Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-09 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Burkhard Carstens schrieb: I'd like to buy a sweatshirt, a mousepad and 3 mugs. Unfortunately, neither visa nor paypal are acceptable methods of payment for me. I prefer to get a bill with my stuff. If that's impossible, I'd also accept paying per Nachnahme. That's C.O.D. (Cash On Delivery)

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-09 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Joost van der Sluis schrieb: Lazarus and Free Pascal are really driven by volunteers, and so those who offer support (Like on the LazarusSupport website) have their own website. It would not be fair to place links to LazarusSupport as if it was also from the main teams. It's not a matter of

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-09 Thread Burkhard Carstens
Am Dienstag, 7. Dezember 2010 20:40 schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich: Burkhard Carstens schrieb: I'd like to buy a sweatshirt, a mousepad and 3 mugs. Unfortunately, neither visa nor paypal are acceptable methods of payment for me. I prefer to get a bill with my stuff. If that's impossible, I'd

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-07 Thread Lukasz Sokol
On 06/12/2010 20:11, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis wrote: Στις 6/12/2010 9:57 μμ, ο/η Vincent Snijders έγραψε: This mail, http://www.mail-archive.com/laza...@miraclec.com/msg06878.html is stil up to date. Users, feel free to unite and create a foundation. It's not that simple otherwise it will

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-07 Thread Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis
Στις 7/12/2010 10:52 πμ, ο/η Lukasz Sokol έγραψε: On 06/12/2010 20:11, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis wrote: Στις 6/12/2010 9:57 μμ, ο/η Vincent Snijders έγραψε: This mail, http://www.mail-archive.com/laza...@miraclec.com/msg06878.html is stil up to date. Users, feel free to unite and create a

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus [EOT]

2010-12-07 Thread Lukasz Sokol
I should not reply either, but as you are indirectly telling me I am stupid and ignorant, sprinkling it with wikipedia definitions like they grew on trees then I have nothing else to say than WELCOME TO MY KILLFILE. I shall never read anything you post again, as it is worthless, empty and

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-07 Thread Vincent Snijders
2010/12/7 Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis dioanni...@artesoft.gr: Στις 7/12/2010 10:52 πμ, ο/η Lukasz Sokol έγραψε: On 06/12/2010 20:11, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis wrote: Στις 6/12/2010 9:57 μμ, ο/η Vincent Snijders έγραψε: This mail, http://www.mail-archive.com/laza...@miraclec.com/msg06878.html

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus [EOT]

2010-12-07 Thread Lukasz Sokol
Oh by the way, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plonk_%28Usenet%29 L. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus [EOT]

2010-12-07 Thread Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis
Στις 7/12/2010 11:52 πμ, ο/η Lukasz Sokol έγραψε: I should not reply either, but as you are indirectly telling me I am stupid and ignorant, sprinkling it with wikipedia definitions like they grew on trees then I have nothing else to say than I trully apologize if my mail implied that you're

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-07 Thread Max Vlasov
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Hans-Peter Diettrich drdiettri...@aol.comwrote: Alexsander Rosa schrieb: Back to the topic: I think the Lazarus project could SELL products like this: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=648 Ubuntu also has a service called Ubuntu

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Op 2010-12-05 11:28, Bo Berglund het geskryf: You are referring to a webpage which holds no information as to WHAT Firebird really is. It contains loads of info like many other A kind suggestion: Have your eyes tested very soon. In the title of that website, even

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Alexsander Rosa
Back to the topic: I think the Lazarus project could SELL products like this: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=648 Ubuntu also has a service called Ubuntu Advantage which gives advantages to enterprises that choose to pay a fee, like a network admin tool, a 24/7 support

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Vincent Snijders
2010/12/6 Alexsander Rosa alexsander.r...@gmail.com Back to the topic: I think the Lazarus project could SELL products like this: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=648 You mean like: http://www.cafepress.com/miraclec Michael, how many did you sell over the years?

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Alexsander Rosa
Here in Brazil there's an online store called Loja Geek that sells -- among other things -- open-source related t-shirts with nice designs. They even have a section called Languages and Development: http://www.lojageek.com/projetos-livres/linguagens-desenvolvimento.html I've googled their

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Am 06.12.2010 13:46, schrieb Alexsander Rosa: Back to the topic: I think the Lazarus project could SELL products like this: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=648 Ubuntu also has a service called Ubuntu Advantage which gives advantages to enterprises that choose to pay a

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Alexsander Rosa
Both Ubuntu links are very easy to find at www.ubuntu.com website. Compare that to www.lazarus.freepascal.org website. 2010/12/6 Florian Klaempfl flor...@freepascal.org Am 06.12.2010 13:46, schrieb Alexsander Rosa: Back to the topic: I think the Lazarus project could SELL products like

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread zeljko
On Monday 06 December 2010 14:02, Vincent Snijders wrote: 2010/12/6 Alexsander Rosa alexsander.r...@gmail.com Back to the topic: I think the Lazarus project could SELL products like this: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=648 You mean like:

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Vincent Snijders
2010/12/6 zeljko zel...@holobit.net: On Monday 06 December 2010 14:02, Vincent Snijders wrote: 2010/12/6 Alexsander Rosa alexsander.r...@gmail.com Back to the topic: I think the Lazarus project could SELL products like this: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=648 You

[Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus (THE IMPORTANT PART)

2010-12-06 Thread Osvaldo Filho
Please, see the important part: Thus next time *you*’ll be deploying your application with ... *(LAZARUS)*, think about sending $10 or even $1. I bet it’s nothing for you (compared to price of the application or money you’re paying for toilet paper in your office). And ten thousand people (not

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Michael A. Hess
2010/12/6 Alexsander Rosa alexsander.r...@gmail.com Back to the topic: I think the Lazarus project could SELL products like this: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=648 You mean like: http://www.cafepress.com/miraclec Michael, how many did you sell over the years?

