The real problem with leap seconds

2006-01-06 Thread Michael Sokolov
Hello, I am a new entrant into the leap second debate and I have just written a paper in which I have outlined what I think is the real problem with UTC and leap seconds as they are currently implemented and a proposed solution. I have put the article on my web page: http://ivan.Harhan.ORG/~msok

Re: Defining our terms (was Re: [LEAPSECS] Longer leap second notice)

2006-01-06 Thread Steve Allen
On Sat 2006-01-07T00:32:44 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp hath writ: > TAI > Owned by BIPM / Metre Convention This is indisputably agreed to be true since the demise of the BIH. I know of no endorsement for the use of TAI outside of metrological circumstances. > UTC >

Re: Defining our terms (was Re: [LEAPSECS] Longer leap second notice)

2006-01-06 Thread William Thompson
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Universal Time = confusing term which comes handy when trying to manipulate discussions about leap second futures. I have to take issue with this one. It's obvious from the current definition and terminology used with Coordinated Universal Time

Re: Defining our terms (was Re: [LEAPSECS] Longer leap second notice)

2006-01-06 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rob Seaman writes: >Perhaps what we need is simply to define our terms. A lot of the >friction on LEAPSECS undoubtedly comes from conflicting meanings. Good point. >Civil Time = the common basis for diverse time usage worldwide No. Civil Time is a leg

Defining our terms (was Re: [LEAPSECS] Longer leap second notice)

2006-01-06 Thread Rob Seaman
I said (and continue to assert): civil time (as we know it) IS mean solar time John Cowan demurs: Why do you persist in claiming that "all parties must certainly agree" on something that is precisely the point most in dispute? No communication with you is possible until you accept that ther

DCF77 leapsecond documented

2006-01-06 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
My VLF/LF capture has started to yield information now. I captured the antennasignal from my home-brew loop antenna (http://phk.freebsd.dk/loran-c/Antenna/) with an Adlink 9812 ADC card at 12 bits and 5 million samples per second. In total I have 400GB of capture, almost 8 seconds around the

Re: ITU Request for Leap Second Experiences

2006-01-06 Thread Neal McBurnett
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 08:24:39PM +, Ed Mirmak wrote: > Those who have submitted data, plots, or descriptions of system response to > the leap second addition may want to forward those messages to ITU WP-7A. > > Related to the Nov 2005 U.S. proposal to the ITU to redefine UTC and > abandon lea

Re: Longer leap second notice

2006-01-06 Thread John Cowan
Clive D.W. Feather scripsit: > John Cowan said: > > Barry gules and argent of seven and six,John Cowan > > on a canton azure fifty molets of the second. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --blazoning the U.S. flag http://www.ccil.org/~cowan > > You don't get odd numbers of barry.