Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form
Balázs, instead of a hidden Panel could there be a nested PageControl with tabs at the bottom? In fact this idea is from Martin, otherwise I got no feedback. The panel versus PageControl difference is not fundamental which means the design is basically ok and you have green light to implement it. The PageControl may be easy to implement and would allow selecting the source editor / form designer with mouse, and also give visual hint about such possibility. Maciej, If I interpret your mails right, it was more about the API and not about embedding the form designer. The API can be improved anyway later and we can now go ahead with the form designer thing. Is this correct? Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form
2015-06-14 1:07 GMT+02:00 Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com: Balázs, instead of a hidden Panel could there be a nested PageControl with tabs at the bottom? In fact this idea is from Martin, otherwise I got no feedback. The panel versus PageControl difference is not fundamental which means the design is basically ok and you have green light to implement it. The PageControl may be easy to implement and would allow selecting the source editor / form designer with mouse, and also give visual hint about such possibility. Btw. In FreeSparta I already use PageControl. To get working plugable PageControl (with pages Code/Desig/Or even History) only few changes in sourceeditor.pp is required: all small changes are marked as simple comment // DaThoX some bigger changes are marked as // DaThoX begin more lines of modified code here // DaThoX end https://github.com/dathox/freesparta/blob/master/lazarus_sparta_patch/ide/sourceeditor.pp Maciej, If I interpret your mails right, it was more about the API and not about embedding the form designer. The API can be improved anyway later and we can now go ahead with the form designer thing. Is this correct? Maybe a little explanation. In FreeSparta you can find: 1. Non-invasive changes in Lazarus (the smallest). 2. what is possible, from point 1, it is added to the IdeIntf. 3. all the magic happens in the package ( https://github.com/dathox/freesparta/tree/master/1_spartaBasic). In contrast to Typhon code, the code of docked forms, can be completely uninstalled as a simple package. 4. everything is designed for the creation of ToolsAPI. Few technical details from Typhon should be moved into FreeSparta (holding form position and scrolling) for better multiplatform Docked Form. CodeTyphon docked form solution is copied (modified and fixed) from kzdesktop project... btw. I need to exclude dependencies from BGRAControls in few places. best regards, Maciej Izak -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form
2015-06-13 10:31 GMT+02:00 Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com: So we need the improved toolAPI before the embedded dockable form designer? IMO ToolsAPI should be only proxy for improved/extended IdeIntf. On the other hand I don't see why the dockable form designer would need Generics.Collections. Maybe not directly dockable form but tools/modules around (generally I need fast generic hash maps). Generics already work somehow in FPC 2.6.4, I have used the fgl unit myself in Lazarus code. fgl don't contains HashMap and is not automated/and simple in use like Generics.* for any kind of type. This is all very abstract. Now I try to figure out what is the best design for the dockable form designer. Balázs already has working code. If your solution is used, is it in addition to his code or does it replace it? Both. It depends of code part. Interesting thing: FreeSparta Docked Form installed in modified CodeTyphon works well with CodeTyphon Docked Form... http://i.imgur.com/7gd36LL.jpg In any case we need a patch and a more detailed explanation of what it does! The question remains: can you participate in practical level? Give me 24 hours, I'll do better patch. I can participate in practical level :). Best regards, Maciej Izak -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Flashing task bat icon orange on Windows 7
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Richard Mace richard.m...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to work out how to flash the taskbar icon in Windows 7, like Skype does, pragmatically. I have googled, and the closest I found was FlashWindowEx, but that doesn't actually flash the icon, just the form window. If your app is not the foreground app, SetForegroundWindow will flash the taskbar icon. On a new project, drop a TTimer, paste this, run, and minimize your app. procedure TForm1.Timer1Timer(Sender: TObject); begin SetForegroundWindow(Form1.Handle); end; see msdn: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms633539(v=vs.85).aspx An application cannot force a window to the foreground while the user is working with another window. Instead, Windows flashes the taskbar button of the window to notify the user. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Flashing task bat icon orange on Windows 7
