Re: Precise time over time

2005-08-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Markus Kuhn writes: Poul-Henning Kamp wrote on 2005-08-10 18:26 UTC: If you want a really disturbing experience, visit a modern robotical slaughterhouse, and while you are there, observe and think about what a one second difference could do the the tightly

Re: Precise time over time

2005-08-11 Thread Steve Allen
On Thu 2005-08-11T14:40:10 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp hath writ: Because the food industry is required to provide trackability for food and the requirement is UTC time. Not over here it isn't. I'm pretty sure the time stamps on the milk cartons are local time, and I don't think I care much

Re: Precise time over time

2005-08-11 Thread John.Cowan
Steve Allen scripsit: Not over here it isn't. I'm pretty sure the time stamps on the milk cartons are local time, and I don't think I care much whether the clock on the dairy was accurate to a minute. Here in the Big Apple, the city that never sleeps, where sunrise means when the Sun is

Re: Precise time over time

2005-08-11 Thread Peter Bunclark
Surely the point about the slaughterhouse is the thought of the throat slasher getting a couple of seconds ahead of the brain stunner. As for the issue of whether the slaugherhouse needs syncing to an external clock, the point is that with the prevelance of ntp, it is just as easy, or easier,

Re: Precise time over time

2005-08-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Allen writes: On Thu 2005-08-11T14:40:10 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp hath writ: Because the food industry is required to provide trackability for food and the requirement is UTC time. Not over here it isn't. I'm pretty sure the time stamps on the milk cartons

Re: Precise time over time

2005-08-11 Thread Greg Hennessy
Will you support a proposal that keeps leap-second (or -minutes), but mandates that they be determined 40 or 50 years in advance ? Determined to what accuracy?

Re: Precise time over time

2005-08-11 Thread Rob Seaman
On Aug 11, 2005, at 12:46 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: As I understood the situation last week, nobody in the gang here had problems with leap seconds if we got a longer warning (40-50 years). So what prevents us from writing up our own proposal to ITU ? I'm pretty sure that we could get a

Re: Precise time over time

2005-08-11 Thread Mark Calabretta
On Thu 2005/08/11 12:37:52 MST, Rob Seaman wrote in a message to: LEAPSECS@ROM.USNO.NAVY.MIL As far as the maximum permitted size for DUT1 - some think 0.9 seconds is too small. There appears to be a consensus among quite divergent thinkers here that 0.9 hours is much too big. I imagine most

Re: Precise time over time

2005-08-11 Thread Rob Seaman
On Aug 11, 2005, at 7:27 AM, Peter Bunclark wrote: Surely the point about the slaughterhouse is the thought of the throat slasher getting a couple of seconds ahead of the brain stunner. That's what I love about this example - it just gets worse and worse the more you try to clarify. I see,