Re: [LEAPSECS] stale leap second information

2015-01-12 Thread Rob Seaman
On Jan 12, 2015, at 2:53 PM, Martin Burnicki wrote: > I've suggested at various occasions that the IERS should be the authoritative > source for a leap second file. There were discussions at both the 2013 and 2011 UTC meetings well-aligned with what Martin says, for both leap second info as w

Re: [LEAPSECS] stale leap second information

2015-01-12 Thread Martin Burnicki
Tom Van Baak wrote: Or use this 40-line text file instead: http://hpiers.obspm.fr/iers/bul/bulc/Leap_Second.dat The one is nice because it includes a "File expires on 31 December 2015" notice. This in not an optimal solution, yet, since parsing a string like this can be error prone. The a

Re: [LEAPSECS] stale leap second information

2015-01-12 Thread Martin Burnicki
Tom Van Baak wrote: If would really be good if there was one authoritative soure for this, and that there was a uniform format. Ideally there would be multiple ways to access it, via text and binary for different architectures. The might be thought of as a "UTC Metadata API", from which various "

Re: [LEAPSECS] stale leap second information

2015-01-12 Thread Martin Burnicki
Brooks Harris wrote: IERS publishes this - Its up to date (includes 2014-07-01) as of today as I access it (2015-01-12). http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eoppc/bul/bulc/Leap_Second_History.dat I'm not sure when it was updated, maybe with their Bullitin C announcement. ftp://hpiers.obspm.fr/iers/bul/bulc/

Re: [LEAPSECS] stale leap second information

2015-01-12 Thread Steve Allen
On Mon 2015-01-12T12:14:22 -0800, Steve Allen hath writ: > The new version which is in github reads > > # Updated through IERS Bulletin C49 > # File expires on: 28 December 2015 > # > #@ 3660249600 but also, the new version of the NIST leap-seconds.list file which is included in

Re: [LEAPSECS] stale leap second information

2015-01-12 Thread Steve Allen
On Mon 2015-01-12T11:31:32 -0800, Tom Van Baak hath writ: > Let me know if I'm using your "most reliable" source correctly: > > - Go to https://www.iana.org/time-zones That indicates the most recent "official release" was 2014j. There has been no official release yet in 2015 because there are no i

Re: [LEAPSECS] stale leap second information

2015-01-12 Thread Tom Van Baak
> To be fair, and here I declare myself as an ex-member of the SOFA > board, the software is clearly labelled "2001-03-31 release". That > page is no longer even accessible from the SOFA home page where the > latest release is dated 2014-10-07. > > Regards, > Mark Calabretta Hi Mark, I understa

Re: [LEAPSECS] stale leap second information

2015-01-12 Thread Tom Van Baak
> Find a reliable source, and at the moment the most reliable source > is probably the IANA TimeZone Database > https://www.iana.org/time-zones Steve, Let me know if I'm using your "most reliable" source correctly: - Go to https://www.iana.org/time-zones - Read down until "Latest version" - Down

Re: [LEAPSECS] stale leap second information

2015-01-12 Thread Steve Allen
On Mon 2015-01-12T07:10:23 -0800, Steve Allen hath writ: > at the moment the most reliable source > is probably the IANA TimeZone Database > https://www.iana.org/time-zones > That comes with a caveat that it does not instantly respond to the > changes, so the most recent release is 2014j from Novem

Re: [LEAPSECS] stale leap second information

2015-01-12 Thread Tom Van Baak
> If would really be good if there was one authoritative soure for this, > and that there was a uniform format. Ideally there would be multiple > ways to access it, via text and binary for different architectures. The > might be thought of as a "UTC Metadata API", from which various "UTC > Meta

Re: [LEAPSECS] stale leap second information

2015-01-12 Thread Brooks Harris
Opps, sorry, typo - 2015 not 2014 = "Its up to date (includes 2015-07-01)" On 2015-01-12 10:33 AM, Brooks Harris wrote: IERS publishes this - Its up to date (includes 2014-07-01) as of today as I access it (2015-01-12). http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eoppc/bul/bulc/Leap_Second_History.dat I'm not su

Re: [LEAPSECS] stale leap second information

2015-01-12 Thread Brooks Harris
IERS publishes this - Its up to date (includes 2014-07-01) as of today as I access it (2015-01-12). http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eoppc/bul/bulc/Leap_Second_History.dat I'm not sure when it was updated, maybe with their Bullitin C announcement. ftp://hpiers.obspm.fr/iers/bul/bulc/bulletinc.dat If wo

Re: [LEAPSECS] stale leap second information

2015-01-12 Thread Steve Allen
On Sun 2015-01-11T23:58:08 -0800, Tom Van Baak hath writ: > The web is full of incorrect and outdated leap second information and tables. > Here's one example: Here's somewhat scarier example this one is almost up to date http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp50/leapsecond.cfm but this one is also fi

Re: [LEAPSECS] stale leap second information

2015-01-12 Thread Mark Calabretta
On Sun, 11 Jan 2015 23:58:08 -0800 "Tom Van Baak" wrote: > The web is full of incorrect and outdated leap second information and tables. > Here's one example: > > Standards of Fundamental Astronomy > http://www.iausofa.org/2001_0331/Timescales.html > Delta(AT) (=TAI-UTC) for a given UTC dat

Re: [LEAPSECS] stale leap second information

2015-01-12 Thread Henry Hallam
Just a few days ago I had to (begrudgingly) hard-code a leap second table. I set it up so that an obvious warning would be printed any time the lookup function was called after the last known time of validity - i.e. it will start printing obnoxious warnings that it's using stale data after December

Re: [LEAPSECS] Improvements since 2012

2015-01-12 Thread Harlan Stenn
Steve Allen writes: > On Sat 2015-01-10T22:53:14 -0800, Ask Bj=F8rn Hansen hath writ: > > What's better about NTP and the NTP Pool since 2012? > > This is a question better answered by David Malone based on his > long-term monitoring of the leap flags in the NTP pool, but ... > > At the end of 20