2009/8/20 Chris Kirkpatrick :
>>
> This is lovely, but we have lost all the Cut, Copy and Paste options from
> the popup menu in the box.
Oops, that is true. I guess we need to merge the original (default)
popup and the new items. Or simply use the keyboard shortcuts which
should still work.
R
Mattias Gärtner wrote:
I added the popup menu item.
Mattias
This is lovely, but we have lost all the Cut, Copy and Paste options
from the popup menu in the box.
Regards - Chris
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Marco van de Voort schrieb:
And IMHO documentation should be a totally free asset, including publishing
rights. I think the chance is nearly zero to get it with an appopriate
license from Embarcadero.
All we need is an agreement that the information, as available in the OH
files, can be reuse
Mattias Gärtner schrieb:
The other thing that would be nice is a button to include the short
description in the long description text. Lazde has this. I often
start my long description using the same text as the short description.
Normally the long description is shown just below the short de
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:08:06PM +0200, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
> > BTW: If you run Linux and own a copy of Kylix or maybe have the Kylix
> > Open Edition still lying around, you can use it's help directly from
> > the Lazarus IDE. I enabled my Kylix 3 help (as described on the wiki).
> > I n
Mattias Gärtner wrote:
I didn't know that the unit description tags use the same format as
the elements.
Ok, now you can edit it in the fpdoc editor.
Excellent, it works nicely now. Thanks!
Maybe add a new button as indicated in the attached image. But I
think an even better option will
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb:
First of all: Take a look in the wiki log and you will see that every
day things are updated or added.
That's no excuse for the absence of a compact general documentation or
help on all classes, properties and methods. The interfaces don't change
so often, or cannot b
Zitat von Graeme Geldenhuys :
Mattias Gärtner wrote:
One thing the internal fpdoc editor editor cannot do is document a
unit description.
Make a proposal.
Here is an example.[...]
==
String tokenizer library
The TToken tokenizer is extremely
Mattias Gärtner wrote:
One thing the internal fpdoc editor editor cannot do is document a
unit description.
Make a proposal.
Here is an example. The tiTokenLibrary.pas unit documentation. You
cannot edit this with lazde or the internal fpdoc editor. I have to
manually edit this is the xml
Zitat von Graeme Geldenhuys :
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Mattias
Gaertner wrote:
What about the fpdoc editor?
Never used it, I'll try next time I edit help files
The internal fpdoc editor is very nice and doesn't reformat the xml
file. Only down
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Mattias
Gaertner wrote:
What about the fpdoc editor?
Never used it, I'll try next time I edit help files
The internal fpdoc editor is very nice and doesn't reformat the xml
file. Only down side is that the internal fpdoc
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Mattias
Gaertner wrote:
> What about the fpdoc editor?
Never used it, I'll try next time I edit help files
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Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
2009/8/16 Mattias Gaertner :
fpdoc is for sources, not for arbitrary help.
Well the current IDE help in the wiki is very basic and very easily
duplicated in fpdoc. Whatever fpdoc doesn't support, I am sure it
wouldn't be to hard to add that extra functionali
2009/8/16 Mattias Gaertner :
>
> fpdoc is for sources, not for arbitrary help.
Well the current IDE help in the wiki is very basic and very easily
duplicated in fpdoc. Whatever fpdoc doesn't support, I am sure it
wouldn't be to hard to add that extra functionality. At least that way
we can have P
2009/8/16 Hans-Peter Diettrich :
>
>> First of all: Take a look in the wiki log and you will see that every
>> day things are updated or added.
>
> That's no excuse for the absence of a compact general documentation or
> help on all classes, properties and methods. The interfaces don't change
> so
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 23:34:20 +0200
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> 2009/8/16 Mattias Gaertner :
> > Editing the wiki is as easy as editing a text file.
> >
>
> Why couldn't the Lazarus IDE help be in fpdoc format? That way we
> could use the 'lazdoc' editor, or maybe even use the internal fpdoc
> edi
2009/8/16 Mattias Gaertner :
> Editing the wiki is as easy as editing a text file.
>
Why couldn't the Lazarus IDE help be in fpdoc format? That way we
could use the 'lazdoc' editor, or maybe even use the internal fpdoc
editor in some way. Why only online help?
Regards,
- Graeme -
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Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
> That's no excuse for the absence of a compact general documentation or
> help on all classes, properties and methods.
> All contributions should be verified, by people with according
> knowledge, i.e. the implementors in the firs
Mattias Gaertner schrieb:
First of all: Take a look in the wiki log and you will see that every
day things are updated or added.
