Not sure why there's an end of season events night when when we've no idea of
the outcome ?
and surely Archie and others should be in bed so they're fresh and ready for
training tomorrow
On Monday, 15 April 2024 at 11:23:56 BST, John Lee via Leedslist
wrote:
Take That got to number
Take That got to number 1 - they’re still sh*te :-)
If Rutter and Summerville can rediscover the form that got them the awards,
then they should absolutely play, but if Saturday was their new level, they can
admire their awards sat on the bench for me? Of course we need to move the ball
Anyway I see that those players who “should be dropped” all won awards last
night.
Including Summerville, player of the season in Champs.
Still eh. What do they know.
I’d rather they were lining up for us, than against us.
Nick
Sent from my iPad
> On 14 Apr 2024, at 20:47, Damian WALSH
I think that Farke has been brilliant and I hope that he long continues to
be so for Leeds United.
But I'm pretty sure that the dropped points these last matches are down to
him and not the players. They are good enough to go (& stay) up but they
need to be let off the leash because they're not
We will lose some/all those named, but of course if they’re not good enough to
get us out of this league, then so be it!
I agree too that Farke will be in a more ‘stable’ position this year than last
too.
All that said, I still hope we somehow find a way to get promoted this season,
and then
If we do not end up getting promoted and lose Gnonto, Summerville, Rutter,
Firpo as may be the case it would be difficult, but not devastating IMO.
So we may end up having to sign 9 or 10 players to replace those being sold
or not re-signing. That’s no more than many clubs will have to do anyway,
Just reflecting a bit more:
Piroe - was pish yesterday, anonymous. He is probably the best pure
finisher we have…and brings nothing else.
Summerville… given the ball standing still, with 3 men to beat, because
half-decent coaches know if they stop him they go half way to stopping
Think Farke said Willy wasn’t 100%.
Agree on Gruev. 4-1-4-1 was our undoing in the end.
On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 at 18:16, Richard Walker via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
> Harsh. Yes he had a really bad game today but over the last few
> weeks, when we’ve looked shit, he’s been the only
Yeah - I saw it too John, enjoyed it!
On Sat, 13 Apr 2024, 12:04 John Lee via Leedslist,
wrote:
> I rarely watch Channel 5, but episode 5 of Susan Calman’s Great British
> Cities is about Leeds and is actually really good - recommended for those
> who’d like to know a bit more about Leeds!
>
Harsh. Yes he had a really bad game today but over the last few weeks, when
we’ve looked shit, he’s been the only one who looks like he can still make
things happen. In fact, it must be difficult for him when our main tactic is to
give the ball to him and ask him to beat 2 or 3 men
Summerville has the potential to play at a higher level, and has demonstrated
that on a few occasions this season. He also ‘appears’ to have an inflated
opinion of his own abilities. He is no dead-ball expert, his passing is
conditional on whether nothing is on for him, he gives the ball away
An absolute sickener. Unlike Tuesday when we were awful, we actually played
pretty well for the most, really took the game to them and did everything but
score The result was a real smash and grab.We just lacked quality with the
final ball and that little bit of luck, Gnonto not quite reaching
Why? He’s been outstanding.
Regularly touted by non-Leeds people as the best in the league.
Nick
> On 13 Apr 2024, at 14:36, Jim Moran wrote:
>
> I think he lost himself today
>
>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 at 14:32, Ed Morrish wrote:
>>
>> UPDATE:
>>
>> I’m no longer worried about losing
I think he lost himself today
On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 at 14:32, Ed Morrish wrote:
> UPDATE:
>
> I’m no longer worried about losing Summerville.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 13 Apr 2024, at 12:13, Ed Morrish wrote:
> >
> > I was talking to an Ipswich mate, and my general assessment of them is
UPDATE:
I’m no longer worried about losing Summerville.
Sent from my iPhone
> On 13 Apr 2024, at 12:13, Ed Morrish wrote:
>
> I was talking to an Ipswich mate, and my general assessment of them is
> they’ve had an amazing season, but if they go up they’ll get battered every
> week - they
I’ve got mates who support Ipswich and Leicester.
