RE: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive

2006-03-15 Thread Luis.F.Correia
Hi Mike, > -Original Message- > From: Mike Noyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:21 PM > To: leaf-devel > Subject: RE: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive > > Luis, > I'm just one admin for this project. The other seven have the > sa

RE: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive

2006-03-15 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 07:28, Luis.F.Correia wrote: > What I fail to see is a better organized website. The problems I saw one > year ago concering documentation search are still present. You often > present the excuse that we don't have shell space to create the PDF's > and some other restrictions

RE: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive

2006-03-15 Thread Jorn Eriksen
--Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Spakman Sent: 15. mars 2006 16:34 To: Mike Noyes Cc: leaf-devel Subject: Re: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive Hello Mike, > Eric, > Continuing the CD image is worthwhile, but not the floppy. Replace the > floppy

Re: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive

2006-03-15 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Mike, > Eric, > Continuing the CD image is worthwhile, but not the floppy. Replace the > floppy image with the new usb-hdd flash drive image. > I don't see any reason to replace the floppy image, it's still a nice format for older hardware and like I said before it doesn't "bite" us. We can

RE: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive

2006-03-15 Thread Luis.F.Correia
Hi! > -Original Message- > From: Mike Noyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:06 PM > To: Eric Spakman > Cc: leaf-devel > Subject: Re: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive > > On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 01:43, Eric Spakman wrote: > > >We can

Re: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive

2006-03-15 Thread Mike Noyes
On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 23:47, Natanael Copa wrote: > Mike Noyes wrote: > > Another reason is, no one to my knowledge has successfully fit linux > > kernel 2.6 on a floppy. > > I have 1.44 floppies with 2.6 kernel + drivers to load the rest of the > system from either USB drive or cdrom. (one floppy

Re: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive

2006-03-15 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 01:43, Eric Spakman wrote: > >We can still strive to fit within 1.66M, and move to usb-hdd flash drive > >as our default image. > > I don't see that as mutual exclusive, we can create an USB image next > to our floppy and CD images. Eric, Continuing the CD image is worthwhi

Re: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive

2006-03-15 Thread Natanael Copa
Mike Noyes wrote: > On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 14:24, Eric Spakman wrote: > >>> We do have minimum requirements, and don't support all old hardware. I'm >>> just suggesting we evaluate our minimum requirements again. >>> >>> >> Why should we do that? As long as we can make the setup small enou

Re: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive

2006-03-15 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Mike, >I agree that we should avoid bloat. However, it seems to me we're >missing desired functionality by sticking to the 3.5" floppy minimum >requirement. Other projects (IPCop, etc.) are gaining users, and even >getting nominated for SF.net CCA. > I don't think we are missing desired functio

Re: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive

2006-03-14 Thread Mike Noyes
On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 14:24, Eric Spakman wrote: > > We do have minimum requirements, and don't support all old hardware. I'm > > just suggesting we evaluate our minimum requirements again. > > > Why should we do that? As long as we can make the setup small enough that > it can even fit on a floppy

Re: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive

2006-03-14 Thread Mike Noyes
On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 14:24, Eric Spakman wrote: > > We do have minimum requirements, and don't support all old hardware. I'm > > just suggesting we evaluate our minimum requirements again. > > > Why should we do that? Eric, As you stated earlier, PCs no longer ship with floppy drives. Solid state

Re: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive

2006-03-14 Thread Mike Noyes
On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 14:28, David Douthitt wrote: > Mike Noyes wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 13:10, Eric Spakman wrote: > >> I don't see any specific need to create an image targeted at usb-hdd flash > >> drives. Older hardware doesn't support usb booting, > > > > We do have minimum requiremen

Re: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive

2006-03-14 Thread Mike Noyes
On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 14:45, Martin Hejl wrote: > I agree that sticking to floppy as a minimum requirement is good for us > (if only to make sure we avoid bloat). People can install it on larger > install media if they want to/need to, but giving up floppies just > because new PCs usually don't shi

Re: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive

2006-03-14 Thread Martin Hejl
Hi Eric, > In the case of pcengines WRAP this is USB support, not USB-boot support :-) Well, in the case of soekris, there isn't any support for booting from USB (the BIOS doesn't support USB as a boot device). There are workarounds, but they basically come down to using the CF to load a boot-load

Re: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive

2006-03-14 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Mike, > >> I don't see any specific need to create an image targeted at usb-hdd >> flash drives. Older hardware doesn't support usb booting, > > We do have minimum requirements, and don't support all old hardware. I'm > just suggesting we evaluate our minimum requirements again. > Why should we

Re: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive

2006-03-14 Thread Mike Noyes
On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 13:10, Eric Spakman wrote: > > Is the Bering-uClibc team producing images specifically targeted at > > usb-hdd flash drives? > > No specific images, but we provide different kind of initrd_xxx packages > which can be used for floppy, hdd, usb (flash) or cd use. So just choosi

Re: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive

2006-03-14 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Mike > > Eric, > Is the Bering-uClibc team producing images specifically targeted at > usb-hdd flash drives? > No specific images, but we provide different kind of initrd_xxx packages which can be used for floppy, hdd, usb (flash) or cd use. So just choosing the right initrd package and chan

Re: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive

2006-03-14 Thread Mike Noyes
On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 12:26, Eric Spakman wrote: > Bering-uClibc supports booting from USB flash devices with initrd_usb. Eric, Is the Bering-uClibc team producing images specifically targeted at usb-hdd flash drives? -- Mike Noyes http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes/ SF.net Projects: leaf, ph

Re: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive

2006-03-14 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Mike, Bering-uClibc supports booting from USB flash devices with initrd_usb. Eric > Everyone, > It looks like USB-HDD flash drives are the new floppy. Bios support for > usb-hdd boot has been around for approximately three years now. The price > of flash drives isn't an issue anymore. Thus

Re: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive

2006-03-14 Thread Mike Noyes
On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 11:20, Mike Noyes wrote: > It looks like USB-HDD flash drives are the new floppy. Bios support for > usb-hdd boot has been around for approximately three years now. The > price of flash drives isn't an issue anymore. Thus, I sincerely think > it's time for us to consider movin

[leaf-devel] Flash Drive

2006-03-14 Thread Mike Noyes
Everyone, It looks like USB-HDD flash drives are the new floppy. Bios support for usb-hdd boot has been around for approximately three years now. The price of flash drives isn't an issue anymore. Thus, I sincerely think it's time for us to consider moving from 3.5 floppies to usb-hdd flash drives.