Re: Comments on Civil Time decision tree

2005-09-27 Thread William Thompson
Randy Kaelber wrote: On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 02:33:00PM -0400, Daniel R. Tobias wrote: I would suppose that such a space probe would have little need to be synchronized with earthly solar time, and thus might be best off operating on TAI, with any adjustments to UTC for the sake of humans

Re: Comments on Civil Time decision tree

2005-09-27 Thread William Thompson
Randy Kaelber wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 03:56:07PM -0400, William Thompson wrote: The spacecraft that I've had experience with coordinate the spacecraft clocks with Earth-based time standards. The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) spacecraft (which at a distance of 0.01 A.U. can

Re: Comments on Civil Time decision tree

2005-09-27 Thread Rob Seaman
Perhaps I might expand on some of Bill Thompson's statements in the context of the great convenience factor of using the current UTC standard.The accuracy requirement for the delivery of UTC to the instruments is +/- 0.410 seconds.High quality, cutting edge science doesn't always require

Re: Comments on Civil Time decision tree

2005-09-26 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter Bunclark writes: On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: On the other hand, even if we agree on one standard, or even just leave UTC as it is, are the astronomers and geophysiscists going to abandon UT1 ? If so, then this is the first I've heard

Re: Comments on Civil Time decision tree

2005-09-26 Thread Rob Seaman
On Sep 26, 2005, at 7:09 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Now, what we you mean by civil time standard ? Most countries reserve the definition of civil time for their national parliaments (or other some other tacitly assumed legitimate political power). They generally take UTC, apply a timezone

Re: Comments on Civil Time decision tree

2005-09-26 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Daniel R. Tobias writes : On 26 Sep 2005 at 16:09, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Other more laid back parliaments like the Danish have not been able to find time to revisit the issue since 18xx and still use solar time at some more or less random coordinate. You mean

Re: Comments on Civil Time decision tree

2005-09-26 Thread Rob Seaman
On Sep 26, 2005, at 11:56 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:Again: merely trying to point out that the "only one timescale" argument Rob pushes doesn't work.This misrepresents my position.  There are clearly many time scales for many purposes.  One of those purposes is something that might be referred

Re: Comments on Civil Time decision tree

2005-09-26 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Randy Kaelber writes: On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 02:33:00PM -0400, Daniel R. Tobias wrote: I would suppose that such a space probe would have little need to be synchronized with earthly solar time, and thus might be best off operating on TAI, with any adjustments to

Re: Comments on Civil Time decision tree

2005-09-26 Thread Randy Kaelber
On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 01:13:18AM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Randy Kaelber writes: As an aside, most of the people who were/are on Mars Rover teams that I talked to really liked the extra 30+ minutes a day. The only thing they didn't like was when mundane

Comments on Civil Time decision tree

2005-09-23 Thread Rob Seaman
I've appended what I call the Civil Time Decision Tree v0.5. Reminder - the intent is to provide a scaffolding for characterizing any possible civil time standard (whether practical or not). Please let me know if you perceive holes or inaccuracies in the tree. You will also undoubtedly let me