They’re both as terrified as we are.
The Ipswich one reckons they are out on their feet and the Leicester one thinks
their heads have gone.
I guess the worry for us is the loss of our better players.
I suspect though that we won’t be under
I was talking to an Ipswich mate, and my general assessment of them is they’ve
had an amazing season, but if they go up they’ll get battered every week - they
simply won’t score enough goals against PL defences. His response was that if
they didn’t go up, he was scared that they’d lose McKenna
I was talking to an Ipswich mate, and my general assessment of them is they’ve
had an amazing season, but if they go up they’ll get battered every week - they
simply won’t score enough goals against PL defences. His response was that if
they didn’t go up, he was scared that they’d lose McKenna
I rarely watch Channel 5, but episode 5 of Susan Calman’s Great British Cities
is about Leeds and is actually really good - recommended for those who’d like
to know a bit more about Leeds!
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I agree totally…
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And I have told y'all before, leave me out of it, or I will invoke the Rev on
the List's utter damnation option! Now, there's a man with true power!
St Peter of St
Betty wrote:
> In the current situation refereeing really needs
> a long hard review. I have seen better at WorldNET.
Jabba wrote:
> I'll take that faint praise.
> It was offside QPR, suck it up...
I agree totally…
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In the current situation refereeing really needs a long hard review. I
have seen better at WorldNET.
I'll take that faint praise.
It
In the current situation refereeing really needs a long hard review. I
have seen better at WorldNET.
Having said that refereeing is what it is. Would we have been unhappy if
the same referee had denied Ipswich three points?
Re the knackered point totally agree John. Both the physical and
Brilliant post.
Nick
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On Thursday, April 11, 2024, 12:52 PM, John Lee via Leedslist
wrote:
I think Farke’s team set up tells us one thing, and that is the players are
knackered. He tried to manage that by being ultra cautious, limiting the
running etc - yes,
I think Farke’s team set up tells us one thing, and that is the players are
knackered. He tried to manage that by being ultra cautious, limiting the
running etc - yes, it was dull, but we’ve had other games like this too. Of
course Sunderland did their job well, the ref was a wildcard no-one
I agree Dave.
I’m usually critical but I don’t think you can find fault overall with DF this
season.
I too was expecting a miserable season but it’s been the best one since Bielsa.
I think generally he doesn’t like to make early subs . I heard an interview
with him where he said one of the ways
2 things can be true at the same time.DF is a proven manager at this level, he
has turned around a sinking ship, and given us a season miles better than we
could have foreseen or even hoped. I have just won a few quid ( for charity)
off my match going son since he bet me in August that we
I'm firmly in Paul's camp on this one.
Did any of you seriously in preseason or while the transfer window was open
expect that we'd do as well as we have so far?
I certainly didn't! I was expecting a season of rebuilding and was hopeful
of the play offs at a push.
Considering the turmoil around
Du calme, du calme
I've got a cigarette paper but I don't think that I can get it between any
of us - even if you're all (me included) saying wildly different things.
To answer Sean:
"- Did you agree with Farke's team selection?- Did you seriously think
Farke got the timing of the subs right
Not a list war, just a difference of opinion. I'm happy we've won 26 games
so far this season, some think we should have won 42. It reminds me of when
we got relegated in 2004 and people said that all they wanted was players
that gave 100%. When we got players who gave 100% they then wanted them
So there we are. Another game week done and we’ve gained a point on
Leicester.
On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 at 19:14, John Lee via Leedslist
wrote:
> Well given what’s going on now in the Middle East, thank god someone left
> the list :-)
>
> I’m pretty much on Paul’s wavelength, but I would like to
Well given what’s going on now in the Middle East, thank god someone left the
list :-)
I’m pretty much on Paul’s wavelength, but I would like to have a beer with
Farke one night so he can explain the thinking in spending most of a half with
the ball going between Meslier/Rodon/Ampadu? By all
Ooooh! A list war!
We haven't had one of them since I don't know how long!
