Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 1/18/16, Lukasz Sokol wrote: > I'm with Howard here (and Matthias). It should be a default No if a change > can not be reversed by just Ctrl-Z or Undo. Obey widgetset behaviour. > if a change > can not be reversed by just Ctrl-Z or Undo. Implement Undo for the

Re: [Lazarus] Testing Unicode and Windows system codepage in Lazarus 1.6

On 1/18/16, Jürgen Hestermann wrote: > Now that is cynical! No it is not. Lazarus has taken the direction of using the new UTF8 system. Most of us do not use the DisableUtf8 feature at all, since we don't need it. Hence we have no experience. Users who want that

Re: [Lazarus] Opening non existing files and (not) adding them to the project

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: > It works here on GTK2/Ubuntu. I can choose a non existing file. I guess you mean you can type a name of a non existing file. You cannot choose it because by definition it does not exist. I have Xubuntu 15.10

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 18/01/16 10:36, Ondrej Pokorny wrote: > On 18.01.2016 10:42, Lukasz Sokol wrote: >> Then maybe make the 'No' answer default here? > > No. If I hit delete, I want to delete the button. The prompt is OK > there but the default action should always be what you want to do -> > "yes". Don't assume

Re: [Lazarus] Opening non existing files and (not) adding them to the project

Am 18.01.2016 12:11 schrieb "Juha Manninen" : > Can you find what revision caused the original problem you described? I'll try to. Regards, Sven -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org

Re: [Lazarus] Opening non existing files and (not) adding them to the project

On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 14:58:35 +0200 Juha Manninen wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Mattias Gaertner > wrote: > > It works here on GTK2/Ubuntu. I can choose a non existing file. > > I guess you mean you can type a name of a non

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 18.01.2016 14:03, Lukasz Sokol wrote: Btw. Howard had the "No" button default but I changed it. I'm with Howard here (and Matthias As far as I understood Mattias' email, he did not say the dialog should default to "Yes". Btw. I checked when deleting files in the default file manager

Re: [Lazarus] Testing Unicode and Windows system codepage in Lazarus 1.6

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 8:20 AM, Jürgen Hestermann wrote: > Now that is cynical! > Telling those who do not know anything about what > has been developed over the last years > to write the documentation theirselfs. No, my point is that I will not continue doing it.

Re: [Lazarus] Web vs desktop development

On 01/18/2016 11:26 AM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: The bad idea was that HTML became the standard for remote GUI. HTML = HyperText Markup Language And a web GUI is anything but text these days. ... requiring a decently statefull (instead of connection-less) protocol -Michael --

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:36:57 +0100 Ondrej Pokorny wrote: > On 18.01.2016 10:42, Lukasz Sokol wrote: > > Then maybe make the 'No' answer default here? > > No. If I hit delete, I want to delete the button. The prompt is OK there > but the default action should always be what

Re: [Lazarus] Docking search results

On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Ondrej Pokorny wrote: > No, it is not. It is opened if you saved your desktop with search result > dialog opened. If you saved your desktop with search result dialog closed, > it won't be opened. > If you have enabled "auto save desktop" option

Re: [Lazarus] Web vs desktop development

On 01/18/2016 01:41 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: 1. Most websites are unusable without Javascript The HTTP protocol cripples TCT/IP disallowing the server to spontaneously send anything . So without scrip the browser is dead by design. -Michael (IMHO, http was the worst idea ever...)

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 18.01.2016 10:42, Lukasz Sokol wrote: Then maybe make the 'No' answer default here? No. If I hit delete, I want to delete the button. The prompt is OK there but the default action should always be what you want to do -> "yes". Don't assume that people are dumb :) Btw. Howard had the "No"

Re: [Lazarus] Web vs desktop development

On 2016-01-18 10:22, Dariusz Mazur wrote: > on web much less data ar drawn from serwer That is debatable. Back in the day (circa 1994) loading a web page with stacks of content was in the region of 100-200KB max. Now you load a page with hardly any content and it is a 5-8MB download!! When last

