Re: ideas for new UTC rules

2006-04-15 Thread Tim Shepard
> Am especially baffled at why it wouldn't occur to D-Link that it was > their responsibility to field their own NTP servers. This is even They don't even need to do that. They could have simply wired "pool.ntp.org" into the device. See http://www.pool.ntp.org/ for more info.

Re: ideas for new UTC rules

2006-04-14 Thread Rob Seaman
Only hours ago did I learn of the recent problems with D-Link routers. Remarkable! Just imagine the logical disconnect at the product development meetings. The marketing folks emphasizing the highly desirable feature of NTP compliance and the tech folks tossing a list of 50 servers into the ce

Re: ideas for new UTC rules

2006-04-14 Thread Steve Allen
On Fri 2006-04-14T19:39:31 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp hath writ: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Allen writes: > >It's a good question. My immediate response is that my notions are > >also part of the > >"Full Time-Scale-Aware Lawyer Employment act of {YA}" > > I don't want us to ado

Re: ideas for new UTC rules

2006-04-14 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Allen writes: >On Fri 2006-04-14T09:43:45 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp hath writ: >> If you put a provisional table of leapseconds into your products and >> reality turns out differently, who is liable for the discrepancies ? > >It's a good question. My immediate

Re: ideas for new UTC rules

2006-04-14 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rob Seaman writes: >The reality is that the ITU-R "specification" is just a minor >footnote pertaining to obsolete technologies of time signal >transport. One presumes nothing would stop the IERS from >publishing any scheduling algorithm such as you describe. Actu

Re: ideas for new UTC rules

2006-04-14 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rob Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Simply allow the IERS to announce any number of leap seconds : in advance extending over any time horizon - and yes - occurring : at the end of any month. If predictability is the goal, relaxing : unnecessary cons

Re: ideas for new UTC rules

2006-04-14 Thread Steve Allen
On Fri 2006-04-14T09:43:45 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp hath writ: > If you put a provisional table of leapseconds into your products and > reality turns out differently, who is liable for the discrepancies ? It's a good question. My immediate response is that my notions are also part of the

Re: ideas for new UTC rules

2006-04-14 Thread Rob Seaman
On Apr 13, 2006, at 10:41 PM, Steve Allen wrote:Today is one of the four days in the year when Newcomb's_expression_ for the equation of time has a value of zeroand it was Samuel Beckett's hundredth birthday.  Leap second as Godot: ESTRAGON: And if he doesn't come? VLADIMIR

Re: ideas for new UTC rules

2006-04-14 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Allen writes: >==During the second five years after the date of adoption. >(YA+5 through YA+9) > >On a semi-annual basis the IERS should publish an immutable schedule >of leap seconds predicted for five years into the future. This would be a big improveme

ideas for new UTC rules

2006-04-13 Thread Steve Allen
Today is one of the four days in the year when Newcomb's expression for the equation of time has a value of zero. In honor of Simon Newcomb I offer the following notions for changing the way that leap seconds are scheduled. I suspect that this is almost certain to offend everyone. Perhaps for th