On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 5:41 PM Paul Cundell wrote:
> What an utter rewriting of history!
> We wouldn't be bloody third if it wasn't for Farke. IF this was under
> Marsch bleat bleat bleat we'd have lost 3-0. If not we
What an utter rewriting of history!
We wouldn't be bloody third if it wasn't for Farke. IF this was under
Marsch bleat bleat bleat we'd have lost 3-0. If not we would ALL to a man
have been singing his praises if he'd been unbeaten at home after 21 games.
You moan about us not going down the wings
The one I went to with Claire, Mick and Becks was a hoot!
On 10 April 2024 15:55:00 BST, Leeds United wrote:
>Leeds United is pleased to announce the return of the Player of the Year
>Awards, with the evening event set to take place on Thursday 18th April 2024
>
Paul,
None of that matters if we don't get promoted. Next season we'll have a weaker
squad (we're constantly being told that we're going to have to sell if we don't
go up), a smaller budget (smaller parachute payment in the second season down)
and have to compete with three clubs coming down
H. I don't know all the ins and outs of the rules - but would we not
have risked FFP sanctions if all those players hadn't been offloaded?
With the possible exception of Tyler Adams I don't think that we've missed
any of them anyway - I can barely (ie "can't") remember who they all were
Ha ha! Funny you should say that. He gave us a slightly generous freekick
very early on, and I foolishly said to my wife "Yes! I think I'm going to
like this ref!" How wrong I was!
On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 4:22 PM Richard Walker via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
> I actually forgot to
I actually forgot to mention the ref. Sometimes you know after 5 mins that the
ref just isn't up to it ! That was the case with this guy and he really
shouldn't be reffing at this level and that's nothing to do with the penalty
that should have been. He was awful.
However, he wasn't the
The highlight of the evening for me was discovering they serve Neck Oil on
draught in the downstairs North East Bar. Now, don't get me wrong, Neck Oil is
not my favourite beer and I wouldn't buy it in a Leeds pub but compared to the
bath water they pass off as beer normally in the bars, it is
There's literally no pleasing some folks.
On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 at 13:49, Paul Cundell wrote:
> Have you been watching the same season as me?
> "One long slow motion car crash"?
> We're UNBEATEN at home and we've lost ONCE this year.
> We've got 87 points and the manager you're so angry at
Yes, indeed Paul.
Nick
> On 10 Apr 2024, at 13:48, Paul Cundell wrote:
>
> Have you been watching the same season as me?
> "One long slow motion car crash"?
> We're UNBEATEN at home and we've lost ONCE this year.
> We've got 87 points and the manager you're so angry at masterminded that.
> A
Have you been watching the same season as me?
"One long slow motion car crash"?
We're UNBEATEN at home and we've lost ONCE this year.
We've got 87 points and the manager you're so angry at masterminded that.
A car crash was Jesse Marsch.
A car crash was all Orta's release clauses being triggered
Has just announced that he is retiring - the damage to his knee has proved
irreparable.
There’s a long letter on Twitter (and I dare say, other places) where he pays
tribute to Bielsa & Martin O’Neill, Liam Cooper, the medical team and the fans.
It's been a while coming, but still sad enough
You're absolutely right. I haven't been this angry at a Leeds manager in some
time. What the hell is he telling the players? We have two of the most
devastating wingers in the league, including (possibly) the fastest winger
(fastest player?) in the division in Dan James. At no point during
Don't get frustrated with Cree & (especially) Georgino losing the ball. A
mild grinding of teeth will have to do :)
If they're losing the ball then they're doing their job trying to provoke
something and we've got to accept that it doesn't come off every time.
However the number of times they
"We don’t have to finish above both Ipswich and Leicester, just one of them
will do."
Which is what I've been saying for weeks. We Need to be in first position
otherwise we become the sole target. To get promoted tgey only have to achieve
second place. First would be great but second still
I decided against commenting immediately Nick, because it was a pretty
under-whelming display. Like you, I think the players look knackered, and have
just lost their mojo. Summerville & Rutter have had some really ineffective
moments, and I can’t deny how frustrating their constant losing the
Notable lack of comments on here since Saturday.
