RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy freezing.

2008-09-12 Thread ronald ferguson
You make some important points there, Rich. I would suggest that making detailed notes of any problems is not only helpful for oneself though, but is of great help to the bug catchers and even LUG when trying to explain what has happened. It is not really possible to suggest ways of

[LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as Invisible Bug

2008-09-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,I consider the addition of the setting individuals to invisible feature in Legacy 7 to be absolutely the thing that I need to sanitize my tree before exporting. Private or Living is not sufficient since the existence people needs to be hidden. Unfortunate therefore that this feature does not

RE: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as Invisible Bug

2008-09-12 Thread ronald ferguson
John, I know of a couple of problems with this function, and have found a work around for one of them, but would you please explain what you problem is in detail. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages -

Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Individual Information screen Event display

2008-09-12 Thread Jenny M Benson
Christina wrote: On the Individual Information Screen you have a box listed as Event/Facts First Column has Event/Fact, the second column shows Date next is Description Is there a way to not have the Date column there? Probably not, but if you position your cursor over the join between

Re: [LegacyUG] fake messages from Geoff

2008-09-12 Thread Ann Parsons
Perhaps forward them on to the U.S. Government site. [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ann New Mexico, USA - Original Message - From: Terri Brownmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent:

Re: [LegacyUG] fake messages from Geoff

2008-09-12 Thread Melody B
Do you folks (at Legacy) need any other samples? I expect not, but on the off chance that more samples would help you track down where they are coming from... Great product! Take care, Melody If not now, when? On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 6:25 AM, Ann Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps

Re: [LegacyUG] another bug

2008-09-12 Thread Gene Young
Gary Templeman wrote: Ruth, Did you check out any of the solutions I posted yesterday? The entire series of messages on this topic today seems to indicate *no one* has considered what I posted as viable options. I listed three PDF converters and you can Google for more. Personally, if I had

Re: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as Invisible Bug

2008-09-12 Thread Marie Connelly
Hopefully this bug will be fixed in the next update.  I think we just have to wait and see.  I'm interested in a fix for the feature that excludes living people as if they don't exist.   Marie --- On Fri, 9/12/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

[LegacyUG] Bugs, Bugs and rush to be first.

2008-09-12 Thread Michael A. Palmieri
Fellow Listers, I have been on the sidelines reading the banter concerning v.7 and am quite miffed with all the bashing. I also realize that the product should not have been released from Beta without more QC... that said. SourceWriter, reporting tools and the new charting application will

[LegacyUG] Re: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as Invisible Bug

2008-09-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ron,Basically if you edit an individual's privacy settings and set him to invisible, he should not appear on any exports or web pages, nor should his descendents. This is what invisible is supposed to do.I have I have done a number of experiments to see if there is anything related to invisible

Re: [LegacyUG] Bugs, Bugs and rush to be first.

2008-09-12 Thread Bob
Michael A. Palmieri wrote: The user whose data is mission critical should at least sit out the first few releases if generating reports or building your cited sources list is mission critical. The folks at Millennia assured us repeatedly that we were sitting out the better part of a year's

RE: [LegacyUG] fake messages from Geoff

2008-09-12 Thread Sherry/Support
Won’t do much good unless you know how to include the original headers when you forward it. Most spammers are off-shore anyway and there's not much the US Government can do about it - and if it's received in another country, they're not going to do anything unless the spam is originating in the

RE: [LegacyUG] fake messages from Geoff

2008-09-12 Thread Sherry/Support
Nope - we got them too. Jim's going to look into it to see what he can do. I'd sure hate to have to block Geoff's email! Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When

Re: [LegacyUG] Index

2008-09-12 Thread Brian/Support
Ruth, The problem you reported has been tested and is confirmed. A report has been recorded in our problem tracking system so this can be fixed. Thank you for helping us make Legacy a better program for everyone. The problem report was entered yesterday and is now marked as resolved by the

RE: [LegacyUG] Bugs, Bugs and rush to be first.

