Re: [leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals

2003-02-20 Thread Matt Schalit
Lynn Avants wrote: I just didn't know how tunneling methods were integrated into Java other than possibly a call built-into the source. I think I'm back to my previous question, aren't these tunnel programs run as seperate apps from the GUI? What I mean is, there aren't any

Re: [leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals

2003-02-19 Thread David Howe
I'm referring to only packaging meaning having within the same lrp. Additionally, the package installer should load all modules that are tarred within the package as they are deemed necessary for the utilities to work. I'm not suggesting that the module be compiled or integrated. Can we do

Re: [leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals

2003-02-19 Thread Matt Schalit
Lynn Avants wrote: Matt, Are lshd, Sounds new. what's the benefit of lshd? stunnel, http://tinyurl.com/63lh or zebedee also feasible options with Java??? Don't see why not, isn't this, like stunnel, completely seperate from the application? It's another thing to compile and make

Re: [leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals

2003-02-19 Thread Lynn Avants
On Wednesday 19 February 2003 04:18 pm, Matt Schalit wrote: Lynn Avants wrote: Matt, Are lshd, Sounds new. what's the benefit of lshd? It is somewhat compatible with SSH, but smaller. It is available for uClibc-bering and probably Bering as well. stunnel, Mosquito and other off-LEAF

AW: [leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals

2003-02-18 Thread Alex Rhomberg
GUI Pre-rollout Config == We are thinking it'd be cool, if you wanted to, to download a fat CD of everything LEAF on it, burn the thing, and use it to build yourself a custom LEAF floppy. You'd do this before you rollout that floppy to the LEAF box. You could save

Re: AW: [leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals

2003-02-18 Thread Frank Tegtmeyer
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Re: [leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals

2003-02-18 Thread Phillip . Watts
Watts/austin/Nlynx) Subject: [leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals This is an unofficial message to let folks know what the short term goals are for the LEAF project, the hot topics being developed, just in case you're not monitoring the leaf-devel list. I wasn't asked to write

Re: [leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals

2003-02-18 Thread Matt Schalit
S Mohan wrote: I'd also suggest a change in lrp packaging by which the modules required for a package to run is bundled with the lrp. Installing the lrp will also insmod the module automatically. A depmod kind of facility will make it easy to use/ configure LEAF. Give me an example please of

Re: [leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals

2003-02-18 Thread David Howe
S Mohan wrote: I'd also suggest a change in lrp packaging by which the modules required for a package to run is bundled with the lrp. Installing the lrp will also insmod the module automatically. A depmod kind of facility will make it easy to use/ configure LEAF. Give me an example

Re: [leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals

2003-02-18 Thread Jeff Newmiller
On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Matt Schalit wrote: S Mohan wrote: I'd also suggest a change in lrp packaging by which the modules required for a package to run is bundled with the lrp. Installing the lrp will also insmod the module automatically. A depmod kind of facility will make it easy to

Re: [leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals

2003-02-18 Thread Matt Schalit
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RE: [leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals

2003-02-18 Thread S Mohan
] Subject: Re: [leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Matt Schalit wrote: S Mohan wrote: I'd also suggest a change in lrp packaging by which the modules required for a package to run is bundled with the lrp. Installing the lrp will also insmod the module

RE: [leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals

2003-02-18 Thread S Mohan
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals I think that in most cases coupling the base user-level package with an application-specific set of kernel modules makes more sense than integrating the two. If you really want idiot-level integration, then fall back

Re: [leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals

2003-02-18 Thread Tom Eastep
S Mohan wrote: While I'm not that aware of various options, I think a few modules are mandatory or have to go with some packages. E.g. ipsec.o with ipsec(509).lrp, bridge.o with bridge.lrp, netfilter with tc.lrp etc. I was looking at this. In addition, 90-95% of the users would use a common

Re: [leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals

2003-02-18 Thread Lynn Avants
On Tuesday 18 February 2003 09:19 pm, Tom Eastep wrote: I rather favor a mechanism whereby package-module dependencies can be expressed in the package. Including kernel modules in .lrp's like ppp, pppoa or shorwall (just to name one) will yield nightmarish results when we try to introduce a

Re: [leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals

2003-02-18 Thread Lynn Avants
On Tuesday 18 February 2003 12:36 pm, Matt Schalit wrote: Java has ssh support built in. The LEAF system requirements are: sshd.lrp. That presents a space issue for any single floppy rollout, our classic format. Matt, Are lshd, stunnel, or zebedee also feasible options with Java??? --

RE: [leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals

2003-02-18 Thread S Mohan
. Mohan -Original Message- From: Tom Eastep [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 February 2003 08:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals S Mohan wrote: While I'm not that aware of various options, I think a few modules

[leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals

2003-02-17 Thread Matt Schalit
This is an unofficial message to let folks know what the short term goals are for the LEAF project, the hot topics being developed, just in case you're not monitoring the leaf-devel list. I wasn't asked to write this, but I figured it'd might help a bit. Please toss in your comments if you'd

Re: [leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals

2003-02-17 Thread Mike Noyes
On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 10:39, Matt Schalit wrote: This is an unofficial message to let folks know what the short term goals are for the LEAF project, the hot topics being developed, just in case you're not monitoring the leaf-devel list. I wasn't asked to write this, but I figured it'd might

RE: [leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals

2003-02-17 Thread S Mohan
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt Schalit Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 12:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [leaf-user] Update: Short term LEAF project goals This is an unofficial message to let folks know what the short term goals are for the LEAF project, the hot