Re: [Lazarus] Do we really need a PaintSwastika procedure?
Now this is strange: a "FREE SOFTWARE" project discussing whether they should or should not discuss political/historical/cultural views. 2016-01-08 13:43 GMT-03:00 Shaun O'Connor : > I concur completely, Just because a particular graphic is included in the > distribution densest oblige one to make use of it. > > If we all got nit picky about the meaning of various symbols we would never > get anywhere, , I say let the matter rest and concentrate on continuing the > good work of a fine open source project. > > > On 08/01/2016 15:34, Donald Ziesig wrote: >> >> My two cents. >> >> This has gotten completely out of hand. When an item has multiple >> meanings (e.g., artistic, religious or offensive political history) we >> should give it the benefit of the doubt and LEAVE IT IN. >> >> This is Lazarus (an international programming organization), not a >> totalitarian regime. As was exemplified before, should we paint a Hindu who >> is printing a religious symbol with the same brush as a Neo-Nazi? I say NO. >> Most people who are technically competent enough to install and use Lazarus >> have the ability to draw anything they want anyway. >> >> PLEASE, LET'S TERMINATE THIS THREAD, NOW! >> >> Don Ziesig >> >> -- >> ___ >> Lazarus mailing list >> Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org >> http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus >> . >> > > > -- > ___ > Lazarus mailing list > Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] [fpc-pascal] Raspberry Pi
> Can you build shared libraries with FPC and load it with another FPC program > on RPi? > Hi!. I don't know, I didn't tried that. You could try it emulating Raspberry Pi with qemu. Gustavo > > > 2015-02-13 11:33 GMT-02:00 Gustavo Enrique Jimenez : >> >> Thank you very much to all Freepascal and Lazarus developers. Today I >> was able to compile all my applications within "Raspberry Pi". I am >> very happy. Many thanks to everyone for this amazing tool that you >> gave to the world. >> >> >> Gustavo >> ___ >> fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pas...@lists.freepascal.org >> http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal > > > > > -- > The best regards, > > Fabio Luis Girardi > PascalSCADA Project > http://sourceforge.net/projects/pascalscada > http://www.pascalscada.com > > -- > ___ > Lazarus mailing list > Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus > -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Raspberry Pi
Thank you very much to all Freepascal and Lazarus developers. Today I was able to compile all my applications within "Raspberry Pi". I am very happy. Many thanks to everyone for this amazing tool that you gave to the world. Gustavo -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Developing on Linux with files on Windows NTFS
> Has anyone had any success in using common storage for multi-platform source > code? If so, how do you do it? > > Thanks, > > Don Ziesig I use a real machine with Linux and a virtual machine with Windows. I boot to a real Windows only when I have to test custom USB hardware. A years ago I use a virtual machine with SVN on Linux. The virtual machine files were hosted on a NTFS partition visible from a real Linux with Virtualbox and a real Windows with Virtualbox. That way it was posible to access the source code from both Linux and Windows. Gustavo -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Please define "delphi compatibility"
Hi: 2012/10/10 Deon de Wet-Roos : > Hi > > I'm a chemist in South Africa and I'm trying to start a new line in > programming. I started out with Delphi 4 and being a poor chemist I > thought Lazarus was the answer to my programming needs. I cannot afford to > fork out thousands of Rands for a new programming language and besides > Pascal was the language I grew up with at varsity. Can any of you guru's > advise me what the best option is? I like Delphi and made my first US$ 10 > 000 using Delphi 4. I'd like to continue with Lazarus and pay a donation > for everything I earn using lazarus. However it seems there are many ego's > involved with the development of lazarus and that makes me jittery. If > Lazarus is not the best cross platform programming language then what is? > In South Africa we don't have the luxury of pensions and I'll have to work > until I die. My idea is to develop technical solutions to companies in C++, > Pascal and Matlab but if I cannot count on Lazarus what must I do? > > Deon Lazarus/Freepascal just works. About the egos, not sure if the first mail is from bully or troll. I think that developers of both Lazarus and Freepascal are nice guys with a cool spirit. Gustavo > > -Original Message- > From: Florian Klämpfl [mailto:flor...