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 16/01/16 23:11, Howard wrote: [...] > In this particular instance of deleting a submenu (not just a single > item) my motivation was not to make it overly complicated (though I > appreciate it may seem so). It is quite possible a user may have > spent 10 minutes designing a submenu with half a

Re: [Lazarus] Web vs desktop development

On 01/15/2016 06:29 PM, Anthony Walter wrote: On a programming web forum someone said regarding Lazarus: On just cursory review, looks compelling. However, I get so little call these days for native/desktop applications. Seems everyone wants web now. Of course it would be great if Lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] Web vs desktop development

On 2016-01-15 19:01, Dmitry Boyarintsev wrote: On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Anthony Walter > wrote: For businesses web development is probably a better fit for their software needs. For people who are computer enthusiasts that use

Re: [Lazarus] Web vs desktop development

El 15/01/2016 a las 18:29, Anthony Walter escribió: > On a programming web forum someone said regarding Lazarus: > > On just cursory review, looks compelling. However, I get so little > call these days for native/desktop applications. Seems everyone wants > web now. I posted a message time ago in

Re: [Lazarus] Web vs desktop development

Am 18.01.2016 11:05 schrieb "Michael Schnell" : > > On 01/18/2016 01:41 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: >> >> 1. Most websites are unusable without Javascript > > > The HTTP protocol cripples TCT/IP disallowing the server to spontaneously send anything . > > So without scrip the

Re: [Lazarus] Web vs desktop development

On 01/18/2016 11:13 AM, Sven Barth wrote: The requirements back then were different. You didn't have highly interactive code running in the browser like you have today and for that HTTP was perfect. Of course you are right. The consequence being that a new protocol (not connection-less)

Re: [Lazarus] Web vs desktop development

On 2016-01-18 09:48, Santiago A. wrote: > not true any more. Even in windows there are incompatibilities with > previous versions (i.e. fonts size make w95 forms not fitting in W10). I have no such problem with true fpGUI based applications (no LCL involved). > Do you want to make an application

Re: [Lazarus] Can I build a Lazarus GUI program only with fpc installed?

On 01/17/2016 09:09 AM, Bo Berglund wrote: If I install only fpc is it then possible to build a GUI program from sources without also installing Lazarus (on Linux target)? Of course: if you create your of GUI. Alternatively you can also use MSE instead of Lazarus (I suppose there are some

Re: [Lazarus] Web vs desktop development

On Mon, 18 Jan 2016, Sven Barth wrote: Am 18.01.2016 11:05 schrieb "Michael Schnell" : On 01/18/2016 01:41 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: 1. Most websites are unusable without Javascript The HTTP protocol cripples TCT/IP disallowing the server to spontaneously send

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 18/01/16 15:20, Ondrej Pokorny wrote: > On 18.01.2016 14:03, Lukasz Sokol wrote: >>> Btw. Howard had the "No" button default but I changed it. >>> >> I'm with Howard here (and Matthias > > As far as I understood Mattias' email, he did not say the dialog > should default to "Yes". Heh you're

[Lazarus] fpc trunk fails "make all"

While trying to "make all" of fpc on Window I am receiving and error on: make -C packages clean The error message is: make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. Here is the more output in context: C:/Development/build/fpc.3.0.0/bin/i386-win32/rm.exe -f fpcmade.i386-win32 Package.fpc

[Lazarus] Debugging in Libraries.

Hi All: I have encountered a problem doing things that used to work. (Using Lazarus 1.4.4 on Linux and 1.4.2 on Raspbian) Specifically, I can no longer step into subprograms in library units, and when I set a breakpoint in the library code it is colored dull green as opposed to bright red

Re: [Lazarus] Web vs desktop development

On 01/18/2016 12:00 PM, Dariusz Mazur wrote: We write our business application as web from several years. Its the same as desktop version, and development are done parallel as 90% of both version have the same source code. And i have some others consideration: In a perfect world, the LCL

Re: [Lazarus] Opening non existing files and (not) adding them to the project

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:05 AM, Sven Barth wrote: > Don't shock me like that, Juha. > > The IDE actively asks me whether I want to create a new file if I open a non > existing one and it should definitely stay that way. Ok, you and Mattias are right. The OpenDialog

