Depends on what the file will be doing. JPG files are lossy files, so they
lose some detail every time they're opened and then saved. Their benefit is
small file sizes (hence why they're almost the standard in digital cameras).
TIFF are lossless files, which retain their total information even
If your source documents are numbered and your sources have File ID's
with the same number than it's easy for a reader to figure it out. Or
named similarly. I think the idea is that they have to match somehow
which is already what you're saying.
JL
JLiki - creating your own genealogy wiki
Opening jpg's does not cause a loss in picture quality. Only if they're
repeatedly edited.
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html
Barrie Smart wrote:
Depends on what the file will be doing. JPG files are lossy files,
so they lose some detail
Really? I have thousands of files named without underscores.
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html
Barrie Smart wrote:
Windows won't look at a filename with spaces - therefore the
underscore. Whether you load in on the 'Net is not the issue
Hi Cathy,
It is technically valid to use a space in a file name that will be
accessed on the Internet but it can sometimes be confusing for some
people and whilst some software will let you address the file using a
space others will require that you encode the spaces so Sam Smith
Letter.jpg
I merged the files a couple of wks ago and have edited a lot, but just now
thought of the Master Location List, this was the only time I've ever merged
another persons file into mine, and yes, I certainly should have checked the
file before merging it.
I didn't know you could undo a merge,
I wrote a post a long time ago about cleaning up the Master Location
List, but I don't know if it's still relevant with all the things people
are doing to be compatible with pins on the maps. If you want to try it
anyway it's at http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/2007-01-16-master_locations.shtml
JL
Is there any problem with using periods instead of underscores? i.e.,
Sam.Smith.letter.jpg
Or dashes? i.e., Sam-Smith-letter.jpg
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Dave Mellors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Cathy,
It is technically valid to use a space in a file name that will be accessed
on the
The periods can be a problem with some software (particularly some of
the older operating systems) but the dashes seem like a good solution.
Your file name would be readable and the added benefit that search
engines work well with dashes.
Unfortunately, it's too late for me. I have got into
Small correction, TIFF is actually a container file (basically like a
filing cabinet). The images containted within the file can actually
be lossless _OR_ lossy. Please reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagged_Image_File_Format#Flexible_options
If you use TIFF (I do) and want
To add to Dave's comments, it is best when creating file names which may at
some time be used on the internet to use only alphanumeric characters, except
for the underscore and hyphen. Many other characters can cause problems in
links etc. Only recently I had a mapping site which told me to
I would think the important thing is check the saved copy to see that you
have not lost any detail. You can usually reduce the size of a JPG file
dramatically without losing anything important, you can always archive a
higher resolution copy if you think you might need to edit it at some time
in
According to one of the training videos you should use either .bmp or .tiff
files. The reasosn is that .jpg files loose data and quality if you edit
them.
- Original Message -
From: Cathy Vallevieni [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 05,
Not true. Windows is perfectly happy to use filenames that contain
spaces. Most of the pictures that I have attached to people, events,
sources, etc. in Legacy contain spaces. For example, I routinely use
file names of the type Bob Janice - Birth Certificate.jpg. Windows
and Legacy have
Sorry about the last sentence , it should have read '...a lot of Ubuntu folks
might migrate to Legacy ...'.
Senior moment!!!
Bob
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sherry - any plans afoot at Millenia to come up with a method that allows
Legacy to operate on Unbuntu Linux OS? I love Ubuntu and
Sherry - any plans afoot at Millenia to come up with a method that allows
Legacy to operate on Unbuntu Linux OS? I love Ubuntu and especially Legacy, but
I've discovered (as you observed) that it isn't possible at the moment. There
are a lot of Legacy folks who might migrate to Legacy if this
I hope I'm understanding the question correctly. It's easy to add a PDF to a
master source or source detail. You click on the picture icon and when you
get the little picture window, there are four icons across the top where you
choose to add picture, sound, video, or file which can, as I
I want to comment on a few things in the statements below. You can open a
JPG file as many times as you like and close it with no change. The word
save is problematic because people use it in more than one context. You
can send a file to someone and they can save it to any place on their
The difference between one generation and the next is not always visible,
but if you compare generation one with generation eight it probably will be.
Also, what you see on screen (equivalent to about 72 dpi) vs. a printed
image may be different. You can't always rely on visual interpretation
I do it all the time! But I use FOX-IT Reader (from the folks at
FIREFOX) - it allows some editing and form filling for a printout (but
not to save unless you pay for a license).
