demos :) Too much influence from Steve ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE ( sorry, i couldn't resist ) regards, -- Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis -- ___

Re: [Lazarus] [OT] Re: Lazarus/FPC for Web Development only

2014-02-06 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis wrote: Hi, Στις 5/2/2014 8:04 μμ, ο/η Michael Van Canneyt έγραψε: snip Demos, demos, demos :) Too much influence from Steve ? Let's hope not. I don't consider M$ a role model... :) Michael.-- ___

Re: [Lazarus] Threads and Libraries (dll and so)

2014-02-06 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/05/2014 07:37 PM, Reimar Grabowski wrote: OK, I could drop considering using KDE, QT, Gnome, the LCL and Lazarus and fpc and do everything in ASM. And loose your job for missing deadline after deadline. ;) ... What I meant by the sarcasm is: Even if there are other ways to reach a

Re: [Lazarus] Threads and Libraries (dll and so)

2014-02-06 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 01:44:59PM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Particularly on systems with some sort of interconnect between processor units, it's entirely possible to find the threads associated with a single program spread over a comparatively large physical volume, with each

Re: [Lazarus] Threads and Libraries (dll and so)

2014-02-06 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Marco van de Voort wrote: The question is more how you are going to display that stuff swiftly. GDI? Forget it. OpenGL gives up at about 40-60 MByte/s on a discrete model, and half on integrated video. (HD4000) One can try to create a GUI for this already remote scenario (independent

Re: [Lazarus] Threads and Libraries (dll and so)

2014-02-06 Thread Reimar Grabowski
On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 10:31:15 +0100 Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote: What I meant by the sarcasm is: Even if there are other ways to reach a goal, it does make sense to work with the powers to help improving a tool that shows shortcomings in certain aspects, while being perfectly

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus/FPC for Web Development only

2014-02-06 Thread luiz americo pereira camara
2014-02-04 14:42 GMT-03:00 glpu...@gmail.com: Hi all, and I would like to know your opinion if it's worth to develop web applications using server side with Brook (for example), and HTML5 and JS for client side, against other options like Java, PHP, Python. For some times i'm working in

Re: [Lazarus] Getting help for a type if its unit is not in uses

2014-02-06 Thread Flávio Etrusco
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 6:04 AM, Sven Barth pascaldra...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 05.02.2014 23:24, schrieb Flávio Etrusco: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Reimar Grabowski reimg...@web.de wrote: On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 12:25:18 +0100 Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote: Can we hope

Re: [Lazarus] Threads and Libraries (dll and so)

2014-02-06 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/06/2014 11:54 AM, Reimar Grabowski wrote: You see that as shortcomings. Most others (even widgetset developers) see thread-safe GUIs as nonsense without real benefit, else they would be available. I think we can agreee to disagree. This is a funny opinion indeed. - we did a project in

Re: [Lazarus] Getting help for a type if its unit is not in uses

2014-02-06 Thread Flávio Etrusco
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Flávio Etrusco flavio.etru...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 6:04 AM, Sven Barth pascaldra...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 05.02.2014 23:24, schrieb Flávio Etrusco: FWIW if you get an identifier not found error while compiling, the context menu in the

Re: [Lazarus] Threads and Libraries (dll and so)

2014-02-06 Thread Reimar Grabowski
On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 12:19:22 +0100 Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote: On 02/06/2014 11:54 AM, Reimar Grabowski wrote: You see that as shortcomings. Most others (even widgetset developers) see thread-safe GUIs as nonsense without real benefit, else they would be available. I

Re: [Lazarus] Threads and Libraries (dll and so)

2014-02-06 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/06/2014 01:21 PM, Reimar Grabowski wrote: So a gain for a small amount of apps but a lot of work to support the solution. Correct, but this is not the definition of not being a shortcoming. Currently there are other options but you do not want to use them. Your choice. Can't you read ?

Re: [Lazarus] Threads and Libraries (dll and so)

2014-02-06 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Michael Schnell schrieb: On 02/06/2014 11:54 AM, Reimar Grabowski wrote: You see that as shortcomings. Most others (even widgetset developers) see thread-safe GUIs as nonsense without real benefit, else they would be available. I think we can agreee to disagree. This is a funny opinion

Re: [Lazarus] Threads and Libraries (dll and so)

2014-02-06 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/06/2014 02:13 PM, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: When an application relies on high speed updates, it should serialize these requests itself, as required, instead of leaving this to the desktop manager and its arbitrary request scheduling. Once again, this is not about serializing requests

Re: [Lazarus] Threads and Libraries (dll and so)