@freepascal.org] > Sent: 10 October 2012 07:43 PM > To: Lazarus mailing list > Subject: Re: [Lazarus] Please define "delphi compatibility" > > Am 10.10.2012 19:32, schrieb Jürgen Hestermann: >> >> Am 2012-10-10 19:11, schrieb Florian Klämpfl: So the question still holds: What changes would be accepted and which would be rejected? >>> Does it matter for you? What are you working on? >>> >> The answer is important not only for contributors. >> I am often doubting whether it is worth to stay with Pascal. > > If you are in doubt, then switch. There are enough enviroments fitting > everybody's need so it is not necessary to stay with an enviroment which > does not fit perfectly one's needs. > >> If it is an dead end I would not want to waste any more time on it. > > How is this related to what patches lazarus accepts? There are e.g. Mse > and fpGUI only to name a two other options which follow very different > directions. If this does not fit you, you are indeed wrong in the pascal > world and you have to look somewhere else for other options. > > -- > ___ > Lazarus mailing list > Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Pinpoint, and is > believed to be clean. > > > -- > ___ > Lazarus mailing list > Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus 1.0 Release
Congratulations!. I am a big fan of Lazarus/FPC. 2012/8/29 Mattias Gaertner : > The Lazarus team is glad to announce the release of: > > Lazarus 1.0 > > At this important stage the current team would like to thank all the past and > current people who were involved in getting us here. > * Thanks also go to the FPC team for providing the compiler that makes it all > possible. > * Special thanks go to the founders of the project who started Lazarus more > than a decade ago in 1999: Cliff Baeseman, Shane Miller and Michael A. Hess. > * A history of developers involved can be found at > http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/History. And a list of the many > contributors comes with the distribution. > > The release is available for download at the SourceForge download page: > http://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus/files/ > > Choose your CPU, OS, distro and then the "Lazarus 1.0" directory. > > Minimum requirements: > Windows: 98, 2k, XP, Vista, 7, 32 or 64bit > FreeBSD/Linux: gtk 2.8 or qt4.5, 32 or 64bit > Mac OS X: 10.4, LCL only 32bit, non LCL apps can be 64bit > > This release has been built with fpc 2.6.0 (the former release 0.9.30.4 was > built with that too). > > The svn tag is > http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/tags/lazarus_1_0 > > The list of changes: > http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_1.0_release_notes > > For people who are blocked by SF, the Lazarus releases from sourceforge are > mirrored at: > ftp://freepascal.dfmk.hu/pub/lazarus/releases/ > and later at (after some time for synchronization) > http://michael-ep3.physik.uni-halle.de/Lazarus/releases/ > and > http://mirrors.iwi.me/lazarus/ > > > Mattias > > -- > ___ > Lazarus mailing list > Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Xubuntu, Lazarus and project stored and built on a pendrive with ntfs
hi all: Not executing programs from external file systems is a kernel option adopted by many linux distros, I think. You should copy the program to the local filesystem and change permissions to execute it. 2012/3/17 Bernd Kreuss : > On 17.03.2012 23:08, Salvatore Coppola wrote: > >> I'm low level user so can you take a look, is how you supposed? > > Somehow somewhere the default mount options can be changed in xubuntu. I > assume you want it to have it mounted with exec bits set every time you > plug it in, maybe you should consult the ubuntu forums where these > default options for xubuntu's automounting daemon are hidden and where > the correct place is to make these changes (its probably some gnome > thingy running in the background and xubuntu with its minimal interface > probably does not have an UI to configure it). The people on the ubuntu > forums should be able to help, they know this system inside out. > > -- > ___ > Lazarus mailing list > Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus > -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] TChart usage
2012/1/5 Alexander Klenin : > On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 02:19, Gustavo Enrique Jimenez > wrote: > >> Is there any tutorial on how to use TChart? Thanks! > > For examples, see "demo" folder. > For documentation, see > http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/TAChart_documentation. > There is no separate tutorial (yet?). > > -- > Alexander S. Klenin > Ok, thanks! > -- > ___ > Lazarus mailing list > Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] TChart usage
Hi all: Is there any tutorial on how to use TChart? Thanks! Gustavo -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Converting Fortran to FPC?
