Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-07-08 Thread Maciej Izak
2015-06-15 14:31 GMT+02:00 Graeme Geldenhuys: How is that going to look under OSX where tabs are very different (read as butt ugly and rubbish) compared to other platforms? You can check this. :) First version with Sparta Basic (docked design form and IDE changes) :D is available at:

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-17 Thread Juha Manninen
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys mailingli...@geldenhuys.co.uk wrote: How is that going to look under OSX where tabs are very different (read as butt ugly and rubbish) compared to other platforms? Good question. Has somebody tried CodeTyphon or KZDesktop in a Mac? Those

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-15 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2015-06-14 00:07, Juha Manninen wrote: The PageControl may be easy to implement and would allow selecting the source editor / form designer with mouse, and also give visual hint How is that going to look under OSX where tabs are very different (read as butt ugly and rubbish) compared to

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-14 Thread Maciej Izak
If you can, please verify concepts. If my idea is correct then I can make easier to use patch (more compilable). Just I do not want to do unnecessary work. Regards, Maciej Izak -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-14 Thread Maciej Izak
2015-06-12 18:40 GMT+02:00 Balazs Szekely balazsszek...@yahoo.com: I have a question, though: I read on your site that FreeSparta only works on Windows. It would be difficult to make it Linux/OSX compatible? We need a docking system that is functional on every widgetset. The latest CT

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-13 Thread Juha Manninen
Balázs, instead of a hidden Panel could there be a nested PageControl with tabs at the bottom? In fact this idea is from Martin, otherwise I got no feedback. The panel versus PageControl difference is not fundamental which means the design is basically ok and you have green light to implement it.

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-13 Thread Maciej Izak
2015-06-14 1:07 GMT+02:00 Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com: Balázs, instead of a hidden Panel could there be a nested PageControl with tabs at the bottom? In fact this idea is from Martin, otherwise I got no feedback. The panel versus PageControl difference is not fundamental which

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-13 Thread Maciej Izak
2015-06-13 10:31 GMT+02:00 Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com: So we need the improved toolAPI before the embedded dockable form designer? IMO ToolsAPI should be only proxy for improved/extended IdeIntf. On the other hand I don't see why the dockable form designer would need

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-13 Thread Juha Manninen
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Maciej Izak hnb.c...@gmail.com wrote: With properly implementing a system of Docked Form, we can create a very compatible ToolsAPI. So we need the improved toolAPI before the embedded dockable form designer? Can we include in some way Generics.Collections in

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-13 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Am 12.06.2015 um 18:15 schrieb Juha Manninen: On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Maciej Izak hnb.c...@gmail.com wrote: IMO the best option for Lazarus is synergy of solution from CodeTyphon (the way of handling docked form in many platforms) and FreeSparta (elastic interfaces, it handles many

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-13 Thread Juha Manninen
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Hans-Peter Diettrich drdiettri...@gmx.de wrote: Two problems with docking: 1) Delphi-docking is not well supported, else the IDE DockManager could be used. 2) The IDE has much code for window placement, all over, instead of a common window layout manager. A

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-13 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Am 13.06.2015 um 11:41 schrieb Juha Manninen: On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Hans-Peter Diettrich drdiettri...@gmx.de wrote: Two problems with docking: 1) Delphi-docking is not well supported, else the IDE DockManager could be used. 2) The IDE has much code for window placement, all over,

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-12 Thread Norbert Crettol
Hello, I received this mail. Cheers Norbert On 12/06/15 08:04, Sandro Cumerlato wrote: Hello Balázs, unfortunately this mail has been marked as SPAM by gmail. Are you registered to the mailing list? Do other members have received the message? Docking IDE is an important milestone IMHO.

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-12 Thread Juha Manninen
the alternative details Should be: the alternative designs -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-12 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2015-06-12 8:53 GMT+02:00 Ondrej Pokorny laza...@kluug.net: Hello Sandro, this seems to be a problem with (your) gmail spam filter. Ondrej On 12.06.2015 08:04, Sandro Cumerlato wrote: Hello Balázs, unfortunately this mail has been marked as SPAM by gmail. Are you registered to the

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-12 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2015-06-12 07:04, Sandro Cumerlato wrote: unfortunately this mail has been marked as SPAM by gmail. I don't use Gmail any more for the mailing lists. Balazs's email came through fine to my mail server without any warnings. Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-12 Thread Sandro Cumerlato
Hello Balázs, unfortunately this mail has been marked as SPAM by gmail. Are you registered to the mailing list? Do other members have received the message? Docking IDE is an important milestone IMHO. Please Lazarus developers go ahead. Sandro Cumerlato On 11 Jun 2015 13:17, Balazs Szekely

