Re: [Leaf-devel] IP-Masq'ing question

2001-04-21 Thread Jack Coates
The only way I can see this working is if you: a) know and define the subnet the fixed addresses will be in b) don't ever need to get to that subnet on the Internet (or at least not at the same time as you're using a wireless device). Better ways: DHCP. It's pretty easy to write a .bat or .sh

Re: [Leaf-devel] IP-Masq'ing question

2001-04-21 Thread Scott C. Best
Jack: Hurm. I know that I can't assure you of "a". In fact, quite the opposite: I have no idea what people will be bringing into the wireless LAN. On the other hand, I can safely assure you of "b". Can see your point: if I alias the internal interface to some other subnet's

Re: Off-list Re: [Leaf-devel] Updating Eigerstein

2001-04-21 Thread Ewald Wasscher
Eric Wolzak wrote: Hello Ewald, Charles Is anyone working on this already? If not I will have a start this weekend, or perhaps when I return from work tonight. If you prefer someone else's work please tell me so; it will save me some superfluous work. yep, sort of. Argh, I have

Re: Off-list Re: [Leaf-devel] Updating Eigerstein

2001-04-21 Thread Eric Wolzak
I think that should be the first goal. It would of course be very interesting to create a truly linux 2.4 based distribution, but it will hardly be eigerstein I think (though rather cool) The special part of eigerstein is in effect the script to setup the firewall. This is based on

Re: Off-list Re: [Leaf-devel] Updating Eigerstein

2001-04-21 Thread David Douthitt
Eric Wolzak wrote: Greetings to all of you. Ook ewald de groeten :) Greetings to all, and to Eric: Gruesse aus Holland (hmm, where did you read that before :-) in my schoolbooks ;) ,I am dutch but live in Germany since 1984. Ewald P.S. Eric; I live only 5 KM from the

Re: [Leaf-devel] CVS Distribution Administration Models.........

2001-04-21 Thread Mike Noyes
George Metz, 2001-04-20 21:23 -0400 On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: In case of emergency, Eric and I already worked out a way to backup individual CVS trees. Excellent idea all around. We should probably have the CVS tree backed up on a semi-regular basis; if it's necessary, I have

Re: Off-list Re: [Leaf-devel] Updating Eigerstein

2001-04-21 Thread Ewald Wasscher
Eric Wolzak wrote: okay time for CVS :) Hmm, and hwo are we going te set this up? Currently there are lots of binaries in my eigerstein2beta tree for which I don't have (yet) the source code. Should there be seperate source and binaries trees? It would be really nice to do a "cvs co" and

Re: [Leaf-devel] IP-Masq'ing question

2001-04-21 Thread Jack Coates
I don't think it's going to work, then. "On the fly" reconfiguration would mean downing the interface everytime a new machine joined the wireless LAN, which would get really annoying to the users. But if you treat the LAN like the Internet (0.0.0.0/0) then you can't route to it. Actually, that

Re: [Leaf-devel] File Systems (was: CVS structure)

2001-04-21 Thread Mike Noyes
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 2001-04-20 18:03 -0700 On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: This still doesn't explain why Debian is trying to do the following for their boot floppies. http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot-0102/msg00435.html ~ Build in crams and ramfs. We're going to boot off of a

Re: [Leaf-devel] IP-Masq'ing question

2001-04-21 Thread Jack Coates
actually, better depiction and idea improvements: wireless area Internet | | LRP LRP | | ---LAN- Both LRP's masq, both LRP's treat the top interface as default network. Wireless LRP forwards

Re: [Leaf-devel] File Systems (was: CVS structure)

2001-04-21 Thread Jack Coates
ext2fs would be handy, but it makes things harder on the Windows users. I think vfat is the best thing to do. I use vfat in my kernel -- it's 15K in 2.2, 16K in 2.4. UPX would turn that into .003 bytes, right :-) -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: It's what's for dinner! On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Mike

