Re: [LU] NONLU: EU

2016-06-09 Thread {broken-address}
t;> from another exiled conviction-free Brit in the land of people who descend >> from bread thieves and so on >> Pete C >> t'original one >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Ian Murray >> Sent

Re: [LU] NONLU: EU

2016-06-09 Thread {broken-address}
hieves and so on >>> Pete C >>> t'original one >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Ian >>> Murray >>> Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2016 8:47 PM >>>

Re: [LU] NONLU: EU

2016-06-09 Thread John Boocock
See also the 45 in Scotland and the Neverendum On 08/06/2016 18:40, Nick wrote: (as an aside, what will be funny if IN is the outcome, will be to see if the OUT lot bugger off quietly into the shadows or whether they will piss and moan claiming the need for another referendum soon…much as

Re: [LU] NONLU: EU

2016-06-08 Thread Nick
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Ian >> Murray >> Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2016 8:47 PM >> To: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net> >> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org >> Subject: Re: [LU] NONLU: EU >> >> I'm voting out not

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2016-06-08 Thread Matt Anderson
100% agree -Original Message- From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of {broken-address} Sent: 08 June 2016 14:42 To: Richard Naef Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] NONLU: EU Not sure I should be dipping a toe into this, but whilst Greece certainly has

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2016-06-08 Thread Richard Naef
> > Greece wants for example 500m to build 14 unnecessary new airports. > Germans win the contract to build airports. Greeks realise there was no > point in the airports and they aren't generating the cash to repay and sell to > Fraport the german airport operator at a knockdown price say 150m. >

Re: [LU] NONLU: EU

2016-06-08 Thread Matt Anderson
[mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Ian Murray Sent: 08 June 2016 14:12 To: Peter Castlehouse Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] NONLU: EU The answer is they do, but it's kind of illusory because most uk citizens in the EU are self funded retirees. They do not impact the job market

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2016-06-08 Thread Richard Naef
> Question: Is it really the case in other EU countries that these retirees > enjoy the luxury of free healthcare? I doubt that very much, but I am > completely ignorant of the state of play as far as that is concerned. > Australia does NOT provide free healthcare for foreign visitors, much

Re: [LU] NONLU: EU

2016-06-08 Thread Ian Murray
The answer is they do, but it's kind of illusory because most uk citizens in the EU are self funded retirees. They do not impact the job market and are a net gain to the host country, spending their pensions and so on. In terms of the Greek debate. I get that they ran out of money, but they

Re: [LU] NONLU: EU

2016-06-08 Thread Matt Anderson
-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Richard Naef Sent: 08 June 2016 12:27 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] NONLU: EU > I'm voting out for reasons of democracy. The commission is the > executive and is unelected. Look at what they did to Greece, the > Greeks voted overwhelming

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2016-06-08 Thread Matt Anderson
Lithuanian women as possible! One of Europe's great natural resources! -Original Message- From: Ian Murray [mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com] Sent: 08 June 2016 11:47 To: Matt Anderson Cc: Richard Naef; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] NONLU: EU I'm voting out not because of any

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2016-06-08 Thread Matt Anderson
Naef'; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] NONLU: EU I see your point on nearly everything you stated here Naefy, but take exception to this one... Hundreds of thousands of Uk residents live in Europe, often retirees, with the attached pressure on the host countries health systems. (/snip

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2016-06-08 Thread Nigel Sykes
> Question: Is it really the case in other EU countries that these retirees > enjoy the luxury of free healthcare? I doubt that very much, but I am > completely ignorant of the state of play as far as that is concerned. As a Brit who lives both in Ireland and France, I can confirm that EU

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2016-06-08 Thread Peter Castlehouse
I see your point on nearly everything you stated here Naefy, but take exception to this one... Hundreds of thousands of Uk residents live in Europe, often retirees, with the attached pressure on the host countries health systems. (/snip> Question: Is it really the case in other EU countries

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2016-06-08 Thread ejwalsh
..@leeds-united.net> > Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org > Subject: Re: [LU] NONLU: EU > > I'm voting out not because of any Muslim issue! > > I'm voting out for reasons of democracy. The commission is the executive and > is unelected. Look at what they did to Greece, the Greek

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2016-06-08 Thread Rob Heath
n Behalf Of Ian > Murray > Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2016 8:47 PM > To: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net> > Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org > Subject: Re: [LU] NONLU: EU > > I'm voting out not because of any Muslim issue! > > I'm voting out for reasons of democracy

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2016-06-08 Thread Ian Murray
I'm voting out not because of any Muslim issue! I'm voting out for reasons of democracy. The commission is the executive and is unelected. Look at what they did to Greece, the Greeks voted overwhelmingly to end the austerity imposed upon them and were ignored. Technocrat governments have been

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2016-06-08 Thread Paul Cundell
On 8 June 2016 at 10:15, Matt Anderson wrote: > Exactly! I despise politicians they are all in it for themselves not us. You > only have to look at boris's pro eu comments when it suited him a couple of > years ago > Or Camerons's volte face on the radical/proud muslim

Re: [LU] NONLU: EU

2016-06-08 Thread Matt Anderson
Exactly! I despise politicians they are all in it for themselves not us. You only have to look at boris's pro eu comments when it suited him a couple of years ago However we voted for them and they should be doing stuff like this. If we don't want them to do that vote them out in 3 years and

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2016-06-08 Thread Richard Naef
> > Rich, I think that's a bit of a (typically) narrow view of it all, there are MP's > across ALL parties who are split on this, it just seems to be the one's in focus > are Gove & Johnson, both of whom are surely stating that they will never > lead the Tories should the remain campo win ...