2008-09-12 Thread Michael A. Palmieri
Bob, If you heeded the advice of my previous post you wouldn't be in any position to have any problems. When you say they told you... who is they? Did you really speak to anyone. Finally, what did your post value add for an end-user... think about it (more gibberish)! Michael A.

RE: [LegacyUG] fake messages from Geoff

2008-09-12 Thread Michael A. Palmieri
Sherry, Block it until you can fix it... spare us please! Michael A. Palmieri From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] fake messages from Geoff Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:31:04 -0700 Nope - we got them too. Jim's going to look into

RE: [LegacyUG] fake messages from Geoff

2008-09-12 Thread Michael A. Palmieri
Sherry, To ignore something you assume we have control. It is your organization that has control of the issue and the barking from fellow listers should let you know we do not want you to ignore it. Block the address (your statement tells us you can) until you can fix it. We do not need a

Re: [LegacyUG] Bugs, Bugs and rush to be first.

2008-09-12 Thread Kathy Shiell-Stokes
It is nearly impossible to anticipate all the possible permutations of hardware and software conflicts that can result. Perhaps we should all take comfort in the idea that, at the end of the day, everyone who has spotted a bug or imperfection has contributed significantly to the improvement

Re: [LegacyUG] Index

2008-09-12 Thread Mike Fry
Michael A. Palmieri wrote: Brian, When can we expect to reap the rewards of such bug fixes? Until then it is further rhetoric. On past performance with version 6, updates were released about every 3 months. As the last update to version 7 came in July, I wouldn't expect a further fix

Re: [LegacyUG] fake messages from Geoff

2008-09-12 Thread Art Seddon
Sherry, I might suggest that you ask Geoff to get another e:mail address and unsubscribe his current address and resubscribe with the new one. He wouldn't have to abandon the old one except for Legacy, but if someone is spoofing his old one he would probably be wise to make the change

[LegacyUG] Legacy freezing and fake message

2008-09-12 Thread Syble Glasscock
I just wanted to say that I too have had a little problem with Legacy 7 freezing, probably about 3 times, all of a sudden, nothing works and it just shuts down on its own.  It has happen about 3 or 4 times.  I never had this problem with v. 5 or v. 6.   Also, I too receive a fake message from

RE: [LegacyUG] I now have done the RTF the right way and

2008-09-12 Thread Sherry/Support
The issue is that everyone's computer setups are different and everyone uses Legacy differently. I've had people report errors to me that I've never seen and it took several emails and pinpointing to *one* minor difference between options where I was able to duplicate a problem. There are

RE: [LegacyUG] fake messages from Geoff

2008-09-12 Thread Ron Bernier
My spam filter apparently is working great. I haven't received any of these spam messages. Regards, Ron Bernier Woonsocket, RI From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael A. Palmieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 12:04 PM To:

[LegacyUG] Legacy freezing and fake message

2008-09-12 Thread Syble Glasscock
I just wanted to say that I too have had a little problem with Legacy 7 freezing, , all of a sudden,  it just shuts down on its own.  It has happen about 3 or 4 times.  I never had this problem with v. 5 or v. 6.   Also, I too receive a fake message from geoff, but I recognized something was

Re: [LegacyUG] another bug

2008-09-12 Thread Gary Templeman
- Original Message - From: Gene Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 4:43 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] another bug Gary Templeman wrote: Ruth, Did you check out any of the solutions I posted yesterday? The entire series

RE: [LegacyUG] Re: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as Invisible Bug

2008-09-12 Thread ronald ferguson
John, I haven't looked for a while, but you are correct in saying that it does not work in web pages. However I recently noticed (this week) that two relatives were missing from a Descendant Book Report and this was because some time ago when I was really looking at the invisible function, I

RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy freezing.