Hi 2010/10/6 Bo Berglund : > I have a question that might be OT here, but I will try nevertheless: > > We have a Windows application written in Delphi for data analysis and > display. > It uses GLScene as the data rendering engine and it uses 3 Fortran > DLL:s to do the number crunching. > > I want to port the whole thing to Lazarus/FPC and I have seen that > GLScene is available for Lazarus (see separate thread). > So far it looks promising, but I also need to handle the three Fortran > DLL:s. > > They were made using an Intel Fortran compiler plugged into Visual > Studio several years back. The developer is no longer with us, but the > sources (and the Windows compiler are). > > So my question now is if there is any experience of either porting > Fortran code to FPC or of compiling Fortran code for a Windows DLL > into the corresponding function in Linux? > (By te way, is there such a thing as a DLL in Linux?) > > Any info on this greatly appreciated! > There is an Intel Fortran Compiler for Linux, 30 days evaluation for free. You could try to recompile those DLLs. If the recompile works, it will generate a .so file instead of a .dll, wich is a shared object on Linux. Gustavo > > -- > Bo Berglund > Developer in Sweden > > > -- > ___ > Lazarus mailing list > Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus > -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus-other list
2010/7/2 Reimar Grabowski : > On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 01:09:58 +0200 > Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > >> Some >> take their "hobby" way to serious here, and treats the mailing lists >> like the Nazi Camps from way back. > > You should think before you write mails. This is a very serious advice. > Comparing anything today to this time shows clearly that you absolutely do > not know what you are talking about. > I had a much better opinion of you before this mail. > I am very disappointed. > Aha, the Godwin's law: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a "fpGUI is better than Lazarus" approaches 1. Gustavo > You should read this very carefully before talking about this topic again > (even if you just want to insult people): > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust > > This is not funny at all. And your disrespect for the more then 6 million > murdered people is very alarming. > Use your brain before you write mails. > > R. > -- > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > A: Top-posting. > Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? > > -- > ___ > Lazarus mailing list > Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus > -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Suggestion again: remove GTK1 from IDE and LCL
2010/6/3 Adem : > On 2010-06-04 04:21, Gustavo Enrique Jimenez wrote: >> >> But I don't like the fpGUI's developer. he is very rude, and has a >> strange behavior: he always says, in the Lazarus mailing list, how >> wonderfull is his tool and how buggy is Lazarus. I don't understand >> that. >> > > Exactly. > > And, I am also told he, the fpGUI's developer, prefers decaf with plenty of > milk, as opposed to the rough-ground dark strong Colombian variety the real > men among us go for. > > -- > Cheers, > > Adem > Seriously, I love Free Pascal/Lazarus. The few crashes are due to my own mistakes on my own code. Maybe I'm not a very good programmer, but I have wrote a lot of apps with Freepascal/Lazarus. Data acquisition, mostly. Unit, form, button, xml file, tchart... Ctrl+F9, BANG, a brand new app reading data from a 16f877 through serial port. Web, Linux, windows, what do you want. Give me a Mac, I can do that, too. Great quality, free as in speech, multiplatform. Lazarus is great. Free Pascal/Freepascal is great. Everything else is just smoke. Period. Gus > -- > ___ > Lazarus mailing list > Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus > -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Suggestion again: remove GTK1 from IDE and LCL
>> "Graeme Geldenhuys" to whom you replied is that "fpGUI's developer" > > I think that was a kind of joke. At least I feel it so. Maybe in GB humor is > a bit different? > > Best regards, > Paul Ishenin. > Malvinas belong to Argentina ;) Gustavo > > -- > ___ > Lazarus mailing list > Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus > -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Suggestion again: remove GTK1 from IDE and LCL
2010/6/3 Graeme Geldenhuys : > On 3 June 2010 20:39, Marc Santhoff wrote: >> No it isn't pointless. You forget about embedded computers, they are not >> growing over time and are running on small amounts of resources, e.g. a >> 233 MHz Geode CPU having 64 MB of RAM. I wouldn't even dare to try GTK2 >> on that little things. > > Then switch to fpGUI for embedded systems. It works perfectly and is > low on resources and small size executables. Plus fpGUI is a lot more > modern in looks than GTK1 - and fpGUI is still actively being > developed. :) > But I don't like the fpGUI's developer. he is very rude, and has a strange behavior: he always says, in the Lazarus mailing list, how wonderfull is his tool and how buggy is Lazarus. I don't understand that. Gustavo -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus make me create better apps
2010/5/18 Luiz Americo Pereira Camara : > Lee Jenkins escreveu: >> >> Personally a good IDE for me would consist of a good editor. I've tried >> some out there like Notepad++ which is ok, but settled down to using PSPad >> on Windows. > > Did you try http://spket.com/ ? > > Luiz Hi I think Geany is a very good editor too (it is almost multiplatform). As good as Notepad++. Also, you could try Notepad++ /wine on GNU/Linux. Gustavo ps: We (Lazarus/Freepascal users) can say with pride that our apps are REALLY multiplatform. All along the stack, from desktop GUI to web apps. > > -- > ___ > Lazarus mailing list > Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus > -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Suggestion: Remove GTK1 support from IDE and LCL.