That's no excuse for the absence of a compact general documentation or
help on all classes, properties and methods. The interfaces don't change
so often, or cannot b
Mattias Gaertner schrieb:
Editing the wiki is as easy as editing a text file.
That doesn't explain why it isn't used by those people, that implement
Lazarus and have all knowledge about what they did :-(
DoDi
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Mattias Gaertner wrote:
What about the fpdoc editor?
Mattias
This thread seems to have changed into one that discusses the provision
of Help for Lazarus, so I'm going to start a new thread.
I am currently trying systematically to produce documentation for all
the classes in the LCL,
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:41:01 +0100
Howard Page-Clark wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:02:07 +0200
> Jürgen Hestermann wrote:
>
> > > See here for some more types of help
> > > http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Creating_IDE_Help
> >
> > I just tried to compile lazde but got the following messag
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:02:07 +0200
Jürgen Hestermann wrote:
> > See here for some more types of help
> > http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Creating_IDE_Help
>
> I just tried to compile lazde but got the following messages:
>
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:04:37 -0300
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
> I usually edit the xml files by hand, because lazde does some changes
> in the xml which make it hard to see in the diff what I actually
> modified.
What about the fpdoc editor?
Mattias
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Make sure and write down, what you know.
Editing the wiki is as easy as editing a text file.
See here for some more types of help
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Creating_IDE_Help
I just tried to compile lazde but got the following messages:
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:41:54 +0200
Jürgen Hestermann wrote:
> >> That's true. But the first step should be to have a usable help at
> >> all. If that's available it should not be too hard to compile it
> >> for offline use somehow.
> > Can you help Chris Kirkpatrick to improve it?
>
> I would l
That's true. But the first step should be to have a usable help at
all. If that's available it should not be too hard to compile it for
offline use somehow.
Can you help Chris Kirkpatrick to improve it?
I would like to but I need the help myself first ;-)
How could I document what I don't know
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:34:21 +0200
Jürgen Hestermann wrote:
> >> Should we say: "Learn Delphi first, then come back here?" :)
> > That's the current state. Without the Delphi documentation and OH
> > every newcomer to Lazarus is definitely lost :-(
>
> That would be a guideline if it worked. But
Jürgen Hestermann wrote:
That's true. But the first step should be to have a usable help at
all. If that's available it should not be too hard to compile it for
offline use somehow.
Can you help Chris Kirkpatrick to improve it?
Best regards,
Paul Ishenin.
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Help should at least be
available in a offline format. I often work at home in a offline
state and I am sure I am not the only one that doesn't have a "always
on" internet connection.
That's true. But the first step should be to have a usable help at all.
If that's available it should not be t
2009/8/16 Jürgen Hestermann :
> forum if in doubt. That's not a satisfiable situation but as long as noone
> hast the time (and knowledge) to update the Lazarus help it seems
> unavoidable.
Not to mention the major problem with Lazarus IDE help. It's only in
wiki form, and only available online. H
Should we say: "Learn Delphi first, then come back here?" :)
That's the current state. Without the Delphi documentation and OH every
newcomer to Lazarus is definitely lost :-(
That would be a guideline if it worked. But the problem is, that you
cannot rely on the Delphi documentation when usin
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Marc Weustink wrote:
I admit a little explenation would help since it is not so trivial.
Thanks for the explanation - definitely not a "general knowledge" thing.
Searching in Google I found no mention of this in any other GUI toolkits
or IDE's - so I gather this is
Mattias Gaertner wrote:
Please create a bug report.
Done: http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=14357
Sergei
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On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:34:32 +0200
Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
> dmitry boyarintsev schrieb:
>
> > What about newcomers?
> > Should we say: "Learn Delphi first, then come back here?" :)
>
> That's the current state. Without the Delphi documentation and OH
> every newcomer to Lazarus is definite
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb:
Does anybody else excluding Paul know what negative fonts sizes mean?
Please answer, I would like to know if I missed something major in my
15+ years of working as a developer.
AFAIR the positive and negative values reflect the inclusion and
exclusion of the "exter
dmitry boyarintsev schrieb:
What about newcomers?
Should we say: "Learn Delphi first, then come back here?" :)
That's the current state. Without the Delphi documentation and OH every
newcomer to Lazarus is definitely lost :-(
Lazarus has been breaking Delphi backward-compatibility for a l
I think it should be like this in Delphi:
Since size and height change the same value with a slightly different
meaning (PPI) whichever value was set,
the other one is rounded and gets a negative value.
If you set size you should get a negative height and vice versa.
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Sergei Gorelkin wrote:
> Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
> >
> > User, yes. programmer: no.