2014-02-06 Thread Reimar Grabowski
On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 13:38:47 +0100 Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote: Can't you read ? Nope. The batteries of my cyberpig which does the reading for me are running low. Can you send a voice recording of your last mail? Or a video of you dancing it (perhaps multi-threaded)? Have a nice

Re: [Lazarus] Threads and Libraries (dll and so)

2014-02-06 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 10:21:12AM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: One can try to create a GUI for this already remote scenario (independent processes display to independent sections of the screen), but if the systems below can't handle it, what's the point? I agree, with the caveat that

Re: [Lazarus] Threads and Libraries (dll and so)

2014-02-06 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Marco van de Voort wrote: On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 10:21:12AM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: One can try to create a GUI for this already remote scenario (independent processes display to independent sections of the screen), but if the systems below can't handle it, what's the point? I agree,

Re: [Lazarus] Threads and Libraries (dll and so)

2014-02-06 Thread Michael Schnell
On 02/06/2014 04:17 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: I think that the only thing remotely worth pursuing, bearing in mind the current state of widget sets etc I don't suppose this makes much sense unless the infrastructure called by the LCL supports it in a proven way. OTOH: In the other

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus/FPC for Web Development only

2014-02-06 Thread leledumbo
Hehe... Thanks buddy! Please see Bootstrap project. :) http://getbootstrap.com Yep, I already use that along with jQuery. They do help covering my bad design. I really have no sense in good looking one, all I care is simplistic and straightforward yet intuitive UI/UX :p -- View this message

Re: [Lazarus] Threads and Libraries (dll and so)

2014-02-06 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Michael Schnell wrote: On 02/06/2014 04:17 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: I think that the only thing remotely worth pursuing, bearing in mind the current state of widget sets etc I don't suppose this makes much sense unless the infrastructure called by the LCL supports it in a proven

[Lazarus] New feature in 1.3 - Click through to members in Debug inspector

2014-02-06 Thread Martin Frb
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/IDE_Window:_Variable_Inspector Lazarus 1.3 only: Now allows to double click on rows, if you look at a class or record. It will then display this member (in full, not just the address / that is, if it is of any type that can be displayed) Same for pointers.

[Lazarus] kzdesktop...

2014-02-06 Thread Junior
Hello to all. The kzdesktop project was discontinued? thanks -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] kzdesktop...

2014-02-06 Thread Flávio Etrusco
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Junior lazarus.li...@gmail.com wrote: Hello to all. The kzdesktop project was discontinued? thanks Raphael never posted to this list and no Lazarus developer contributed to kzdesktop, so what one can say is that there are no commits in the public svn

Re: [Lazarus] kzdesktop...

2014-02-06 Thread Junior
ok, thank you. As the project anchordockingdsgn, an update is expected to add the form in the IDE, as we have in Delphi? At the moment the form is separated from the IDE. Em 06-02-2014 16:10, Flávio Etrusco escreveu: On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Junior lazarus.li...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Lazarus] Threads and Libraries (dll and so)

2014-02-06 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Mark Morgan Lloyd schrieb: I think that the only thing remotely worth pursuing, bearing in mind the current state of widget sets etc., would be whether an LCL in a dll/so animated by its own thread (which MichaelS has already said was doable) could output to a buffer, which could then be

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus/FPC for Web Development only

2014-02-06 Thread silvioprog
2014-02-06 14:10 GMT-02:00 leledumbo leledumbo_c...@yahoo.co.id: Hehe... Thanks buddy! Please see Bootstrap project. :) http://getbootstrap.com Yep, I already use that along with jQuery. They do help covering my bad design. I really have no sense in good looking one, all I care is

Re: [Lazarus] Threads and Libraries (dll and so)

2014-02-06 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Michael Schnell schrieb: On 02/06/2014 02:13 PM, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: When an application relies on high speed updates, it should serialize these requests itself, as required, instead of leaving this to the desktop manager and its arbitrary request scheduling. Once again, this is not

Re: [Lazarus] Threads and Libraries (dll and so)

2014-02-06 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Mark Morgan Lloyd schrieb: OK, so assuming an OS similar to X, can a single app support two forms on different displays, and/or move forms between displays? That's the job of the desktop/window manager, on every OS. When a form shall be updated on screen, the manager determines the monitor

Re: [Lazarus] Threads and Libraries (dll and so)

2014-02-06 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Mark Morgan Lloyd schrieb: OK, so assuming an OS similar to X, can a single app support two forms on different displays, and/or move forms between displays? That's the job of the desktop/window manager, on every OS. When a form shall be updated on screen, the