2010/5/15 Krisztián Nagy : > "Does anyone use a Linux distribution that is no longer supported by it's > maker? > If so why?" > There was a discussion in the thread about the usage of old releases, see it > there. > I personally know people who use for example old ubuntu because their > hardware is not supported (I know this normally does not happen but it still > does in some cases) or too slow with the newer releases. I gues there can be > more reasons. > The point I was trying to make was that we should know who and on which > system uses lazarus so such decisions could be made. > I do not have that information. If there is some source from where you know > that no one uses lazarus on releases with old gtk just show it and that > should solve this issue. :) > However, I agree that in general it is a viable policy to align the required > version to the officially supported main distros (and of course take > advantage of all of it's features). But I think at this point we do not know > if the general case applies to lazarus or our user base is different and we > should follow a different path (like being compatible with old systems). > I hope it is clear now. > Krisztián > -- For .deb packages, Debian Stable must be used as a reference distro. Gustavo > ___ > Lazarus mailing list > Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus > > -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Code refused from Andreas Hausladen? Is this true?
2010/5/13 Graeme Geldenhuys : > "Also, seems not possible to make it any better. Andreas Hausladen > invest their valuable time to make lazarus LCL code compatible with VCL > and the Lazarus developers refuse to accept the code, just coz them > don't want it. An episode that make me wonder if I should work with > lazarus any time in future, I found it an absurd." > -- Cesar Romero (2010-04-09) > https://forums.embarcadero.com/thread.jspa?threadID=35581&tstart=15 > > > Is this true? When did Andreas supply patches? > You are asking about a comment from some guy talking about a patch from some another guy. You are a troll. Gustavo > > -- > Regards, > - Graeme - > > > ___ > fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit > http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ > > -- > ___ > Lazarus mailing list > Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus > -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus make me create better apps
2010/5/3 Graeme Geldenhuys :
> Hi,
>
> The reason for the Subject line:
> With such constant regression bugs, I started my own IDE from scratch a few
> days ago to see how hard it really is. In +-9 hours (avg of 1 hour each
> evening) I already created an IDE that manages a project, has different
> build modes, has user defined macros (eg: ${FPGUIDIR} = '/opt/fpgui/'), has
> template projects, uses multiple threads for parsing, searching, compiling,
> etc. It works consistent under both Linux (32-bit & 64-bit) and Windows
> 32-bit (I don't have 64-bit Windows to test), and I don't break the IDE
> after each new feature. So thanks to Lazarus, I'll probably continue my own
> project. It seems the old saying of "why reinvent the wheel" doesn't apply
> to the Lazarus project - it benefits the developer to reinvent the wheel.
>
You sound like a very talented programmer. I don't understand why you
cry instead of helping with Lazarus development.
Gustavo
> I guess I am to blame. It was my fault for subscribing to the mailing list
> again - simply to ask a question a few days ago. I think I better crawl
> back under my rock and mind my own business.
>
>
> Regards,
> - Graeme -
>
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Re: [Lazarus] debian packages now have testing/unstable requirements
Hi 2010/4/7 Mattias Gaertner : > On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:22:03 -0700 > David Emerson wrote: > >> Hey y'all, >> >> I'm disappointed to discover that the lazarus packages at hu.freepascal.org >> are >> now requiring libatk 1.29.3 (or greater) whereas debian stable has 1.22 > > AFAIK the libatk dependency is automatically setup by the dpkg tool > using the version of the building machine. > I think this is a bad idea. Forcing Debian users to install Testing/Unstable is a bad idea. Debian Stable exists for a reason, a very good reason, far beyond any Lazarus reason to depend on Debian Testing/Unstable. Gustavo > >> What's the status on this? Is there any chance that this requirement might be >> relaxed in the future? > > I guess not, except we downgrade the debian machine. > > >> I tried installing lazarus-ide-qt, but the lazarus-ide package still seems to >> have a bunch of gtk requirements. Perhaps the lazarus-ide package needs to be >> cleaned up? > > I didn't check. It should not have any gtk requirements. > > >> Maybe I need to start using svn now, in order to avoid some of these library >> dependencies? > > Yes, it is worth a try. > > > Mattias > > -- > ___ > Lazarus mailing list > Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus > -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus Controller - AVR ?