Keith
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:41 AM, Cathy Vallevieni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am considering attaching a
Thank you everyone that responded. Quite an education. I'm glad I
asked while I only have 3 documents attached to sources. I'm going
to change everything to a safe format that will work on all
instances (probably use dashes). Hope this helps other newbies.
Cathy Vallevieni
Orange County,
It isn't really undo-ing but deleting the merged file
and re-merging the two edited files. If they are still
there.
Rich in LA CA
--- Syble Glasscock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I merged the files a couple of wks ago and have
edited a lot, but just now thought of the Master
Location List, this
The Source Citation that Ancestry gives is 1860; Census Place:
Madison, Jefferson, Indiana; Roll: M653-270; Page: 840; Image 545.
The page number written by the Census Taker at the top of the actual
image is page 104.
Which page number do I enter in the Source Detail or do I enter both
in
I went to the website and think it may help, I've got other obligations for a
few days, but I really appreciate this, I'll do this when I have a little more
time.
This family file I imported was from PAF, and he had been working on it for
years, had done many many interviews with our
Has anyone found that using .jpg or .tiff or another format is best
for attaching a scanned 1-page written document to a Source? I know
these will open in any photo program so most people will be able to
view them just like they can a photo.
Thanks.
Cathy Vallevieni
Orange County, CA
Cathy,
Cathy:
In _EE_ the recommendation is to enter both in this format:
840 (stamped), 104 (penned)
I've been putting both in the same field in the template.
Kirsten
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Cathy
Vallevieni
Sent: Tuesday, August 05,
Kirsten:
Thank you. I think I will do the same. Better to have too much than
too little.
Cathy Vallevieni
Orange County, CA
At 10:16 AM 8/5/2008, you wrote:
Cathy:
In _EE_ the recommendation is to enter both in this format:
840 (stamped), 104 (penned)
I've been putting both in the same
I like to save jpg or tiff scans of one page documents to a pdf file. That
format is known and used in many countries and almost every computer has Adobe
Reader software on it, as most software manuals and US gov forms are offered in
this format.
The utility, FastStone Image viewer, is free
Thanks, Chap, that was just the info I needed. All is well again.
Elsie
- Original Message -
From: Leon Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] marriage status
Elsie:
You probably need to
Mary:
Thank you for the reply. I converted a jpg to a pdf to see the
results myself but thank you for the offer to send a copy.
I like the results. Much easier to read on the screen in pdf than in
a picture browser as a jpg. I think I may go back and get all the
Census and similar
Sherry:
Thanks for the detailed explanation. It was extremely helpful and I
will follow your advice. I'm sure others will benefit from it as well.
Cathy Vallevieni
Orange County, CA
At 10:54 AM 8/5/2008, you wrote:
I don't know which training video you're referring to but my
At one time I put all my jpg images (such as census records and scanned
marriage certificates) into pdf because I thought it was so neat and
nifty. I later changed them all back to jpg's for two reasons. One, I
can see them directly when they're linked into Legacy and two, for
IPTC-embedded
JL,
You can see attached sources in pdf format from within Legacy when they're
linked to a source. You just click on the photo icon to get them to open in
Adobe reader, just as the jpg's open in an image viewer when clicked.
This works in Legacy v6, too, not just in Legacy v7. You just need
Cathy Vallevieni wrote:
I like the results. Much easier to read on the screen in pdf than in a
picture browser as a jpg. I think I may go back and get all the Census
and similar documents that I can from Ancestry, etc. and resave all of
them as originals to a pdf file which should make them
Yes, I know you can see the icon for attached files. But I like to see
the pictures themselves when I'm in the Assigned Sources window. Just
personal taste. I also have pdf's linked for some of the Master Sources.
IPTC is embedded info which can include many things: caption, caption
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
Fry
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 2:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Which file is best for a 1-page written
document?
Cathy Vallevieni wrote:
I like the
JL:
Good point, especially for 1-page documents where you can see the
actual document at the bottom of the Source screen and in other
reports without having to open it in Adobe. PDF probably still makes
more sense for multiple page documents, however.
Now I'll have to decide whether I want
Randolph Clark wrote
While attempting to save Source Detail clicking Save did nothing until
I unchecked Include This Citation On Reports.
