Re: vive le BIH!

2005-08-29 Thread Clive D.W. Feather
John.Cowan said: Another point made in the article, that GMT is a conventional name for the U.K.'s LCT, is all too true. No, it isn't. Recently I was to take part in a teleconference scheduled for such and such a time GMT. Since I live on a small island off the coast of North America, I am

Re: vive le BIH!

2005-08-29 Thread John.Cowan
Clive D.W. Feather scripsit: The problem here is Microsoft, whose software appears to believe that the current LCT here is GMT Daylight Time. How thoroughly stupid. Nevertheless, when I talked to the teleconference organizer, it became thoroughly clear that for him GMT meant the time on my

Re: vive le BIH!

2005-08-29 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John.Cowan writes: Clive D.W. Feather scripsit: The problem here is Microsoft, whose software appears to believe that the current LCT here is GMT Daylight Time. How thoroughly stupid. Nevertheless, when I talked to the teleconference organizer, it became

Re: Consensus rather than compromise

2005-08-29 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rob Seaman writes: Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: It is not unrelated to why some of us think that changing the definition of UTC is infinitely more possible than changing the rest of the worlds educational level with regards to timekeeping. Not unrelated, simply

Re: Consensus rather than compromise

2005-08-29 Thread Rob Seaman
On Aug 29, 2005, at 10:36 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I thought you were busy with your analysis document ? Let's see...rummage, rummage...what did I say? Ah, yes: I'm going to refrain from commenting on the best choices from the decision tree until it nears completion. I don't see that

Re: Consensus rather than compromise

2005-08-29 Thread John.Cowan
Rob Seaman scripsit: I did find it striking, however, that the public confusion being discussed was completely unconnected to issues of precision timekeeping such as leap seconds. Rather, the very definition of civil time was misunderstood, whether by Microsoft or by somebody else. I think

Re: Consensus rather than compromise

2005-08-29 Thread Clive D.W. Feather
John.Cowan said: Rather, the very definition of civil time was misunderstood, whether by Microsoft or by somebody else. I think this greatly overstates the case. Exactly. There was a mere misapplication of labels involved, both in the case of the conference leader (who believes that the

Re: Consensus rather than compromise

2005-08-29 Thread Clive D.W. Feather
Rob Seaman said: The problem here is Microsoft, whose software appears to believe that the current LCT here is GMT Daylight Time. The case has been repeatedly made that since the world tolerates large excursions in civil time such as caused by the varying local Daylight Saving Time policies,

Re: Consensus rather than compromise

2005-08-29 Thread Rob Seaman
On Aug 29, 2005, at 2:12 PM, Clive D.W. Feather wrote: And, by the way, the GMT standard is *NOT* synonymous with UTC; it is (IIRC) UT1. The original UTC standard (i.e., CCIR 460-4) stated: GMT may be regarded as the general equivalent of UT. UT1 and UTC are both representations of

most recent news

2005-08-29 Thread Steve Allen
For those who were not on the recipient list (I was not) the most recent leap seconds news is the public release of a letter from P.K. Seidelmann which was sent in July. It was posted here: http://igscb.jpl.nasa.gov/mail/igsmail/2005/msg00114.html -- Steve Allen [EMAIL