Re: BBC - Leap second talks are postponed
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rob Seaman writes: On Nov 21, 2005, at 1:53 AM, Clive D.W. Feather wrote: It is NOT CALLED daylight saving and it is NOT saving any daylight. I don't know where you are, but in Denmark we gain close to 60 minutes extra daylight per day except for june/july, so we do in fact save the daylight for better use. It is summer time. Ok, then. Anybody have a suggestion for a general term for which daylight saving and summer time are special instances? Well, local languages have their private definitions, in Denmark it is summertime/wintertime. The Danish version talks about UTC, which is cute since in Denmark legal time is still mean solar time at the Copenhagen Observatory, How does this work in practice? Lots of web hits show Copenhagen in the Central European Timezone, one hour ahead of Greenwich (ignoring the whole summer time issue). Its longitude appears to be 12.66 degrees east, or 50 minutes ahead. Of course we use the same time as everybody else around us, (UTC + 1h/2h) but legally that is approx 14 minutes and 33 seconds wrong. In all likelyhood, a lawyer would point to some international convention or other about time (the meter convention, or some UN/ITU related thing) which has superseeded the old law, but on the book, it is wrong. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.
Re: BBC - Leap second talks are postponed
- Original Message - From: Rob Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LEAPSECS@ROM.USNO.NAVY.MIL Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [LEAPSECS] BBC - Leap second talks are postponed On Nov 21, 2005, at 1:53 AM, Clive D.W. Feather wrote: It is NOT CALLED daylight saving and it is NOT saving any daylight. It is summer time. Ok, then. Anybody have a suggestion for a general term for which daylight saving and summer time are special instances? My argument Seasonal clock adjustment, perhaps? Brian
Re: BBC - Leap second talks are postponed
On Fri, 18 Nov 2005, Ed Davies wrote: On the other hand, I rather snigger at the reservation of the word universal to mean time based on the Earth's rotation. It's all rather parochial but it is the established terminology. Doesn't Universal hint at the join of the SI second and Solar Time? Pete. Ed.
Re: BBC - Leap second talks are postponed
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter Bunclark writes: On Fri, 18 Nov 2005, Ed Davies wrote: On the other hand, I rather snigger at the reservation of the word universal to mean time based on the Earth's rotation. It's all rather parochial but it is the established terminology. Doesn't Universal hint at the join of the SI second and Solar Time? Oftentimes labels of X are put on things to give the impression of a good bit more X than is actually at hand. I suspect that Universal in UTC has the same lineage as democratic in The Democratic Republic of Congo. UTCs proper name would have been ITC, International Time Coordinated. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.
Re: BBC - Leap second talks are postponed
John.Cowan said: GMT is, unfotunately, widely used to mean the time in Britain during winter. Indeed, it is sometimes used to mean that even in the summer. There was some confusion in my company last year about a teleconference scheduled in GMT which turned out to actually refer to British Summer Time. Microsoft *spit* Outlook calendar management talks about GMT Daylight Savings Time or some such idiocy. Every spring I respond to the first appointment request from my boss with so do you want to meet at 10:00 GMT or 10:00 BST?. -- Clive D.W. Feather | Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel:+44 20 8495 6138 Internet Expert | Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Fax:+44 870 051 9937 Demon Internet | WWW: http://www.davros.org | Mobile: +44 7973 377646 Thus plc||
Re: BBC - Leap second talks are postponed
Ed Davies scripsit: GMT is, unfotunately, widely used to mean the time in Britain during winter. Indeed, it is sometimes used to mean that even in the summer. There was some confusion in my company last year about a teleconference scheduled in GMT which turned out to actually refer to British Summer Time. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan This great college [Trinity], of this ancient university [Cambridge], has seen some strange sights. It has seen Wordsworth drunk and Porson sober. And here am I, a better poet than Porson, and a better scholar than Wordsworth, somewhere betwixt and between. --A.E. Housman
