Re: [LEAPSECS] UT1 offset

2024-01-03 Thread Seaman, Robert Lewis - (rseaman)
Hi Tom and Mike and all, I suppose we weren’t talking about DUT1 time signals? See http://futureofutc.org/2011/program/presentations/AAS_11-675_Malys.pptx.pdf for details about the flipside question of operating a GNSS constellation (current as of a dozen years ago). One shouldn’t find it

[LEAPSECS] timekeeping resources for 2024?

2023-12-27 Thread Seaman, Robert Lewis - (rseaman)
Happy Holidays, I started to reply to recent emails, but all issues except one have been discussed over and over again on the mailing list and at the various workshops. So, my Christmas gift to you all is not to reply, and to myself was to dust off the login and server info for the

Re: [LEAPSECS] prep for WRC 23

2023-12-23 Thread Seaman, Robert Lewis - (rseaman)
E pur si muove UTC may no longer serve as a kind of solar time (after 2026 or 2035, or somebody said 2040 the other day), but civil time will continue to have engineering requirements tracing to both solar and atomic time scales. Shenanigans will result, bedeviling future blinkered

[LEAPSECS] "Why the day is 24 hours long"

2023-07-17 Thread Seaman, Robert Lewis - (rseaman)
The Babylonians would perhaps aver this is not the best possible title: “Why the day is 24 hours long: The history of Earth’s atmospheric thermal tide, composition, and mean temperature”. In any event, there are lots of resonances and near-resonances in the solar system. If any dynamicists are

Re: [LEAPSECS] speeding up again?

2023-06-18 Thread Seaman, Robert Lewis - (rseaman)
This point of view (from Richard’s second citation) is rather backward: “LOD is the negative time-derivative of UT1-UTC”, whatever its mathematical utility. And whatever one’s philosophical position on the topic of this list. I’m a little at a loss for what we’re discussing here. The

Re: [LEAPSECS] USNO predictions of UT1-UTC

2023-03-19 Thread Seaman, Robert Lewis - (rseaman)
Isn’t the question whether those responsible for issuing leap seconds will follow through and trigger a negative leap second even if Bulletin A says it’s time? Much consternation will be feigned. Rob Seaman Lunar and Planetary Laboratory University of Arizona On 3/19/23, 5:21 PM, "LEAPSECS"

Re: [LEAPSECS] future access to solar time?

2022-11-21 Thread Seaman, Robert Lewis - (rseaman)
workout as this foundational standard is redefined. Rob On 11/21/22, 8:30 AM, "LEAPSECS" wrote: On 2022-11-21 14:19, Seaman, Robert Lewis - (rseaman) wrote: > In a post-leap-second world, precision values for dUT1 either become more > critical or less. Or rather, they become n

Re: [LEAPSECS] future access to solar time?

2022-11-21 Thread Seaman, Robert Lewis - (rseaman)
Interesting. In a post-leap-second world, precision values for dUT1 either become more critical or less. Or rather, they become no-less important scientifically but perhaps negligible politically. For example, https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0273117719302388 says “Global

Re: [LEAPSECS] future access to solar time?

2022-11-20 Thread Seaman, Robert Lewis - (rseaman)
systems do care at the level of the current UTC approximation. Some care at much higher precision. So, what alternative standards and infrastructure will be available in the future? Time to move on… Rob On 11/20/22, 10:31 AM, "LEAPSECS" wrote: External Email Seaman, Robert Lewis

Re: [LEAPSECS] future access to solar time?

2022-11-20 Thread Seaman, Robert Lewis - (rseaman)
anybody else has yet found the mark themselves. Rob Seaman, Robert Lewis - (rseaman) wrote: > The plan, rather, is to cease easy access to solar time. The resolution says the GCPM : encourages the BIPM to work with relevant organizations to identify the : need for updates in the differ

[LEAPSECS] future access to solar time?

2022-11-20 Thread Seaman, Robert Lewis - (rseaman)
Whatever they do to poor old UTC and by extension to the concept of Universal Time as the modern realization of Greenwich Mean Time, atomic time and solar time will continue to be separate kinds of time scales, both of which are necessary for diverse engineering requirements for civil

Re: [LEAPSECS] Executive Order on Strengthening National Resilience through Responsible Use of Positioning, Navigation, and Timing Services

2020-02-13 Thread Seaman, Robert Lewis - (rseaman)
., Canada E3B 5A3 | |Fredericton? Where's that? See: http://www.fredericton.ca/ | - > On Feb 13, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Seaman, Robert Lewis - (rseaman) wrote:

Re: [LEAPSECS] Executive Order on Strengthening National Resilience through Responsible Use of Positioning, Navigation, and Timing Services

2020-02-13 Thread Seaman, Robert Lewis - (rseaman)
Hi Richard, Interesting! A few immediate comments / questions: 1) Political talk to /dev/null 2) Whether as executive order or otherwise, language like this obviously originated with experts. 3) Does anybody know what agenc(ies) appears to be motivating this? 4) Are commercial interests

Re: [LEAPSECS] Leap seconds have a larger context than POSIX

2020-02-06 Thread Seaman, Robert Lewis - (rseaman)
Hello all, The fundamental answer / constraint to all questions of engineering, including temporal engineering, is funding. No bucks, no Buck Rogers. “Time” is a vast topic, pretty much as big as “space”. Precision timekeeping topics are only somewhat smaller in practical terms since issues of

[LEAPSECS] Leap seconds have a larger context than POSIX

2020-02-01 Thread Seaman, Robert Lewis - (rseaman)
Tried to send this a few days ago, but it never showed up on the list. Steve has provided gritty details since. Since roughly the second world war, the distinction between time-of-day and interval-time has become increasingly clear. But the history of this distinction goes back at least as far