Richard please send a screen shot for better understanding. Regards, Ara -- http://www.fastmail.com - Send your email first class -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Maciej Izak hnb.c...@gmail.com wrote: With properly implementing a system of Docked Form, we can create a very compatible ToolsAPI. So we need the improved toolAPI before the embedded dockable form designer? Can we include in some way Generics.Collections in to Lazarus...? Generics.Collections can work with incoming FPC 3.0. Yes, it can be included inside IFDEFs in Lazarus trunk if really needed. FPC 2.6.4 must be also supported for some time even when FPC 3.0 is out. On the other hand I don't see why the dockable form designer would need Generics.Collections. Generics already work somehow in FPC 2.6.4, I have used the fgl unit myself in Lazarus code. It will be easier for me now (I changed my job and again I program in Pascal :) ). Maybe in the beginning I will gather some key elements in the diagram (I need for this 2-3 days). I wonder whether I should override metaclass like TForm, TFrame and TDataModule to achieve many effects in FreeSparta project. This is one of the most controversial things in Sparta (and key things). This is all very abstract. Now I try to figure out what is the best design for the dockable form designer. Balázs already has working code. If your solution is used, is it in addition to his code or does it replace it? In any case we need a patch and a more detailed explanation of what it does! The question remains: can you participate in practical level? I still did not get feedback from other Lazarus developers about the design. That is another open issue. Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form
Am 12.06.2015 um 18:15 schrieb Juha Manninen: On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Maciej Izak hnb.c...@gmail.com wrote: IMO the best option for Lazarus is synergy of solution from CodeTyphon (the way of handling docked form in many platforms) and FreeSparta (elastic interfaces, it handles many usefull events like: Sounds good but how much are you willing to help with it? I have now time for Lazarus development but I don't know where to look for your docking code or elastic interfaces. We need a patch against Lazarus trunk. Two problems with docking: 1) Delphi-docking is not well supported, else the IDE DockManager could be used. 2) The IDE has much code for window placement, all over, instead of a common window layout manager. [1] Could be fixed, but the required patches (of Controls.pas) are rejected by the Lazarus team. for too many changes at a time :-( [2] I tried to replace the many window placement calls in the IDE by a better window management, but finally gave up. The IDE window managers are quite useless, except for the existing inflexible solution. Most probably patches will be rejected with the same rationale. IMO a general layout manager interface would be nice, where Delphi-docking, AnchorDocking or any other layout manager could be hooked in. But it looks like impossible to remove AnchorDocking from Controls, it's too much interwoven with AutoSize and other basic control methods, and will cause conflicts with any other layout manager. That's why I stopped working on Lazarus a long time ago :-( DoDi -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Hans-Peter Diettrich drdiettri...@gmx.de wrote: Two problems with docking: 1) Delphi-docking is not well supported, else the IDE DockManager could be used. 2) The IDE has much code for window placement, all over, instead of a common window layout manager. A docking API is a good idea. I think Maciej had similar idea with his ToolsAPI thing. Dodi, I remember you patches were rejected because they did not work. They were more like shooting around blindly. The current code has one big benefit: it works. The problem scope is complex and a good API may not be an easy task. Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form
Am 13.06.2015 um 11:41 schrieb Juha Manninen: On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Hans-Peter Diettrich drdiettri...@gmx.de wrote: Two problems with docking: 1) Delphi-docking is not well supported, else the IDE DockManager could be used. 2) The IDE has much code for window placement, all over, instead of a common window layout manager. A docking API is a good idea. I think Maciej had similar idea with his ToolsAPI thing. Docking is only one special method for adding, removing or rearranging components. The basic API will arrange, measure and resize child components, according to its own rules, when told to do so. See the Java layout managers, which can be selected independently into any container control. It should not be hard to work out an according API, the problem is to make e.g. AnchorDocking work as such a selectable layout manager. Dodi, I remember you patches were rejected because they did not work. Perhaps the patches were already outdated when supplied, but they worked on my system. Who can tell which concurrent changes will affect some code, unless the functional responsibilities and interaction of parts of the affected code is well defined? They were more like shooting around blindly. They may *look* so, in detail the IDE patches, but how would you start adding an manager to previously unorganized code? DoDi -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Flashing task bat icon orange on Windows 7
You'll need the taskbar's handle which you can get from WidgetSet.AppHandle. uses JwaWindows, InterfaceBase; procedure TForm1.Button1Click(Sender: TObject); var i: FLASH_INFO; begin i.cbSize := sizeof(i); i.hwnd := WidgetSet.AppHandle; i.dwFlags := FLASHW_TRAY or FLASHW_TIMERNOFG; i.uCount := 0; i.dwTimeout := 0; FlashWindowEx(i); end; Am 12.06.2015 um 22:25 schrieb Richard Mace: Hi, I am trying to work out how to flash the taskbar icon in Windows 7, like Skype does, pragmatically. I have googled, and the closest I found was FlashWindowEx, but that doesn't actually flash the icon, just the form window. Any ideas? Thanks Richard -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] IDE is still building message
Il 12/06/2015 09:59, Michael Van Canneyt ha scritto: Quite often, I get the IDE is still building message, when the IDE is in fact, no longer building. AFAIR I've met a similar issue, when the IDE wasn't actually building itself, but just compiling a package, or something. A message mixup? Giuliano -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
