On Mon 2005-01-24T10:13:47 -0700, Rob Seaman hath writ:
> How (precisely) can we improve the distribution of time signals to
> the worldwide communities that depend on them?
I know that NIST has folks working on this.
I suspect that they are talking with folks at NRL and PTB
and GPS/Navsta
I'm pleased to see such a robust discussion - yet again. Some of the
posters are very familiar from previous rounds of discussion, some
names seem new to me. If there are new members of this list (and we
certainly could benefit from such - no irony intended), they may not
have stumbled onto the l
I hadn't seen this before - thanks. It doesn't surprise me, though.
Unless I'm missing something, getting replacing leap seconds with leap
hours (r leap-anything related of the length of a day) would not
simplify any of this. The only way to simplify it is to remove the
ability to adjust for day le
Tom Van Baak scripsit:
> Another observation is that our local newspaper always
> prints Sun and Moon rise and set times. But not time
> of noon. Why is this? Maybe it's just our paper (noon
> implies sun and we don't see much of it here in Seattle).
Some people need to know sunset for religious
Steve Allen scripsit:
> What we are being told by the Time Lords is that, starting from a date
> in the near future, knowing when noon is will also be a specialist
> operation.
Already true.
For many months of the year, solar noon is closer to 1 PM, or even 1:30
PM, in a great many countries, an
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Allen writes:
>On Mon 2005-01-24T00:50:10 -0800, Tom Van Baak hath writ:
>> Isn't knowing when noon is already a specialist operation?
>> I mean, most people could tell you when noon is to within
>> an hour or two or three, but finer than that requires a far
>>
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Markus Kuhn writes:
>You surely must have seen my detailed UTS proposal for how UTC leap
>seconds should be handled trivially and safely by the overwhelming
>majority of computer applications, without any special considerations
>whatsoever by normal application prog
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote on 2005-01-24 09:32 UTC:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Markus Kuhn writes:
>
> >In summary: There are basically three proposals on the table:
> >
> > a) Keep UTC as it is (|UTC - UT1| < 900 ms) and just make TAI more
> > widely available in time signal broadcasts
>
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Markus Kuhn writes:
>In summary: There are basically three proposals on the table:
>
> a) Keep UTC as it is (|UTC - UT1| < 900 ms) and just make TAI more
> widely available in time signal broadcasts
>
> b) Move from frequent UTC leap seconds to far less freque
On Mon 2005-01-24T00:50:10 -0800, Tom Van Baak hath writ:
> Isn't knowing when noon is already a specialist operation?
> I mean, most people could tell you when noon is to within
> an hour or two or three, but finer than that requires a far
> amount of daily mental calculation, no?
Noon has long r
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tom Van Baak writes:
>Another observation is that our local newspaper always
>prints Sun and Moon rise and set times. But not time
>of noon. Why is this? Maybe it's just our paper (noon
>implies sun and we don't see much of it here in Seattle).
>
>Why is the instant
Steve Allen wrote on 2005-01-24 06:09 UTC:
> But the current strategy of retaining the name UTC creates one real
> and unresolvable problem that will persist indefinitely. It is very
> bad policy to corrupt the historical meaning of anything called
> "Universal Time" by redefining UTC to be someth
John Cowan wrote on 2005-01-23 18:37 UTC:
> Markus Kuhn scripsit:
>
> > UTC currently certainly has *no* two 1-h leaps every year.
>
> There seems to be persistent confusion on what is meant by the term
> "leap hour".
Why?
> I understand it as a secular change to the various LCT offsets,
> made e
Steve,
Some comments on your fine posting...
> But Essen claims for himself (in both this autobiography
> and in Metrologia
I found the Metrologia article interesting. I had heard
of 100 ms steps (leap tenth-seconds) but not the 50
ms steps.
Did you notice he appears to refer to a leap second
w
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