Re: building consensus

2006-06-07 Thread David Malone
> > I belive this was because the year followed the taxation cycle of the > > government whereas the day+month followed the religiously inherited > > tradtion. > Indeed. For that matter, the start of the U.K. tax year was left alone > when the calendar changed, and is now 6 April (it should be 7

Re: building consensus

2006-06-07 Thread John Cowan
Rob Seaman scripsit: > References for this? Your explanation makes a lot of sense and I'm > prepared to be convinced, but have been skeptical of experimental > design as applied to questions of human behavior since participating > in studies as a requirement of undergraduate psychology coursework

Re: building consensus

2006-06-07 Thread Rob Seaman
Tim Shepard replies: Also hard to imagine how one gracefully transitions from one to two sleep cycles a day. It is already the norm in some places: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siesta Thanks for the chuckle. One is then left wondering whether our far future, Clarkeian "Against the Fall

Re: building consensus

2006-06-07 Thread Ed Davies
Rob Seaman wrote: On Jun 7, 2006, at 2:03 AM, Clive D.W. Feather wrote: In the UK in 1750, there were two different Julian calendars in use: the day and month enumeration matched, but year numbers changed at different dates (1st January in Scotland, 25th March in England and Wales). I've hear

Re: building consensus

2006-06-07 Thread John Cowan
Poul-Henning Kamp scripsit: > I belive this was because the year followed the taxation cycle of the > government whereas the day+month followed the religiously inherited > tradtion. Indeed. For that matter, the start of the U.K. tax year was left alone when the calendar changed, and is now 6 Apr

Re: building consensus

2006-06-07 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rob Seaman writes: >On Jun 7, 2006, at 2:03 AM, Clive D.W. Feather wrote: > >22 March 1750 >23 March 1750 >24 March 1750 >25 March 1751 >26 March 1751 >27 March 1751 > >Right? I belive this was because the year follow

Re: building consensus

2006-06-07 Thread Zefram
Rob Seaman wrote: > 23 March 1750 > 24 March 1750 > 25 March 1751 > 26 March 1751 Yes. There were several other dates used for the start of the counted year too. >What this suggests to me is that the day-of-the-month and year-of-our- >Lord counts were considered to be sep

Re: building consensus

2006-06-07 Thread Rob Seaman
On Jun 7, 2006, at 2:03 AM, Clive D.W. Feather wrote: In the UK in 1750, there were two different Julian calendars in use: the day and month enumeration matched, but year numbers changed at different dates (1st January in Scotland, 25th March in England and Wales). I've heard this said, but wh

Re: building consensus

2006-06-07 Thread Rob Seaman
On Jun 7, 2006, at 2:01 AM, Clive D.W. Feather wrote: Actually, the evidence from experiments is that the "natural" sleep- wake cycle is about 27 hours long, but force-locked to the day-night cycle (it's easier to synchronise a longer free-running timer to a shorter external signal than vice-ver

Re: building consensus

2006-06-07 Thread Clive D.W. Feather
John Cowan said: > Historians aren't exactly consistent on the question. In European > history, dates are Julian or Gregorian depending on the location; > dates in East Asian history seem to be proleptic Gregorian. Even worse, "Julian" can have more than one meaning. In the UK in 1750, there wer

Re: building consensus

2006-06-07 Thread Clive D.W. Feather
Rob Seaman said: >> As I've said before, eventually the notion that the solar day contains >> 24h of 60m of 60s will have to be abandoned. It'll be awfully hard >> to maintain when an "hour" involves two human sleep-wake cycles, >> out in the limit when the Moon is fully tidally locked and 1 lunar