Re: [Lcms-user] Soft proofing problems with gamut checks

2016-11-07 Thread Elle Stone
On 11/03/2016 05:59 PM, marti.ma...@littlecms.com wrote: > > > Hi Elle, > > You are right, gamut check was not intended to work in unbounded mode > and also, due to the way it works, it needs a space perceptually uniform > to perform good. This is because gamut check uses a LUT driven by CIE > L*a*

Re: [Lcms-user] Soft proofing problems with gamut checks

2016-11-04 Thread Elle Stone
On 11/03/2016 05:59 PM, marti.ma...@littlecms.com wrote: > You are right, gamut check was not intended to work in unbounded mode > and also, due to the way it works, it needs a space perceptually uniform > to perform good. This is because gamut check uses a LUT driven by CIE > L*a*b* to hold the di

Re: [Lcms-user] Soft proofing problems with gamut checks

2016-11-03 Thread marti . maria
Hi Elle, You are right, gamut check was not intended to work in unbounded mode and also, due to the way it works, it needs a space perceptually uniform to perform good. This is because gamut check uses a LUT driven by CIE L*a*b* to hold the distance of each color to gamut boundary. Works

Re: [Lcms-user] Soft proofing problems with gamut checks

2016-11-03 Thread Elle Stone
On 08/10/2016 06:27 AM, Elle Stone wrote: > Hi Marti and all, > > When soft proofing with high bit depth GIMP, which uses LCMS, the gamut > check isn't reliable. I've confirmed some of the issues using tificc at > the command line, so it's not GIMP code per se. > > 1. When using the gamut check, wh

Re: [Lcms-user] Soft proofing problems when the destination profile supports unbounded profile conversions

2016-08-17 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus
Am Mittwoch, 17. August 2016, 13:32:51 CEST schrieb Marti Maria: > > don't you just have to introduce a range model of the media being proofed > > ? > > Hi Graeme, neat idea. And while I was trying to implement that, I found a > solution that seems simpler to me. > > What about a function like t

Re: [Lcms-user] Soft proofing problems when the destination profile supports unbounded profile conversions

2016-08-17 Thread Marti Maria
e agosto de 2016 2:23 To: LCMS mailing list Subject: Re: [Lcms-user] Soft proofing problems when the destination profile supports unbounded profile conversions Marti Maria wrote: > Anybody else on that? I would like to know what lcms users think and > eventually modify the behavior for nex

Re: [Lcms-user] Soft proofing problems when the destination profile supports unbounded profile conversions

2016-08-11 Thread Graeme Gill
Marti Maria wrote: > Anybody else on that? I would like to know what lcms users think and > eventually modify the behavior for next release. Hi Marti, don't you just have to introduce a range model of the media being proofed ? For (say) printed media, the corresponding model would clip

Re: [Lcms-user] Soft proofing problems when the destination profile supports unbounded profile conversions

2016-08-11 Thread Elle Stone
On 08/11/2016 06:31 AM, Marti Maria wrote: > > Hello Elle et al, > > I've been considering the case and here are some thoughts. > > I understand that when softproofing some "perfect" profiles would be nice > to return gamut clip, no matter the profile does not apply this clip in > unbounded mode.

Re: [Lcms-user] Soft proofing problems when the destination profile supports unbounded profile conversions

2016-08-11 Thread Marti Maria
Hello Elle et al, I've been considering the case and here are some thoughts. I understand that when softproofing some "perfect" profiles would be nice to return gamut clip, no matter the profile does not apply this clip in unbounded mode. The amount of changes in lcms code to implement this i

Re: [Lcms-user] Soft proofing problems when the destination profile supports unbounded profile conversions

2016-08-10 Thread Elle Stone
On 08/10/2016 06:55 AM, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: > That's exactly what I asked for a while ago. It seems that Marti isn't > convinced of that idea. :-( > > https://sourceforge.net/p/lcms/mailman/message/35215540/ Hi Tobias, I was hoping maybe some additional pleading and begging might help :) .

Re: [Lcms-user] Soft proofing problems when the destination profile supports unbounded profile conversions

2016-08-10 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus
Am Mittwoch, 10. August 2016, 06:23:51 CEST schrieb Elle Stone: [...] >Would it be possible to put in a flag for soft proofing that says > "after transforming to the destination profile clip the channel values > to fit within the bounded color gamut of the destination color space, > even

Re: [Lcms-user] Soft proofing

2007-01-29 Thread Kai-Uwe Behrmann
Hello Udi, you are right a mixing of profiles in a chain together with a proofing profile has not an own function. Nethertheless there are some workarounds possible. You may basically create a cmsCreateMultiprofileTransform, convert to a device link with cmsTransform2DeviceLink and use this in