Re: [Lazarus] Is Lazarus FPC compatible to RAD XE5?
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Bo Berglund bo.bergl...@gmail.com wrote: When you talk about conversion tools, is there also some form of dproj project file conversion utility? No but the .dproj file does not have much useful information for a Lazarus project anyway. I think it has the project search paths. They are needed in Lazarus only if your project's unit files are in subdirectories. They must NOT be used for library code. Lazarus package system takes care of that. A related issue are the global search paths in Delphi. They are commonly used for components and libraries which are used by many projects. This breaks the idea of modular design and pollutes the namespace, and prevents compiling projects in different machines without first configuring Delphi's global path. I think even Borland wanted to change that but they didn't for backwards compatibility. Lazarus does not have global search path at all. Any library code should be in a Lazarus package. A project or another package can then depend on that package. The package injects its own source paths to the master project/package. No ugly path configuration is needed, never! Lazarus IDE remembers any package that is has once opened. The package is then used when needed without extra configuration. So I had to start a new VCL project when I did the Unicode conversion (UTF8 is what I used) and then add all the sources to that project and set the various properties like search paths and such manually... Do you use UTF-8 with XE Delphi? Why? It triggers conversion between UTF-8 and UTF-16 at every assignment. I can recommend the new UTF-8 support in Lazarus for you because you only start converting now: http://wiki.freepascal.org/Better_Unicode_Support_in_Lazarus It is almost compatible with Delphi even though the encoding is different. It requires now development version of FPC but they will release 3.0RC1 soon. Thus you can ignore Unicode issues now and return to them when your conversion works otherwise. So, what the does the automatic conversion (in Tools menu) say? Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Is Lazarus FPC compatible to RAD XE5?
Hello Bo, there are several software examples listed here: http://wiki.freepascal.org/Lazarus_Application_Gallery As you can see it is possible to develop any kind of software with Lazarus, and the software description you provided does not preclude its implementation with it. Best regards, Sandro Cumerlato On 14 June 2015 at 08:41, Bo Berglund bo.bergl...@gmail.com wrote: I am seeking an alternative to the Embarcadero RAD studio XE5 and I would like to know if a Delphi application developed with D6-D7-BDS2006-XE5 could be loaded and built in Lazarus? The application uses only standard features existing in the older versions of Delphi plus a couple custom components like an RS232 component (AsyncPro) and graphics (GLScene). It is only VCL based for Windows32 (even though it would have been nice to compile it for Win64 to use a larger memory. The primary function is processing of tomographic data (lots of math) and display of the results using GLScene. The bulk of the math is implemented in 3 DLL files developed in Fortran(!), but these are standard interface DLL functions. No database stuff at all is involved. I moved it to XE5 about 6 months ago to make use of Unicode for the GUI and user messages (display in foreign languages even Chinese). Is it possible or is it going to be an uphill battle for a long time? -- Bo Berglund Developer in Sweden -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Is Lazarus FPC compatible to RAD XE5?
I am seeking an alternative to the Embarcadero RAD studio XE5 and I would like to know if a Delphi application developed with D6-D7-BDS2006-XE5 could be loaded and built in Lazarus? The application uses only standard features existing in the older versions of Delphi plus a couple custom components like an RS232 component (AsyncPro) and graphics (GLScene). It is only VCL based for Windows32 (even though it would have been nice to compile it for Win64 to use a larger memory. The primary function is processing of tomographic data (lots of math) and display of the results using GLScene. The bulk of the math is implemented in 3 DLL files developed in Fortran(!), but these are standard interface DLL functions. No database stuff at all is involved. I moved it to XE5 about 6 months ago to make use of Unicode for the GUI and user messages (display in foreign languages even Chinese). Is it possible or is it going to be an uphill battle for a long time? -- Bo Berglund Developer in Sweden -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Is Lazarus FPC compatible to RAD XE5?
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Bo Berglund bo.bergl...@gmail.com wrote: I am now investigating if it is likely I could do this and I have not yet installed Lazarus. The computers I used back in 2005 and 2010 are long gone... You don't need computers from 2005. Just install Lazarus and do : Tools - Delphi Conversion - Convert Delphi Project to Lazarus Project ... It is the best way to investigate. Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Is Lazarus FPC compatible to RAD XE5?
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:45:33 +0300, Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Bo Berglund bo.bergl...@gmail.com wrote: So I had to start a new VCL project when I did the Unicode conversion (UTF8 is what I used) and then add all the sources to that project and set the various properties like search paths and such manually... Do you use UTF-8 with XE Delphi? Why? It triggers conversion between UTF-8 and UTF-16 at every assignment. We have developed a couple of components for handling the translation of our applications into different languages. The languages are defined by ini file formatted text files and before my conversion these were just plain ini files accessed via the TIniFile class. But for Unicode I use a different subclass of TCustomIniFile, namely TMemIniFile and it has (now in XE) an optional Create parameter that sets the encoding of data in the file. Here I use UTF8. But internal to the application the texts are in strings, which now means Unicode strings since Embarcadero simply redefined what type string means. So only when reading in the language strings into the internal arrays will there be any conversion. This brings to mind these components for language handling: - One on each form which will have its GUI texts managed - Another in a data module to handle the complete application - A 3rd type also on the data module to handle non-GUI texts, which are sent by code to message boxes and dialogs or written on graphics etc. These components need to be possible to use in Lazarus/FPC as well. So, what the does the automatic conversion (in Tools menu) say? I am now investigating if it is likely I could do this and I have not yet installed Lazarus. The computers I used back in 2005 and 2010 are long gone... -- Bo Berglund Developer in Sweden -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form
If you can, please verify concepts. If my idea is correct then I can make easier to use patch (more compilable). Just I do not want to do unnecessary work. Regards, Maciej Izak -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form
2015-06-12 18:40 GMT+02:00 Balazs Szekely balazsszek...@yahoo.com: I have a question, though: I read on your site that FreeSparta only works on Windows. It would be difficult to make it Linux/OSX compatible? We need a docking system that is functional on every widgetset. The latest CT implementation works on every platform(ok, it has some issues on OSX, but it can be fixed). I'm sorry for late reply, your message was categorized as spam. :\ The root of CT solution and Sparta solution is inspired by kzdesktop. I don't have code, related for windows platform directly. I use only LCL, and I fixed small bugs in parts of Lazarus for Windows platform ( for example OverlayWindowProc in https://github.com/dathox/freesparta/blob/master/lazarus_sparta_patch/lcl/interfaces/win32/win32callback.inc ). FreeSparta is avaible for Windows platform because I only use windows for my daily work. It's very hard to release big (commercial) project for many platforms. FreeSparta should work in any platform supported by Lazarus with small changes. Inside project I use only LCL without windows directly related stuff. The main difference between Sparta and Typhon implementation : 1. Docked form scrolling 2. Docked form position THE MOST IMPORTANT DETAILS :) In Sparta all is done by overriding published properties related to scrolling and related to form position. In CT it is achived by blocking messages in WindowProc. What is better solution ? I don't know :) -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