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 10:46 -0200, Alexsander Rosa wrote: Back to the topic: I think the Lazarus project could SELL products like this: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=648 Ubuntu also has a service called Ubuntu Advantage which gives advantages to enterprises that

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 11:49 -0200, Alexsander Rosa wrote: Both Ubuntu links are very easy to find at www.ubuntu.com website. Compare that to www.lazarus.freepascal.org website. Yes, but the big difference is that Ubuntu is in fact a commercial company. So they can offer the support on their

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Alexsander Rosa
I see the service part of the so-called money model is ok, then. We have only to improve and/or create a cool LOGO to sell more apparel. Take a look at some other programming tools logos I've found online: Delphi (auto parts) http://delphi.com/images/app/logoDelphiMain.gif (cool) Embarcadero

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Lukasz Sokol
On 06/12/2010 16:50, Alexsander Rosa wrote: I see the service part of the so-called money model is ok, then. We have only to improve and/or create a cool LOGO to sell more apparel. Take a look at some other programming tools logos I've found online: Delphi (auto parts)

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Burkhard Carstens
Am Montag, 6. Dezember 2010 16:58 schrieb Michael A. Hess: 2010/12/6 Alexsander Rosa alexsander.r...@gmail.com Back to the topic: I think the Lazarus project could SELL products like this: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=648 You mean like:

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-06 Thread Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis
Στις 6/12/2010 9:57 μμ, ο/η Vincent Snijders έγραψε: 2010/12/6 Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidisdioanni...@artesoft.gr: This is why a Free Pascal / Lazarus/ FPL / ObjectFlorian Pascal ( ;) ) ( pick your TLA ) Foundation comes in sight ... This mail,

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-05 Thread Bo Berglund
On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 22:58:43 +, Henry Vermaak henry.verm...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 December 2010 22:29, Bo Berglund bo.bergl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2 Dec 2010 18:19:12 -0300, Osvaldo Filho arquivos...@gmail.com wrote: Is Firebird really free? What exactly is FIREBIRD

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-05 Thread Bo Berglund
On Thu, 2 Dec 2010 18:19:12 -0300, Osvaldo Filho arquivos...@gmail.com wrote: And by the way, Firebird is not “just” engine, but tools around too: .NET driver [image: ;)] , Java driver, documentation, QA, …, you name it. OK, but what is then the purpose of the Firebird engine It seems to be

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-05 Thread Vincent Snijders
2010/12/5 Bo Berglund bo.bergl...@gmail.com: On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 22:58:43 +, Henry Vermaak henry.verm...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 December 2010 22:29, Bo Berglund bo.bergl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2 Dec 2010 18:19:12 -0300, Osvaldo Filho arquivos...@gmail.com wrote: Is Firebird really

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-05 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Bo Berglund wrote: On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 22:58:43 +, Henry Vermaak henry.verm...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 December 2010 22:29, Bo Berglund bo.bergl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2 Dec 2010 18:19:12 -0300, Osvaldo Filho arquivos...@gmail.com wrote: Is Firebird really free? What exactly is

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-05 Thread Andreas Schneider
On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 10:31:01 +0100, Bo Berglund bo.bergl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2 Dec 2010 18:19:12 -0300, Osvaldo Filho arquivos...@gmail.com wrote: And by the way, Firebird is not “just” engine, but tools around too: .NET driver [image: ;)] , Java driver, documentation, QA, …, you name

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-05 Thread Henry Vermaak
On 5 December 2010 09:28, Bo Berglund bo.bergl...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 22:58:43 +, Henry Vermaak henry.verm...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 December 2010 22:29, Bo Berglund bo.bergl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2 Dec 2010 18:19:12 -0300, Osvaldo Filho arquivos...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-05 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Andreas Schneider ak...@gmx.de wrote: Sorry to say so, but your comprehension skills seem to be pretty low. Please read the message again (and again, and again), it is NOT about Firebird and/or its internals, it is about an Open Source Project and its financing

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-05 Thread Paul Ishenin
06.12.2010 14:30, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: ... Next time, read the website information in detail or use other Google links, before you make another fool of yourself. Graeme, I think you are a bit angry last time. Best regards, Paul Ishenin -- ___

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-05 Thread Dave Coventry
On 6 December 2010 09:38, Paul Ishenin i...@kmiac.ru wrote: 06.12.2010 14:30, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: ... Next time, read the website information in detail or use other Google links, before you make another fool of yourself. Graeme, I think you are a bit angry last time. Best regards,

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-03 Thread Bo Berglund
On Thu, 2 Dec 2010 18:19:12 -0300, Osvaldo Filho arquivos...@gmail.com wrote: Is Firebird really free? What exactly is FIREBIRD Something connected to Lazarus or FreePascal? -- Bo Berglund Developer in Sweden -- ___ Lazarus mailing list

Re: [Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-03 Thread Henry Vermaak
On 3 December 2010 22:29, Bo Berglund bo.bergl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2 Dec 2010 18:19:12 -0300, Osvaldo Filho arquivos...@gmail.com wrote: Is Firebird really free? What exactly is FIREBIRD http://lmgtfy.com/?q=firebirdl=1 -- ___ Lazarus

[Lazarus] OFFTOPIC: Money Model, for Lazarus

2010-12-02 Thread Osvaldo Filho
Is Firebird really free? If you’re expecting some sensation, I’ll not make you happy. Shortly, yes, Firebird is free, completely. You can use it wherever you want and you don’t have to pay anything nor release sources of your application nor … On the other hand, the whole truth, considering all