2008-09-12 Thread Sherry/Support
If you send these problems to us at [EMAIL PROTECTED], we’ll work with you to help solve them. There's no need to wait for someone else to post a similar problem. Make sure you include: the build of Legacy you're using (Legacy Home tab) which version of Windows you have what you're doing at

[LegacyUG] Status of bugs

2008-09-12 Thread Geoff Rasmussen
Dave wanted me to pass along that an update will be coming soon - likely next week. It will address lots and lots of concerns. He/Ken have been having a major bug-busting fest. Thank you for your patience. Just a few more days Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[LegacyUG] Is this possible?

2008-09-12 Thread Michele Lewis
Is it possible to tag every instance of when a particular source was used, delete those sources, then assign a new source to all of those places? michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages:

Spam (was RE: [LegacyUG] Bugs, Bugs and rush to be first.)

2008-09-12 Thread Sherry/Support
Michael, Most likely someone's computer was hijacked by a Trojan or worm and Geoff's email address was plucked out of the address book and used for the return address. We all keep our computers clean and are careful about the attachments we open. Geoff's computer wasn't involved at all as seen

Re: [LegacyUG] fake messages from Geoff

2008-09-12 Thread Gene Young
Michael A. Palmieri wrote: Sherry, To ignore something you assume we have control. It is your organization that has control of the issue and the barking from fellow listers should let you know we do not want you to ignore it. Block the address (your statement tells us you can) until you

Re: [LegacyUG] Status of bugs

2008-09-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks Goeff That's very helpful to know. As I have previously written, I still think Legacy is the best genealogy software out there, even with the v7 bugs. Knowing an update is near is helpful. Jeff Geoff Rasmussen wrote: Dave wanted me to pass along that an update will be coming soon -

RE: [LegacyUG] fake messages from Geoff

2008-09-12 Thread Kirsten Bowman
Nor have I. None in my spam folder and none in my ISP's spam folder. Is it luck, or is it a matter of filters and settings? Kirsten -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ron Bernier Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:26 AM To:

[LegacyUG] Software Testing

2008-09-12 Thread Ward Walker
While sympathetic to the users impacted by the report output bugs, I am distressed by all the hostility directed towards Millennia and even towards fellow listers. Software development, including software testing, is not an exact science. (It comes close only in certain life-critical military

RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy freezing.

2008-09-12 Thread Michael A. Palmieri
Sherry, Good stuff... just what we all needed to know to enhance v.7. Michael A. Palmieri From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy freezing. Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:23:43 -0700 If you send these problems to us at [EMAIL

Re: [LegacyUG] Is this possible?

2008-09-12 Thread mjmethod
To my knowledge, No. Issue: Have you used Source Detail with the specific records? If so, they would also be lost. That may be OK, depending on what you are trying to do. If you want to actually delete the original source from the database, you could simply edit it and transform it into the

Re: [LegacyUG] fake messages from Geoff

2008-09-12 Thread Kris
We do not need a tutorial on spamming... this is a user group of your product... let's keep that the topic and perhaps we will get back to the core purpose of this list. Michael A. Palmieri Actually, it would appear that you do, since you don't seem to understand the dynamic involved.

Re: [LegacyUG] Software Testing

2008-09-12 Thread Hugh Busey
Ward, Well said - I concur completely. From over 40 years as a medical instrument developer I find your words accurate and on-target. Some of the criticism of Millenia has been unfair and misdirected. The accusers only need to be taken through the verification and validation testing cycle once

Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Individual Information screen Event display

2008-09-12 Thread Christina
Thank you all for you response, but to move the line over does move the date off, the next time you open up that file, it is back again. I was looking at a permanent way to set it off. Rich, I did edit the event, which doesn't show then when you are adding an event, but on the event screen it

Re: [LegacyUG] fake messages from Geoff

2008-09-12 Thread Kris
Some ISPs do a pretty good job of blocking stuff like that. After reading Ron's message, I found them. GMail did a pretty good job of snagging them. Unfortunately, I also found quite a few other messages from the LUG in there, too -- legitimate ones. :-) Kirsten Bowman wrote: Nor have I.

Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Individual Information screen Event display

2008-09-12 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
I agree. I only install if the date is meaningful in the person's life, but not my typing date. Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Christina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Christina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Individual Information screen Event display To:

Re: [LegacyUG] Software Testing

2008-09-12 Thread mmj7806
Hi Ward, Thanks for a thoughtful and articulate post. I am a new user of Legacy, having recently switched over from TMG v7 to Legacy 7, and have been hovering along the side-lines of this list for the past couple of weeks or so. I have never used Legacy 6. I have also been a database

RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy freezing.

2008-09-12 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
That is why when I, (and others) when discussing a problem, try to steer the person into seeing my example, to be specific how I am wrong or not, which assists people not familar with writing repair requests to be more clear. I learned by doing it wrong enough times. Rich in LA CA --- On Fri,

Re: [LegacyUG] Locations - For Marie

2008-09-12 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
WHat I am hearing, may be that some of you may not know that each report has a place to choose to use short locations within themselves. To cover all bases, you need to find the choice in every report, then, not change back. This is in addition to having the choice to use no small or small in

Re: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as Invisible Bug

2008-09-12 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
I think what you are looking for is probably handled best by creating a second file (started as duplicate), and delete from the second one, with a possible name 'invisible' or like, which will completely hide? the concerned people. You will need to remember to do changes for both, or they will

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy freezing and fake message

2008-09-12 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Have you submitted to Support the details of which version, what screen, what field, if repeatable or not, apparently random when happening. Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Syble Glasscock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Syble Glasscock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy

Re: [LegacyUG] fake messages from Geoff

2008-09-12 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Yes, but that is still Geoff's problem, though we collectively want to help him, if possible. Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Ann Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ann Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] fake messages from Geoff To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

Re: [LegacyUG] Software Testing

2008-09-12 Thread Heeren
Mike, I totally agree...and I'm sorry to say that is seems to be the norm here...with the same players usually. They can take a subject turn it around to a witch-burning so fast you have a huge download of useless messages in an instant. And when someone speaks up against the practice they

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy freezing.

2008-09-12 Thread Christina
Now I am having problems with Legacy V7 Build 7.0.0.55. It happens when I add an event and then I open the clipboard and I enter the information on the Source detail screen. I have the information completed and then when I try to go to the save step, it freezes and I have to close it with the

Re: [LegacyUG] Is this possible?

2008-09-12 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Yes it is possible. Fast, NO. Using an example, I need to change every Source 'US Census 1860, Illionis, Cook County, Chicago Ward 6' to 'ENG 1861 London, Stepney Limehouse Parish, voter lists'. Learning purposes only. 1. Go to Master Source List. Highlight the victim. 2. Choose 'Show list',

RE: [LegacyUG] fake messages from Geoff

2008-09-12 Thread Kirsten Bowman
Kris: I also get a fair amount of LUG mail in my spam folder both on my computer and in my ISP's spam folder. Sometimes I pull them out and read them; sometimes I don't. Do you know the cause? Perhaps this is a good time to remind listers (yet again) to send in plain text--or chance ending up

RE: [LegacyUG] Export of Individuals marked as Invisible Bug

2008-09-12 Thread Kirsten Bowman
An easy workaround that I've found is this: After the gedcom is created I open it in an old version of FTM. There's an option there to list all individuals by date of birth. It takes only a minute to check the list and verify that there are no inappropriate entries included. If the list is

Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Individual Information screen Event display

2008-09-12 Thread jcspin
Just curious - I can't imagine why anybody would NOT want to know the date of an event. Why is that your preference? - Original Message - From: Christina Date: Friday, September 12, 2008 5:08 pm Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Individual Information screen Event display To:

Re: [LegacyUG] fake messages from Geoff

2008-09-12 Thread marilyn E B
Kirsten, I did not have any either until today, but it was so easy to recognize. So I just deleted that message and went on reading things that interest me. I would have sent it to report spam, but at one time Legacy messages were going to spam and I did not want to deal with that again. The

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy freezing.