Ampadu - Meslier - Rodon
My foremost impression from last night was how tired everyone in the starting
outfield 10 looked. With the exception of Gruev, and possibly Gray, they were
listless, not just physically less sharp - slower to the loose
I joined 10,000 other fans in the MNES last night to watch the FA Youth
Cup semi-final against Millwall.
An end to end game where the kids did brilliantly by beating a very good
Millwall side.
Defender Daniel Toulson was excellent and forward Rhys Chadwick also
showed great promise.
I'm
If we don’t get promoted the situation won’t arise.
After his time at City and performances at West Ham I don’t think anyone
will pay anywhere near £30M for him.
Given that we have been short of cover or anyone on the bench in that role
this season due to Ampadu and Archie playing othe
France is the obvious place for him - where most Ligue 1 matches are played
at (it seems) walking pace. I wonder if PSG would still be interested?
Le mer. 3 avr. 2024 à 18:21, Richard Walker via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> a écrit :
> Isn't this exactly as it was supposed to play out ?
>
His confidence is obviously completely shot. You can tell if you watch
closely that his team mates, at City, Wham & even England, don't trust him
with the ball and won;t pass to him unless he is in acres of space. And
once you've lost the confidence of your team mates in football, you're
finished.
Isn't this exactly as it was supposed to play out ?
Before Bielsa, Phillips was hopeless. Bielsa gave him the ideal role where his
pace wasn't exposed in a unique system. It worked the majority of the time but
even then he had some stinkers with Bielsa subbing him early (at half time
once) a
The transfer rumours page on bbc sport reckoned citeh would want £30m for him.
Seems steep given his lack of game time for two seasons.
He’s not coped with going from Bielsa, who built the team around him, to other
coaches who expect him to fit in their style of play.
Sent from Outlook for
We'd need to get promoted first as i suspect Man City will still want
£10m+
If we are promoted i suspect midfield will need to be upgraded - though
Kamara looks more vulnerable than Gruev (who we really missed on Monday)
and that's not really Kalvin's position.
Easy to dismiss him as a
Seeing quite a bit of “speculation” that KP might come back to Leeds in the
summer.
Loved him under Bielsa… but he was pretty average prior to those master classes.
And, who would he replace…not Gruev, possibly Kamara, & hopefully he wouldn’t
block Archie Gray’s development.
I think that ship
Gruev was a much bigger miss.
Dan James’ goal… how long have I waited to see a keeper up for a corner, caught
out.
Just keep ploughing on, it’s all we can do.
Nick
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> On 2 Apr 2024, at 13:16, John Boocock wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> You didn't mention Connor, do you think we
One of many great pleasures of this season has been the commentary on LUTV.
Bryn Law & Tony Dorigo are 24 carat diamonds, and the former's rising
crescendo of Summerville, *Summerville*, SUMMERVILLE!! as Cree dances
in from the left to score is unforgettable.
Sadly, I can't afford to pay a
Dave,
You didn't mention Connor, do you think we missed him too? From the
comfort of the armchair I pondered this at length.
Betty
On 02/04/2024 11:15, nattan--- via Leedslist wrote:
We were chasing shadows a bit, Kamara having a mare, Gray showing why he
is not first choice midfield yet.
Great report - thanks Dave.
Jonathan in Dartford
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Well that went from worry to relief to ecstasy very quickly.On 85
minutes it looked like a pretty poor
Well that went from worry to relief to ecstasy very quickly.On 85 minutes it
looked like a pretty poor performance was going to end with 2 points dropped,
then by 89 it was relief all round as 2-1 would be enough, then total fun and
laughter as James scored as great a goal to watch as you
There's a long way to go yet...and that's just today!
All I will admit is that we are looking a safe bet for the playoffs at
least.
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I nearly wrote something hubristically incorrect.Scrubbed it out just in
time :)
But this really does feel like spring '90 at the moment...