> >
> > As I understood it, the difference is as follows:
> > - Setting size selects the point size of the font, no matter what
> > the DPI is.
> > - Setting height sets the
Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
Am I missing something ?
Yes, why is it an option in the first place? No other application
asks the user for the Font Size or Font Height. If the one can be
calculated from the other, the
- Setting size selects the point size of the font, no matter what the DPI is.
- Setting height sets the pixel size of the font, and then the correct point
size
is calculated (using DPI) so the height is reached.
So it does work the following way:
2.) If I use positive values, it's just the n
Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
User, yes. programmer: no.
As I understood it, the difference is as follows:
- Setting size selects the point size of the font, no matter what the
DPI is.
- Setting height sets the pixel size of the font, and then the correct
point size
is calculated (using DPI)
Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
As I understood it, the difference is as follows:
- Setting size selects the point size of the font, no matter what the
DPI is.
- Setting height sets the pixel size of the font, and then the correct
point size
is calculated (using DPI) so the height is reached.
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
Am I missing something ?
Yes, why is it an option in the first place? No other application asks the
user for the Font Size or Font Height. If the one can be calculated from the
other, then just give us the ONE norma
Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
Am I missing something ?
Yes, why is it an option in the first place? No other application asks the user
for the Font Size or Font Height. If the one can be calculated from the other,
then just give us the ONE normal option - Font Size. Anything else is just
confu
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Vincent Snijders wrote:
Google found for me http://support.microsoft.com/kb/32667
It is not Delphi specific, but has windows roots.
I still don't know how they got to negative font height idea. The Xlib and
Xft font metrics documentation, and
Vincent Snijders wrote:
Google found for me http://support.microsoft.com/kb/32667
It is not Delphi specific, but has windows roots.
I still don't know how they got to negative font height idea. The Xlib and Xft
font metrics documentation, and various other docs on the net, defines font
heig
Marc Weustink wrote:
I admit a little explenation would help since it is not so trivial.
Thanks for the explanation - definitely not a "general knowledge" thing.
Searching in Google I found no mention of this in any other GUI toolkits or IDE's - so I
gather this is a Delphi VCL specific thin
Graeme Geldenhuys schreef:
Jürgen Hestermann wrote:
Does anybody else excluding Paul know what negative fonts sizes mean?
I would like to know that too. I also don't have any idea what
negative font sizes could mean. Ok, that could be due to the fact that
I havened used Delphi heavily and I
Jürgen Hestermann wrote:
Does anybody else excluding Paul know what negative fonts sizes mean?
I would like to know that too. I also don't have any idea what negative
font sizes could mean. Ok, that could be due to the fact that I havened
used Delphi heavily and I am just beginning with Lazar
Jürgen Hestermann wrote:
Does anybody else excluding Paul know what negative fonts sizes mean?
I admit a little explenation would help since it is not so trivial.
A positive fontsize is the size of a font in points
A negative fontsize is the size of a font in points including the
internal le
Does anybody else excluding Paul know what negative fonts sizes mean?
I admit a little explenation would help since it is not so trivial.
A positive fontsize is the size of a font in points
A negative fontsize is the size of a font in points including the
internal leading at the top of the li
Jürgen Hestermann wrote:
Does anybody else excluding Paul know what negative fonts sizes mean?
I would like to know that too. I also don't have any idea what negative
font sizes could mean. Ok, that could be due to the fact that I havened
used Delphi heavily and I am just beginning with Lazar
Does anybody else excluding Paul know what negative fonts sizes mean?
I would like to know that too. I also don't have any idea what negative
font sizes could mean. Ok, that could be due to the fact that I havened
used Delphi heavily and I am just beginning with Lazarus. But even using
help o
Paul Ishenin wrote:
See attached screenshot.
Lazarus is not a tool for any user - it is a tool only for programmers.
Just because there is an inner technical reason for something, does not mean
that needs to be reflected in the user interface.
As an ex-delphi programmer you should know a di
> Lazarus is not a tool for any user - it is a tool only for programmers. As
> an ex-delphi programmer you should know a difference between negative and
> positive font sizes.
What about newcomers?
Should we say: "Learn Delphi first, then come back here?" :)
Lazarus has been breaking Delphi backwa
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Hi,
This is a classic case of seeing a problem for so long that later you
don't even realize it is there. In all my years of working on
computers, Lazarus is the *only* program that specifies font sizes as
a negative values. Why? No other GTK2 application shows font
Hi,
This is a classic case of seeing a problem for so long that later you don't
even realize it is there. In all my years of working on computers, Lazarus is
the *only* program that specifies font sizes as a negative values. Why? No
other GTK2 application shows font sizes as negative values.
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