If by did nothing you mean that the window did not close, I have had
the same problem occasionally. In fact, the Save was working because
when I closed
I found the archives. If anyone else is wondering where they are
go to the Legacy Home tab, then click on the Help Center
button, go down the list to Email Lists and just under the
title of the page (Legacy Mailing Lists) is Archives. Click on
that and you can read to your heart's content.
I've been chatting with Geoff on this he sticks with using the larger
file size pictures because if you create charts in Legacy Charting and the
resolution isn't high enough, the pictures will be pixilated.
However if you have too many large pictures linked in the Picture Gallery,
you'll find
Magnifying images in Windows Picture and Fax Viewer (and Legacy at
times) is a nuisance, so I never use it. There's a tool called Virtual
Magnifying Glass that works much better on any screen. And it's free.
http://magnifier.sourceforge.net/
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for
Pat Jones wrote:
I found the archives. If anyone else is wondering where they are
go to the Legacy Home tab, then click on the Help Center
button, go down the list to Email Lists and just under the
title of the page (Legacy Mailing Lists) is Archives. Click on
that and you can read to your
Pat,
For the benefit of others, look at the end of *every* LUG email - it's not just
small print :-)
Ron Ferguson
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I'll just make a quick comment here.
If you are sharing a lot of documents etc with someone on dialup or who
is using an older system, you might want to chat with them before
totally switching to pdf. They can be a real problem for those on very
slow speed dialup (which for some is all that
For whatever it's worth, this has happened (system hanging up when
I clicked Close in Source Detail) to me 2-3 times in the last 2 days.
Cathy Vallevieni
Orange County, CA
At 03:36 PM 8/5/2008, you wrote:
Randolph Clark wrote
While attempting to save Source Detail clicking Save did nothing
I clearly don't understand subsequent citations yet. The manual and the Help
are not helpful. In the example that I am working with, I have cited the
master source (a collection of death records) 4 times for one individual
(birth, death, death cause, and research notes). I have been using the
JL,
I know how to edit th Master Location list to get rid of cemetery
names. But before doing that, if I tag every one I want to have
buried in, say, Evergreen Cemetery can I get them all into Evergreen
Cemetery in the burial address field (the one you get to via the +
sign) at one fell
JL:
Cool tool!
Cathy Vallevieni
Orange County, CA
At 04:12 PM 8/5/2008, you wrote:
Magnifying images in Windows Picture and Fax Viewer (and Legacy at
times) is a nuisance, so I never use it. There's a tool called
Virtual Magnifying Glass that works much better on any screen. And it's
Now that you've got a list of people showing for say, Evergreen
Cemetery, at least you know who's there. I'm thinking and I think the
problem is there's no batch-mode for entering information. But it's
alot quicker than it used to be because you can edit directly from that
screen. We used
Did I read here that you have to limit the size of your photos, source
documents, etc., because the database can only hold so much? (That's
an elegant sentence, isn't it?) Or did I make that up? I don't know
where I would get that -- those things are linked, not stored in the
actual
Ward:
This may help with parts of your questions . . .
The Subsequent Citation format, I think, is mis-named to some degree. As
the manual says, it's used in the *same places* as the footnotes/endnotes
but uses a different format that doesn't require as much room. So rather
than actually being
Hi all,
I have Legacy 7, and backing up seems to take more steps now. First, I have
to tell it what to name the file, and then I have to back it up.
I like to use keyboard shortcuts whenever I can (instead of the mouse). Here
is what I seem to need to do:
Alt + F, B. This gets me to the backup
You could drag the Backup icon onto the toolbar.
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html
Dee wrote:
Hi all,
I have Legacy 7, and backing up seems to take more steps now. First,
I have to tell it what to name the file, and then I have to back
Sometimes the mouse IS the shortcut.
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html
JLB wrote:
You could drag the Backup icon onto the toolbar.
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html
Dee wrote:
Hi
Thanks, but that means using the mouse to access it instead of the keyboard,
right? I would like to use the keyboard. It seems like there should be a
shortcut or that the backup button should have priority over some of the
other items that are on the tab journey.
Dee Whiting.
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008
Thank you. I just figured out I can do a Shift+Tab to tab backwards. This
way, it's only four tabs.
Another thing: Some of the buttons don't have shortcuts. Often Cancel or
Close requires mousing instead of Alt+a letter. Any way around that? For
example, open a person's individual info screen.
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