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-12 Thread Ondrej Pokorny
Hello Sandro, this seems to be a problem with (your) gmail spam filter. Ondrej On 12.06.2015 08:04, Sandro Cumerlato wrote: Hello Balázs, unfortunately this mail has been marked as SPAM by gmail. Are you registered to the mailing list? Do other members have received the message? Docking

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-12 Thread Juha Manninen
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Ondrej Pokorny laza...@kluug.net wrote: this seems to be a problem with (your) gmail spam filter. The same happened to me and (I guess) all gmail users. We communicated with Balázs (GetMem) using forum PMs. He has now switched from the problematic Yahoo address

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-12 Thread Maciej Izak
IMO the best option for Lazarus is synergy of solution from CodeTyphon (the way of handling docked form in many platforms) and FreeSparta (elastic interfaces, it handles many usefull events like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FOjWCLDScQt=264 additionaly freesparta allow us to create

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-12 Thread Juha Manninen
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com wrote: I use the GMail web interface too and I often have this spam issue with mails coming from yahoo (among others). I solved the issue by entering a filter in the GMail web interface telling it never to consider as

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-12 Thread Maciej Izak
12 cze 2015 10:31 Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com napisał(a): I remember mentioned years ago that a docked form editor for AnchorDocking is not implemented in Lazarus yet because it needs proper design and many changes, and thus the CodeTyphon solution was not good enough. I don't

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-12 Thread Balazs Szekely
 Waldo Kitty, Kovács László, thank you for your feedback. It's highly appreciated! From: waldo kitty wkitt...@windstream.net To: lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form On 06/12/2015 02:49 AM, Balazs Szekely wrote

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-12 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2015-06-12 18:55, Juha Manninen wrote: All parts of it were made free a while ago : Nice for Lazarus I guess, but I always feel sad when business ventures around open source projects don't pan out. Maciej seems to have done an amazing job with FreeSparta - extended Lazarus well beyond what I

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-12 Thread aradeonas
As Graeme said its first time I heard about FreeSparta and its really great! wish I saw it sooner but if it will be merged with Lazarus it will be great for Lazarus and us. Anyway thank you for the effort. Regards, Ara -- http://www.fastmail.com - Email service worth paying for. Try it for

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-12 Thread Maciej Izak
2015-06-12 22:28 GMT+02:00 Graeme Geldenhuys mailingli...@geldenhuys.co.uk : Nice for Lazarus I guess, but I always feel sad when business ventures around open source projects don't pan out. I still have a few business ideas :) but not alone... Maciej seems to have done an amazing job with

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-12 Thread Maciej Izak
2015-06-12 18:15 GMT+02:00 Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com: Sounds good but how much are you willing to help with it? I have now time for Lazarus development but I don't know where to look for your docking code or elastic interfaces. We need a patch against Lazarus trunk. Can you

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-12 Thread Juha Manninen
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Maciej Izak hnb.c...@gmail.com wrote: IMO the best option for Lazarus is synergy of solution from CodeTyphon (the way of handling docked form in many platforms) and FreeSparta (elastic interfaces, it handles many usefull events like: Sounds good but how much

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-12 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2015-06-12 14:03, Maciej Izak wrote: FreeSparta (elastic interfaces, it handles many usefull events like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FOjWCLDScQt=264 This is the first time I have seen FreeSparta. Looking at the video, I'm very impressed with the features and changes you have made.

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-12 Thread Balazs Szekely
: Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form 12 cze 2015 10:31 Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com napisał(a): I remember mentioned years ago that a docked form editor for AnchorDocking is not implemented in Lazarus yet because it needs proper design and many changes, and thus the CodeTyphon solution

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-12 Thread waldo kitty
On 06/12/2015 02:49 AM, Balazs Szekely wrote: Hi Sandro, Thank you for forwarding my mail. Yes, I'm registered to the mailing list and I do not understand why my mails end up in spam. Usually I'm able to reply to other peoples mails, but sending new one always fail. your first post with the

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-12 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2015-06-12 17:15, Juha Manninen wrote: I am also impressed by your FreeSparta just like Graeme. I am still hoping we could integrate parts of it to Lazarus. Let's see... I obviously missed something regarding FreeSparta. Is it not a commercial product any more? From the website it seems you

Re: [Lazarus] Docked Form

2015-06-12 Thread Juha Manninen
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys mailingli...@geldenhuys.co.uk wrote: I obviously missed something regarding FreeSparta. Is it not a commercial product any more? From the website it seems you can still purchase the full version for $99 or something. All parts of it were made