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-21 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
It'd be interesting to see how much each option affected size, but overall a 411K 2.4 kernel is VERY COOL, and should be quite usable for floppy firewalls. While I'd like to see a 'one size fits all' kernel, perhaps there could be a floppy only, minimal kernel, and a larger kernel with

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-21 Thread David Douthitt
Charles Steinkuehler wrote: Well, I generall think almost EVERYTHING should be modules. You can regain IDE support for booting by adding the modules to the initial ramdisk (the linuxrc mods I posted a while ago for my SCSI-RAID support do this). When I first compiled kernels for LRP, I used

Re: [Leaf-devel] File Systems (was: CVS structure)

2001-04-21 Thread jdnewmil
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2001-04-20 18:03 -0700 On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: This still doesn't explain why Debian is trying to do the following for their boot floppies. http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot-0102/msg00435.html ~ Build in

Re: [Leaf-devel] File Systems

2001-04-21 Thread Mike Noyes
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 2001-04-21 12:51 -0700 On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: You have a better grasp of the details than I do. :) If I have this right, cramfs isn't flexible enough for our needs. That means that Midori isn't useful for a base, and we're back to vfat or minix for long

[Leaf-devel] New list (leaf-cvs-commits)

2001-04-21 Thread Mike Noyes
Everyone, I created a new list that receives our CVS commit messages. I hope this will allow everyone to keep track of release development. I installed syncmail by following the SourceForge instructions below. If you have time, please test it by committing a change to our repository. Thanks.

Re: [Leaf-devel] File Systems (was: CVS structure)

2001-04-21 Thread Jack Coates
I just hunted through my module archives and I've never built it as a module... I also did a google search, but the only ones I turned up in reasonable timeframe were compiled for NetBSD. Those are 51K (!). -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: It's what's for dinner! On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Mike Noyes

Re: [Leaf-devel] File Systems (was: CVS structure)

2001-04-21 Thread Mike Noyes
Jack Coates, 2001-04-21 16:08 -0700 I just hunted through my module archives and I've never built it as a module... I also did a google search, but the only ones I turned up in reasonable timeframe were compiled for NetBSD. Those are 51K (!). Jack, That's huge. How big is minix? We can subtract

Re: [Leaf-devel] File Systems (was: CVS structure)

2001-04-21 Thread George Metz
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: Jack Coates, 2001-04-21 16:08 -0700 I just hunted through my module archives and I've never built it as a module... I also did a google search, but the only ones I turned up in reasonable timeframe were compiled for NetBSD. Those are 51K (!). Jack,

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-21 Thread George Metz
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, David Douthitt wrote: When I first compiled kernels for LRP, I used the EigerStein kernel as my base. I later found that by NOT compiling modules, I could save space let me explain. Okay. Not that I can stop you in an e-mail. =) If there is an item in the kernel

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-21 Thread George Metz
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: Well, I generall think almost EVERYTHING should be modules. You can regain IDE support for booting by adding the modules to the initial ramdisk (the linuxrc mods I posted a while ago for my SCSI-RAID support do this). Yeah, Oxygen does the

Re: [Leaf-devel] File Systems (was: CVS structure)

2001-04-21 Thread Mike Noyes
George Metz, 2001-04-21 21:34 -0400 On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: That's huge. How big is minix? We can subtract the minix size from the ext2 total. Is that correct, or am I out in left field still? Not sure what you mean. If you mean from kernel size for the total size change, then

Re: [Leaf-devel] File Systems (was: CVS structure)

2001-04-21 Thread jdnewmil
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, George Metz wrote: On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: Jack Coates, 2001-04-21 16:08 -0700 I just hunted through my module archives and I've never built it as a module... I also did a google search, but the only ones I turned up in reasonable timeframe

Re: [Leaf-devel] File Systems (was: CVS structure)

2001-04-21 Thread George Metz
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the concept is to raise the bar by putting vfat into the kernel. If vfat doesn't depend on the msdos code, then omit msdos to reduce size and risk of manipulating vfat filenames as msdos filenames (which can strand LFN data in the FAT).