2008-09-12 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
OK. First question. Is the Event one of the four (BirthChriDiedBur) or an Event/Fact? New Event/Type or already used? New Source or already used one? SourceWriter or BasicStyle? I am guessing you are using SourceWriter. There have been problems reported in somewhat similar situations. Did you

RE: [LegacyUG] Help

2008-09-12 Thread John LOrd
Hi Leon, my files are an FTW and a FBK - does this change the conversion, Thanks for offering, Best John Lord From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leon Chapman Sent: Friday, 12 September 2008 1:37 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re:

[LegacyUG] ... Scrapbook printing ... Jim

2008-09-12 Thread Jim Hughes
Good Day ... ... I hope all is well Your comments/direction are appreciated. My quest ... to 'order' the printing of Scrapbook images. I created a .pdf file of my Scrapbook images. I am unable to determine the 'order' of how the images were printed. Family images are not in sequence,

Re: [LegacyUG] Software Testing

2008-09-12 Thread Janis L Gilmore
Mike, I was on the TMG list for several years, as well. Like you I have ultimately chosen Legacy over TMG ­ although I liked TMG quite well, and think it is a fine program. The TMG list does have a ³higher tone² than the Legacy list. Having said that, the Legacy list is full of clever people,

Re: [LegacyUG] Help

2008-09-12 Thread Janis L Gilmore
Before anyone heaps abuse on John, who is new to the list - I am sure his attachment of gedcoms was an accident, and he intended to send them to Susan. Janis On 9/12/08 8:49 PM, John LOrd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Susan, Thanks for offering to help, attached my files, Best John

Re: [LegacyUG] fake messages from Geoff

2008-09-12 Thread Kris
It's a problem with GMail's spam filters and they are *not* optional. There is a lot of discussion about it on the GMail lists. It isn't the LUG messages, specifically, that are snagged, and I'd only be speculating why some are marked and most are not (GMail techs won't discuss the criteria,

Re: [LegacyUG] ... Scrapbook printing ... Jim

2008-09-12 Thread JLB
This sounds familiar, like something I was trying to do a few years ago. As you probably notice there are no options for the type of thing you're asking about . You might try re-ordering the pictures in a couple of your Individual picture galleries and see if you can determine a pattern to

Re: [LegacyUG] ... Scrapbook printing ... Jim

2008-09-12 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Or, create an Event separately for each photgraph, then sort the various events. Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 9/12/08, JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] ... Scrapbook printing ... Jim To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Friday,

Re: [LegacyUG] Take a look at the latest repl1ca w4tches

2008-09-12 Thread Renee Zamora
Is someone playing with your email adderss? This just came from you but it sure looks like spam to me. On 9/12/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking for a repl1ca w4tch that no one can tell from the original? You're in luck, because Prest1ge Repl1cas has the ultimate

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-12 Thread Dave Miller
Cathy, I take no notice of 'slots' of any kind so, Your examples would look like this ; Denton, County Durham. (England certainly does have counties but we don't say 'County Kent' or 'Kent County', just 'Kent'. As always there are exceptions, such as your example Durham, which can be

RE: [LegacyUG] Help - My Apologies!!

2008-09-12 Thread Susan Perrett
I am sorry I sent this to the list in error - my apologies! I know no attachments are allowed. At 03:03 PM 13/09/2008, you wrote: Hi John, Although you put your message up on the Legacy Users Group Mailing List, you did not say whether you were using Legacy 7 or Family Tree Maker 6? So I

Re: [LegacyUG] Help

2008-09-12 Thread GeoSci
John Susan -- REMEMBER - NO FILES on the Legacy List - see the rules! Thanks!! On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Susan Perrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John, Although you put your message up on the Legacy Users Group Mailing List, you did not say whether you were using Legacy 7 or Family