Damian
Le ven. 29 mars 2024 à 16:02, Damian WALSH a
écrit :
> Start worrying..
>
> Le ven. 29 mars 2024 à 15:57, Richard Walker via Leedslist <
>
Start worrying..
Le ven. 29 mars 2024 à 15:57, Richard Walker via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> a écrit :
> Yep , no more games in hand for others now. We’re top and it’s in our own
> hands.
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 29, 2024, 2:23 pm, John Boocock wrote:
>
> Bristol City 1 Leicester 0
Yep , no more games in hand for others now. We’re top and it’s in our own
hands.
On Friday, March 29, 2024, 2:23 pm, John Boocock wrote:
Bristol City 1 Leicester 0
Damage done.
Betty
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Damage done.
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Who's all going?
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Folks,
Got something in East Stand Upper L38 last evening for Monday evening.
First, Watford!
James.
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Folks,
I have gotten flights and accommodation for next Monday evening in Leeds. My
ticket source got confused - all my fault - and gave my ticket back while I was
booking the other pieces of puzzle.
If any of you have anything to spare, please keep me in your thoughts? It will
be my first
Absolutely agree. VAR is an abomination.
Nick (2)
On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 07:11:56 AM EDT, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
wrote:
…all of which has just reminded me of the best reason not to go up - fucking
VAR. I have not missed it for one second this season. Not even that ridiculous
few things from me.
It was warm
They had some cool Guinness serving machines in the West Stand and it was
actually decent to drink
Millwall were awful and just came for a 0-0 and tried to kick us of the park
It was one of the lowest crowds of the season due to the terrible away support.
We
…all of which has just reminded me of the best reason not to go up - fucking
VAR. I have not missed it for one second this season. Not even that ridiculous
decision.
(Of course I want to go up)
Nick
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> On 18 Mar 2024, at 11:00, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk wrote:
>
> Thanks
Thanks Dave, agree with that.
The non-penalty was difficult to see from the Kop, but when you see the replay
and the ref’s positioning - which was good - it is impossible to understand how
he didn’t give it.
Having then let play run until they got a free kick on the edge of our box, he
then
It’s still beyond me how we didn’t get a penalty, and how that lanky twat at
the back stayed on the pitch - when on a yellow card there were 3 more bookable
challenges!
I can accept that referees don’t see everything, but he was staring right at
the Rodon incident - it's hard to understand
The " no-one likes us" derby as some repoter called jt, ended as it should with
3pts and us " top top top of the league"
It was a bitter sweet day for me, arrived in the pub to the news that my all
time musical hero Steve Harley had died , but left Leeds train station with us
no1
This was a
Cheers I am in N10 row D in the front row, i have never voluntarily sat down,
we were forced to a couple of times under Bates (( the stewards rarely got to
the second tier) so, as you say it will make little practical difference, i
can already lean on the wall in front of me albeit the
Hi Dave
I sit in Row X right at the back of the KOP. We have had rail seats in for a
while now. We can officially stand during the whole game now, the stewards were
very keen to inform us of this during the first game with the Rail Seats (to
much laughter). I reckon I have had a season ticket
Just had an email from the club saying they are extending the rail seats to
cover the whole of Revie Stand Upper, as from Hull game.
Anyone on here sit at the back of the stand and already have a rail seat ? If
so any views ?Obviously i have seen them behind me but not paid any attention
Dave
"The Leeds are going up the Wednesday going down, going up, going down, going
up going down" was the song that reverberated around the ground for the last
10mins as we started to celebrate what was looking at that stage as the
inevitable victory. The Leeds fans had been in good voice all
Whilst accepting this season has been lightyears ahead of the last 2 seasons,
in terms of football played, our squad, manager etc, it’d be very unambitious
to wish for another season or two like it in the Championship, just because
it’d be an easier watch.
Yes, there’s trepidation about what
Obviously going up is the best option. I was just ruminating a bit in my
previous post. But the fact remains it is a daunting prospect. (And i have
enjoyed not having world class strikers padding their career records at our
expense this season!)
