Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-23 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
michael.vancann...@wisa.be schrieb: There is nothing magic with layout managers, they have to do nothing but arrange their child controls, and to report the minimal and desired sizes to their parent (with AutoSize). Every docking manager already is a layout manager for its site, and its

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-21 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Marco van de Voort schrieb: The project is further badly hindered by the stubborn refusal of the designers to implement Layout Managers. I'm not too deep into the subject, but layout managers are more something of ownerdrawn environments, and as such that is not compatible with the projects

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-21 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Darius Blaszyk schrieb: - implement a basic layout manager. While you're at it could you also integrate it with the design editor? It will make our lives more easy. There exist already a couple of layout managers in the LCL, but they are totally isolated. It had been easy with the recent

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-21 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Darius Blaszyk schrieb: - implement a basic layout manager. While you're at it could you also integrate it with the design editor? It will make our lives more easy. There exist already a couple of layout managers in the LCL, but they are

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-21 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 05:31:35PM +0100, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: designers to implement Layout Managers. I'm not too deep into the subject, but layout managers are more something of ownerdrawn environments, and as such that is not compatible with the projects stated goal of using

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-21 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 20 December 2010 18:31, Hans-Peter Diettrich drdiettri...@aol.com wrote: Marco van de Voort schrieb: I'm not too deep into the subject, but layout managers are more something of ownerdrawn environments, and as such that is not compatible with the projects stated goal of using native

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-21 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 21 December 2010 21:16, Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl wrote: Why should a layout manager ever require ownerdraw? How can you guarantee any consistent positioning otherwise? Positioning a component and setting it's bounds (width, height) in definitely not ownerdrawn. As for as I know

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-20 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 11:15:09AM -0800, Brian Prentice wrote: That is a ridiculous statement and is one of the main reasons why this project is such a miserable failure. All formal releases should be stable. I would label such first release a beta, but the whole lazarus formally still has

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-20 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010, Marco van de Voort wrote: What is needed is a comprehensive test suit that covers all features of Lazarus. Testsuites are the favourite knee-jerk solution for stability problems, but it is a lot harder if the project is visual, and/or the spec is constantly evolving. I

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-20 Thread Henry Vermaak
On 20/12/10 09:44, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: Lazarus IMHO has the best testsuite ever: An active community that points out bugs as soon as they pop up. And this is (for me, at least) a good sign that the project is not a miserable failure. There is a lot of activity in the bug tracker, and

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-19 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sat, 18 Dec 2010, zeljko wrote: On Wednesday 15 December 2010 21:14, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: I didn't pay attention on this the first time, but: the buttons no longer display the images associated with the modal results when a questiondialog is used: - start ide - Start new

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-19 Thread Vincent Snijders
2010/12/18 Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com: To Vincent, This is the exact thing I am talking about. Saying a stable release is a few weeks away, things like this should not be happening in Trunk. The mailing list is full of such reports. I guess I am eager to release when it is

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-19 Thread zeljko
On Sunday 19 December 2010 14:12, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Sat, 18 Dec 2010, zeljko wrote: On Wednesday 15 December 2010 21:14, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: I didn't pay attention on this the first time, but: the buttons no longer display the images associated with the modal

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-19 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sun, 19 Dec 2010, zeljko wrote: On Sunday 19 December 2010 14:12, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Sat, 18 Dec 2010, zeljko wrote: On Wednesday 15 December 2010 21:14, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: I didn't pay attention on this the first time, but: the buttons no longer display the

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-19 Thread Brian Prentice
Vincent, That is a ridiculous statement and is one of the main reasons why this project is such a miserable failure. All formal releases should be stable. What is needed is a comprehensive test suit that covers all features of Lazarus. This test software should be used for regression

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-19 Thread Vincent Snijders
2010/12/19 Brian Prentice bprent...@webenet.net: Vincent, That is a ridiculous statement and is one of the main reasons  why this project is such a miserable failure.  All formal releases should be stable.   What is needed is a comprehensive test suit that covers all features of Lazarus.  

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-19 Thread Max Vlasov
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Brian Prentice bprent...@webenet.netwrote: Vincent, That is a ridiculous statement and is one of the main reasons why this project is such a miserable failure. All formal releases should be stable. Brian, calm down, you have a moral right to have such

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-19 Thread Darius Blaszyk
Hi Brian, It's not my thing normally to reply to rants, but I simply could not resist. From time to time threads lead to discussions where people express their grief with Lazarus (to say it mildly). Perhaps we should create a FAQ on this ;) But to your remarks I can say only this; If you have

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-19 Thread Martin
On 19/12/2010 19:15, Brian Prentice wrote: Vincent, That is a ridiculous statement and is one of the main reasons why this project is such a miserable failure. All formal releases should be stable. What is In my opinion, at best this statement was out of context. It is not unawareness or

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-19 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 18 December 2010 22:56, Sven Barth wrote: When they shouldn't happen in trunk then where do you propose them to happen? Exactly my point. Trunk is UNSTABLE - ALWAYS. So how can Vincent or any other developer think of cutting a stable release directly from Trunk. There is never a