Re: [Lazarus] Web vs desktop development

On 2016-01-17 02:10, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 2016-01-15 17:29, Anthony Walter wrote: For businesses web development is probably a better fit for their software needs. Yes in a way I see that, but having worked in the past (2014) in a 100% web based company developing online banking and

Re: [Lazarus] Web vs desktop development

On 2016-01-18 11:52, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 2016-01-18 10:22, Dariusz Mazur wrote: on web much less data ar drawn from serwer That is debatable. Back in the day (circa 1994) loading a web page with stacks of content was in the region of 100-200KB max. Now you load a page with hardly any

Re: [Lazarus] Opening non existing files and (not) adding them to the project

On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 13:11:08 +0200 Juha Manninen wrote: >[...] > Anyway the file open dialogs in GTK2 and QT don't respect the omitted > ofFileMustExist flag. They behave like it was set. That is another bug > clearly. It works here on GTK2/Ubuntu. I can choose a non

Re: [Lazarus] New menu designer. which style do you prefer?

On 18.01.2016 15:51, Bart wrote: Implement Undo for the menu-desgner will be on the wish list then. +1. Changing properties in OI and deleting components already are supported by the Undo function. The menu editor should support it as well. Ondrej --

Re: [Lazarus] Opening non existing files and (not) adding them to the project

Am 18.01.2016 12:11 schrieb "Juha Manninen" : > Can you find what revision caused the original problem you described? Seems like it was more PEBKAC than anything else. The thing is I normally use this when I work with the compiler and there I add my tests to a directory

Re: [Lazarus] fpc trunk fails "make all"

Am 18.01.2016 18:52 schrieb "Anthony Walter" : > > While trying to "make all" of fpc on Window I am receiving and error on: > > make -C packages clean > > The error message is: > > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. Such questions are better asked on fpc-pascal.

Re: [Lazarus] Testing Unicode and Windows system codepage in Lazarus 1.6

2016.01.17. 12:34 keltezéssel, Juha Manninen írta: Feedback please. Hi, A complicated example: Label1.Caption:=WideChar($25BD); With fixes_1_4(and FPC 3.0.0) I see a question mark on the screen, with fixes_1_6 I see the wanted "WHITE DOWN-POINTING TRIANGLE". I am happy with fixes_1_6!

Re: [Lazarus] Testing Unicode and Windows system codepage in Lazarus 1.6

2016.01.18. 23:20 keltezéssel, Bart írta: With or without -dDisableUTF8RTL ? Checkout, make bigide. I did not change anything. Gabor -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org

Re: [Lazarus] Debugging in Libraries.

On 18/01/2016 18:34, Donald Ziesig wrote: Hi All: I have encountered a problem doing things that used to work. (Using Lazarus 1.4.4 on Linux and 1.4.2 on Raspbian) Specifically, I can no longer step into subprograms in library units, and when I set a breakpoint in the library code it is

Re: [Lazarus] Debugging in Libraries.

On 01/18/2016 03:13 PM, Martin Frb wrote: On 18/01/2016 18:34, Donald Ziesig wrote: Hi All: I have encountered a problem doing things that used to work. (Using Lazarus 1.4.4 on Linux and 1.4.2 on Raspbian) Specifically, I can no longer step into subprograms in library units, and when I set

Re: [Lazarus] Debugging in Libraries.

On 18/01/2016 20:51, Donald Ziesig wrote: ensure you disable "inlining" where? there may be an option to fpc I place {$INLINE OFF}(IIRC) in units that need it -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org

Re: [Lazarus] Testing Unicode and Windows system codepage in Lazarus 1.6

On 1/18/16, Gabor Boros wrote: > A complicated example: > > Label1.Caption:=WideChar($25BD); > > With fixes_1_4(and FPC 3.0.0) I see a question mark on the screen, with > fixes_1_6 I see the wanted "WHITE DOWN-POINTING TRIANGLE". > I am happy with fixes_1_6! :-) With or