I think everybody assumes and expects that the
I’ve also been thinking about this and when considering the alternatives
I’d say ‘YES’.
I’d say it would be great go up this year, but if not, promotion is
practically essential next time before the parachute payment reduces and
then disappears.'
If/when we get there, there will be some
Yeah; there's been some discussion on the WhatsApp about this, and my
position is that I want Leeds United Football Club to win every match, and
that means being in the Premier League next season. And I don't think we'll
be Sheffield United, because we're better-resourced and better-experienced;
Yes! I do want us to go up!
Surely, the whole point of having a pyramid system is that you want to get
to the top! Otherwise, what's the point??
I want to see us on MOTD, and hear us talked about. Yes, we had our
disappointments when we were there, but we also had some great moments.
Won't we be
"All we can do is win and hope"...indeed. But then there's the
conundrum of DO WE REALLY WANT TO GO UP? This season has been SO enjoyable!
And I was watching Sheff U's pathetic attempt to match Arsenal the other
night with so much schadenfreudesque pleasurebut there was a
As usual, a great assessment Dave, agree with everything.
On the way home, the radio Leeds team saw it differently and seemed to
think we were always in control! Didn't look like that to me in the 2nd
half from NE Upper!
3 points is all that matters at this stage tho, all we can do is win and
Totally agree Dave. If we win we win! Last weekend may be the non-win
that our season pivits on.
Thanks for your report, they are always appreciated!
Betty
On 06/03/2024 11:02, nattan--- via Leedslist wrote:
sheff Wednesday is a ' must-win" , mind you aren't they all at this stage?
The pattern of that match was v similar to the Plymouth home cuptie. In the
2nd half they started to press and with a 1-0 lead Farke evidently
instructed Meslier not to pass out from the back, but the succession of
long balls just kept giving them the ball back. Thankfully the difference
was that
Following the absolute ecstasy of the Leicester game, this was absolute relief,
especially as the literal last kick of the game was a brilliant chance to them
inside the area , poorly struck and well saved by Mes. All game we wanted (
and felt we needed that second to ensure the 3 pts.
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It’s hard to know quite how good he’s going to get, and mind-boggling that the
next Gray coming through our youth ranks is reportedly even better?
The club should be paying the Grays to procreate more ;-)
> On 29 Feb 2024, at 09:16, Damian WALSH wrote:
>
> " Gray, so bold and
" Gray, so bold and elegant on the ball, ran the game"
From the Guardian
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n...@6haroldplace.co.uk> a écrit :
>
> Archie Gray in midfield.
>
> That is all.
>
> Nick
>
>
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Archie Gray in midfield.
That is all.
Nick
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I think it was Villa v Southampton but may be wrong. He certainly played
for Southampton for a while.
All good goals too, proper headers and slices. No questionable
deflections.
KOT
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Chris Nicholl. I'm pretty sure it was him who once scored all 4 goals in a
2-2 draw between Villa and Leicester.
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The song you sang re Bowles had a much better rendition at Elland Rd, with the
added bonus it rhymed :-)
I’d walk a million miles
To see Johnny Giles
Score a penaltt
> On 25 Feb 2024, at 14:12, seanscribe--- via Leedslist
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> The next day one of the papers had the headline
The next day one of the papers had the headline "A-Revie-derci." My dad had to
explain the pun to me.
On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 03:48:58 AM EST, Robert Heath
wrote:
Me and two mates hitchhiked to Rome to watch England play Italy in a WC
Qualifier. Revie was the boss and the team
Me and two mates hitchhiked to Rome to watch England play Italy in a WC
Qualifier. Revie was the boss and the team he put out was a bit odd. IIRC
we had Brian Greenhoff & Trevor Cherry in midfield. But up front we had
Stan Bowles, and I remember walking through the streets of Rome singing "Oh
oh
sadly, I heartily agree Damian. Not only the fact that names we saw as the same
generation and similar infringing, but the fact that at one time, and not that
long ago, we might have said that at 75, at least he had a decent "innings" -
now, we look horrified and say "but he was "Only" 75"! -
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