2010/4/6 ajv : > The LazarusController is in development. > Further information will become available in May. > Thank you for your patience. > > Anthony Vogelaar VERY interesting. Is it possible to send one to Argentina? How much will it cost? Gustavo > = > Osvaldo Filho wrote: >> >> http://www.blaisepascal.eu/index.php?actie=./lazarus_dutch_event >> >> Does anyone have information? >> >> -- >> ___ >> Lazarus mailing list >> Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org >> http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus >> >> > > > -- > ___ > Lazarus mailing list > Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus > -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Newcomers with Debian based systems
2010/3/18 patspiper : > Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: >> >> Nonetheless two problems remain: >> - the help is installed, but into the wrong directory (/usr/share/...) >> - fpc 2.2.4 is installed, too old when switching to SVN trunk later >> >> I hope that the Help issue is fixed soon. Research for SVN and fpc 2.4 >> goes on... >> > Debian packages for fpc 2.4.0 exist. > > I had to create a repository on my local drive and added it to Synaptic's > software sources. It wasn't very easy. I learned later on that you could use > the command dpkg -i *.deb to install packages from the current directory; > haven't tried it though. > The command (as root) dpkg -i *.deb works for me. In 2009 I have had to write this command three times in a clean Debian Lenny (maybe wrong packages dependencies order). A month ago the command worked in the first try in a clean Ubuntu 9.10 . Well, not exactly in the first try, I have had to install *-dev packages as pointed out by dpkg. But the dpkg's message was very clear. Gustavo (excuse my english) > -- > ___ > Lazarus mailing list > Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus > -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Newcomers with Debian based systems
Hi > As it looks to me now, I do not only see Lazarus in a downward spiral, > instead the spiral already has reached ground zero :-( Enough of the "downward spiral". > > > If somebody can point out the most promising path to follow, I can report in > part 2 what further trouble prevented me from installing a working version > of Lazarus that way. It's ridiculous when some tar comes with a bunch of > packages, which cannot be installed due to dependency issues. I'd expect at > least a README that explains the required order of installation, and/or > refers to other resources with according explanations. > It is like the "can't write to serial port" thread month ago. If you are a developer, you MUST understand your system. The "next, next, next, finish" only works for windows. Try to learn about your Ubuntu package system, then try to install a complex DEVELOPER tool. I am not a contributor, I am not a beta tester, I am not a translator, I am not a GNU/Linux expert. I just do electronics with serial port data aquisition, and Free Pascal/Lazarus is a great tool for quick apps development. I use Debian (since Potato): never a problem installing Lazarus (since 0.7.x). You must read and learn how your system works. GNU/Linux, BSD, etc. are not trivial systems. You MUST understand what are you doing. Gustavo ps: excuse my english. > DoDi > > > -- > ___ > Lazarus mailing list > Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus > -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] [Fwd: Re: Is Lazarus a Delphi plagiat?]
Hi all: Just google "linux pascal compiler". Period. Gustavo 2010/1/29 Hans-Peter Diettrich : > IMO a good add-on to the "Lazarus is invisible?" thread. > > > Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: >>[snip] > > DoDi, your attitude does not help the Lazarus image. Lazarus, like many > (most?) OS projects *is* difficult to understand when looking through the > eyes of a person not yet familiar with Lazarus or the organization of the > web > pages/documentation. Most OS devs have grown with the project and have never > seen the steep hill in front of the newbie. > > Just go to the Lazarus web page (http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/) and > look > for installation instructions - nothing visible... > > But there is a FAQ (assuming everyone knows what a FAQ is) - nothing about > installation... > > But there is a Wiki (assuming everyone knows what a Wiki is) - nothing > obviously about installation... > > But there is the Lazarus Documentation section, now we're getting somewhere > - > Yes! After the tutorials is a user guide and finally I have found the link > "2.1 Installation". Click... > > And I get a new page which has the link "Installing Lazarus" at the top - > Now > we're really getting close. Click... > > And I get a new page where I optimistically select the first link, > "Overview" > - Click... > > And I get a text beginning "For people who simply want to install Lazarus > and > start using it for programming, the easiest approach is to download and > install a recent, reasonably stable binary release (such as a Linux ".rpm" > package, a