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-19 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 19 December 2010 17:06, zeljko zel...@holobit.net wrote: pls. tell that to Graeme ;) You missed the point I was trying to make Zeljko. -- Regards,   - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-19 Thread Vincent Snijders
2010/12/19 Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com: On 18 December 2010 22:56, Sven Barth wrote: When they shouldn't happen in trunk then where do you propose them to happen? Exactly my point. Trunk is UNSTABLE - ALWAYS. So how can Vincent or any other developer think of cutting a stable

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-19 Thread Henry Vermaak
On 19 December 2010 19:15, Brian Prentice bprent...@webenet.net wrote: Vincent, That is a ridiculous statement and is one of the main reasons  why this project is such a miserable failure. You've failed to explain this premise. How have you come to the conclusion that this project is a

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-19 Thread Sven Barth
On 19.12.2010 21:21, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: And no, I won't take the developer him-/herself should test it good enough Excuse me, but that should happen without saying. If you don't, then something major is wrong in your work process! I'm not saying that the developer should test nothing

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-19 Thread zeljko
On Sunday 19 December 2010 22:07, Sven Barth wrote: programs for such things could be written... but here the same problem applies as in every open source project: someone has to do it... +1 -- ___ Lazarus mailing list

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-18 Thread zeljko
On Wednesday 15 December 2010 21:14, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: I didn't pay attention on this the first time, but: the buttons no longer display the images associated with the modal results when a questiondialog is used: - start ide - Start new project - Move main form Close IDE.

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-18 Thread patspiper
On 12/18/2010 07:32 PM, zeljko wrote: On Wednesday 15 December 2010 21:14, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: I didn't pay attention on this the first time, but: the buttons no longer display the images associated with the modal results when a questiondialog is used: - start ide - Start new

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-18 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
To Vincent, This is the exact thing I am talking about. Saying a stable release is a few weeks away, things like this should not be happening in Trunk. The mailing list is full of such reports. Regards, - Graeme - On 15 December 2010 11:34, michael.vancann...@ wrote: Hi, I just

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-18 Thread Sven Barth
On 18.12.2010 21:38, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: To Vincent, This is the exact thing I am talking about. Saying a stable release is a few weeks away, things like this should not be happening in Trunk. The mailing list is full of such reports. When they shouldn't happen in trunk then where do

[Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-15 Thread michael . vancanneyt
Hi, I just upgraded to revision 28712 of Lazarus, and really almost all message dialogs are messed up. Sometimes, the button captions make no sense whatsoever. Every message (or question) dialog I encountered seems affected by this. Just one example, after execution: Execution stopped: Yes

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-15 Thread Paul Ishenin
15.12.2010 16:34, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: I just upgraded to revision 28712 of Lazarus, and really almost all message dialogs are messed up. Sometimes, the button captions make no sense whatsoever. Every message (or question) dialog I encountered seems affected by this. Just one

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-15 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010, Paul Ishenin wrote: 15.12.2010 16:34, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: I just upgraded to revision 28712 of Lazarus, and really almost all message dialogs are messed up. Sometimes, the button captions make no sense whatsoever. Every message (or question) dialog I

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-15 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
I can reproduce in gtk 2 / x86 -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-15 Thread Paul Ishenin
15.12.2010 16:41, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: Linux 64-bit, GTK 2 But I would be very surprised if it was widget set dependent ? Not long ago we rewrote QuestionDlg function to use native dialog function when possible (to make IDE and other LCL applications look more standard). Of

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-15 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010, Paul Ishenin wrote: 15.12.2010 16:41, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: Linux 64-bit, GTK 2 But I would be very surprised if it was widget set dependent ? Not long ago we rewrote QuestionDlg function to use native dialog function when possible (to make IDE and other

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-15 Thread zeljko
On Wednesday 15 December 2010 10:34, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: Hi, I just upgraded to revision 28712 of Lazarus, and really almost all message dialogs are messed up. Sometimes, the button captions make no sense whatsoever. Every message (or question) dialog I encountered seems

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-15 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010, zeljko wrote: On Wednesday 15 December 2010 10:34, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: Hi, I just upgraded to revision 28712 of Lazarus, and really almost all message dialogs are messed up. Sometimes, the button captions make no sense whatsoever. Every message (or

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-15 Thread zeljko
On Wednesday 15 December 2010 16:00, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: When project information file changes: Project changed on disk The project information file sopmefile has changed on disk. Ignore yes No question, and 'Ignore', 'yes'. ahhhButtons[].Caption should be used in

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-15 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010, zeljko wrote: On Wednesday 15 December 2010 16:00, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: When project information file changes: Project changed on disk The project information file sopmefile has changed on disk. Ignore yes No question, and 'Ignore', 'yes'.

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-15 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Wed, 15 Dec 2010, zeljko wrote: On Wednesday 15 December 2010 16:00, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: When project information file changes: Project changed on disk The project information file sopmefile has changed on disk. Ignore

Re: [Lazarus] Message dialogs in Lazarus

2010-12-15 Thread zeljko
On Wednesday 15 December 2010 21:14, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: On Wed, 15 Dec 2010, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Wed, 15 Dec 2010, zeljko wrote: On Wednesday 15 December 2010 16:00, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: When project information file changes: Project changed on disk