Re: [LEAPSECS] ITU-R SG7 to consider UTC on October 4

2010-08-09 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 20100809104622.gc32...@davros.org, Clive D.W. Feather writes: Poul-Henning Kamp said: and we have a constitution for Denmark that has relevant wording in it. Pardon me for being confused, [...] In Denmark the parliament reigns supreme, (Note to constitutional writers: This is a

Re: [LEAPSECS] ITU-R SG7 to consider UTC on October 4

2010-08-09 Thread Zefram
Steve Allen wrote: Listen to the BBC. Many of the readers will announce that it's X o'clock GMT when that means X o'clock British Summer Time. BBC World Service announces X o'clock Greenwich Mean Time and really means GMT. (The immediately preceding pips are synchronised to UTC, not GMT, but

Re: [LEAPSECS] ITU-R SG7 to consider UTC on October 4

2010-08-09 Thread Zefram
Steve Allen wrote: The way that zoneinfo is structured gives the impression that POSIX systems (and anything which handles local civil time in a roughly equivalent way) could handle such a name change, Zoneinfo doesn't model the differences between flavours of UT, or

Re: [LEAPSECS] ITU-R SG7 to consider UTC on October 4

2010-08-09 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 4c607952.2090...@yahoo.com, Michael Deckers writes: They ratified the EU directive in a Danish law, most recently (http://retsinformation.w0.dk/print.aspx?id=22064) which defines that DST (sommertid) starts 02:00 (local time) (etc). I am confused: there is no time scale

Re: [LEAPSECS] The Debate over UTC and Leap Seconds

2010-08-09 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: 20100809222912.gb8...@ucolick.org Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org writes: : The Debate over UTC and Leap Seconds : : is the title of a paper from the AIAA last week with contribution : from P. Kenneth Seidelmann : : It is probably the most comprehensive publicly-available

Re: [LEAPSECS] The Debate over UTC and Leap Seconds

2010-08-09 Thread Steve Allen
On Mon 2010-08-09T19:40:18 -0700, Steve Allen hath writ: On Mon 2010-08-09T17:32:47 -0600, M. Warner Losh hath writ: When the law says Mean Solar Time, and there's a number of different ways to compute a mean solar time, which mean solar time is the law of the land? UT1? The noisier UT2?

Re: [LEAPSECS] ITU-R SG7 to consider UTC on October 4

2010-08-09 Thread Rob Seaman
On Aug 9, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Michael Deckers wrote: The text of European Directive 2000/84/EC of 2001-01-19 is issued by the EU in 22 languages, all with equal standing. For the time scale determining the beginning and end of summer time, these translations refer to: -- Greenwich