Windows ".exe" installer, or a Mac OS X ".dmg" package). You can > read the sections under Linux or Windows entitled "fpc binaries" or the > first > paragraphs in the sections on installing Lazarus in Linux or Windows; most > of > the remaining information can be safely ignored." > > So, safely ignoring most of the document I walk along trying to find the > first paragraph on installation in Windows (maybe a link would have been > good?). OK, fastest way was to go Back and find the appropriately named > header and Click... on that. > > And I get a new page which begins "The current releases of the Windows > Lazarus binary packages install very easily, and should work > 'out-of-the-box'. ", then follows a pageful of discussion (!?) about > installing on a USB drive. > > So, we have "...simply want to install L. and start using it..." and > "...work > out-of-the-box...". No links to any "Getting started" section, no indication > that anything special is needed to get going. > > This complete lack of any information about what happens after installation > makes you "just start it and try it". And when *that* doesn't work out of > the > box, you throw it away. > > > Now, for the record, I have downloaded Lazarus quite a number of times and > started to test it, I have gotten a "Hello World!" program to compile and > work in Windows, and that's about it. When I tried to port a Delphi project > I > drowned in incompatibilities (not Lazarus/FPC's fault, but that was what > stopped me). When I tried to cross compile for some linux, I drowned in the > "you need version this of that and..." swamp (still not Lazarus/FPC's fault > but that was what stopped me). > > I do believe Lazarus/FPC can be used for serious programming, but the > learning curve is much too steep for me. > > -- > Anders Isaksson, Sweden > BlockCAD: http://www.blockcad.net > Gallery: http://www.blockcad.net/gallery/index.htm > > -- > ___ > Lazarus mailing list > Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus > > -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] gdk_pixbuf
> > yes, perhaps the FPC and/or Lazarus installer can determine the OS it is > being installed on and it can create these links as necessary? that may > require root access, though... some may not want to provide that... > especially if it is an install for only one user... > I think this is not a good idea. Developers MUST take care of the system's internals. It should not be problem for a responsible developer (hey, it is just a devel package). On windows systems, developers tends to ignore fundamental principles. Unix, Linux, etc. requires some background. That is why unix-like systems are more reliable than windows systems: unix's developers know unix, windows developers don't know windows. Gustavo ps: excuse my english -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] QT binding works!
2009/11/14 zeljko : > On Saturday 14 November 2009 01:35, David Emerson wrote: >> I've done all this, but at the very beginning of the compilation, I get: >> >> make[2]: *** [../../units/i386-linux/qt] Error 1 >> >> and it gives up. >> >> Using debian stable, kde 3.5.9/10. Tried with the packaged lazarus >> 0.9.28.2-0 as well as svn >> >> $ /sbin/ldconfig -p | grep qt >> libqt4intf.so.5 (libc6) => /usr/local/lib/libqt4intf.so.5 >> libqt4intf.so (libc6) => /usr/local/lib/libqt4intf.so >> libqtmcop.so.1 (libc6) => /usr/lib/libqtmcop.so.1 >> libqt-mt.so.3 (libc6) => /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 >> libdbus-qt-1.so.1 (libc6) => /usr/lib/libdbus-qt-1.so.1 >> libavahi-qt3.so.1 (libc6) => /usr/lib/libavahi-qt3.so.1 >> > > You don't have Qt4 libs installed. As I can see you have properly installed > libqt4intf.so.XX but not Qt4 libs (only Qt3 is inside). > Don't know what should be dpkg command, but under rpm distro : > rpm -qa | grep qt shows all packages contains qt ... so try that to see what > you have inside. > > zeljko In my Debian/stable I have libqt4-core and libqt4-dev, not sure if this will solve your problem. Install with apt-get install libqt4-core libqt4-dev (as root) Gustavo > > -- > ___ > Lazarus mailing list > Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus > -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus under Wine
Hi I tried Lazarus 0.9.26.2-win32 under wine on a Debian Lenny x86. It gives me a lot of warnings about paths and units. I am running Lazarus from my winxp installation. Perhaps will be better to install Lazarus under wine, and then run Lazarus under wine. I will not try this. My lazarus-created win32 apps runs fine under wine. Lazarus0.9.26.2-linux-x86 on my Debian runs perfectly. Gustavo 2009/5/17 Lord Satan : > On Sun, 17 May 2009 14:06:48 +0200 > zeljko wrote: > >> win98 bottle (configured wine OS) ? > In winecfg Windows version is set to XP if you mean that. > > S. > -- > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > A: Top-posting. > Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? > > ___ > Lazarus mailing list > Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus > ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
