That Matsakis document includes reference to the UK public dialogue. I
took part in that dialogue at one point as an expert on the topic.
The people (regular members of the public, randomly selected) involved
were taught what leap seconds were, and given opinions on whether they
should stay or go.
Stephen Colebourne scolebou...@joda.org wrote:
I can safely say from my experience there, that if leap seconds are
abolished it will not be with the British peoples approval.
I got the impression from the emphasis on non-technical aspects that the
consultation was designed to get that answer.
On 30 September 2014 11:43, Tony Finch d...@dotat.at wrote:
Stephen Colebourne scolebou...@joda.org wrote:
I can safely say from my experience there, that if leap seconds are
abolished it will not be with the British peoples approval.
I got the impression from the emphasis on non-technical
Tony Finch d...@dotat.at wrote:
And I seem to remember from reading the materials that they also ignored
the cultural damage that was done by the introduction of leap seconds in
the first place, breaking a multi-thousand-year tradition of base 60
fractions, making all mechanical clocks
As a social scientist who watched the British process from the outside, I
had some concerns about it. In particular, I was bothered by Minister
Willets announcing his feelings and THEN hiring the outside consulting
group to write a report.
Social and cultural dimensions do matter, but if
Sorry, but I disagree with Tony Finch. The time period from June 30, 2012,
7:59:60 to June 30, 2012, 8:00:00, Eastern Daylight Time, did occur in the
United States and any end user requiring such precision was legally obliged
to observe it.
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From: LEAPSECS
On Sep 30, 2014, at 8:27 AM, Michael Spacefalcon msoko...@ivan.harhan.org
wrote:
Tony Finch d...@dotat.at wrote:
And I seem to remember from reading the materials that they also ignored
the cultural damage that was done by the introduction of leap seconds in
the first place, breaking a
So you are saying that the UTC standard is so broken that you have to invent
your own, which is not standardized by any standards body[*], to get around
it? UTC is the required time base for business and has some odd quirks which
mean that to comply with it you have to be an expert on the
I think lots of contracts for the use of computers where time matters, such
as online auction sites, contain language that the parties agree to use the
time as maintained on a particular computer system, such as the electronic
auction site's computers.
-Original Message-
From: LEAPSECS
Hal Murray said:
How many contracts worry about seconds?
Ones to deal with electronic trading, domain name registration, and such
topics.
I think it's common for contracts to start one minute before or after
midnight to avoid an English language ambiguity. Things like midnight
Monday
Television, cable, and internet advertising. In broadcast (including
cable) the contracts are in video frames, in the North America and other
NTSC standards countries this is on the order of +- 1/30th second (with
some small variance for technical error). Lots and lots of commercials,
lots
On Sep 30, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Warner Losh i...@bsdimp.com wrote:
But the basic point still remains: If you have to sugar coat the actual
standard
with a fake standard to paper-over people’s inability to deal with the actual
standard, this suggests that you have the wrong actual standard.
No,
On Sep 30, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Rob Seaman sea...@noao.edu wrote:
On Sep 30, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Warner Losh i...@bsdimp.com wrote:
But the basic point still remains: If you have to sugar coat the actual
standard
with a fake standard to paper-over people’s inability to deal with the actual
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