Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

[Cathy Pinner]

John,

Do note that MH had already found it had to provide a desktop program - 
it has its Family Tree Builder program.

The genealogy community keeps wanting more and "both/and".

Cathy


johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au 
Sunday, 6 August 2017 11:22 AM

I realise that Legacy is currently a stand-alone program but I cannot 
see how it can last in its current form. First, technology and users 
expectations rapidly change and increase, while it my understanding is 
that Legacy is built on _outdated technology_ which is why it cannot 
handle Unicode. Secondly, I cannot see why MyHeritage, which does 
everything online would keep Legacy which cannot cater for all their 
worldwide/culturally diverse users. It simply does not gel.


I do not buy the reassurances given. I have been through restructures 
and merges in private and public sectors.Reassurances about changes to 
practices or staffing never bear out.


John

*From:* Denise Moss-Fritch 
*Sent:* Sunday, August 06, 2017 12:48 PM
*To:* 'Legacy User Group' 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

If you sync with MyHeritage and leave the setting to public, then you 
tree would be visible.


If you sync with MyHeritage, but set your tree to private (as is my 
tree) than no one will be able to see your data.


If you do not sync your tree to MyHeritage, no tree will be uploaded.

All the above are the same criteria as is found on Ancestry. I know, 
as I have a private tree there too.


Denise

*From:* LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Anne 
Wiltshire

*Sent:* Saturday, August 5, 2017 7:22 PM
*To:* LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage


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Denise Moss-Fritch 
Sunday, 6 August 2017 10:48 AM

If you sync with MyHeritage and leave the setting to public, then you 
tree would be visible.


If you sync with MyHeritage, but set your tree to private (as is my 
tree) than no one will be able to see your data.


If you do not sync your tree to MyHeritage, no tree will be uploaded.

All the above are the same criteria as is found on Ancestry. I know, 
as I have a private tree there too.


Denise

*From:* LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Anne 
Wiltshire

*Sent:* Saturday, August 5, 2017 7:22 PM
*To:* LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

Anne Wiltshire 
Sunday, 6 August 2017 10:21 AM
Hello all
Does My Heritage Privacy Policy for Legacy Family Tree (in the Help 
file) still apply or will My Heritage be able to take all my tree onto 
their website.

With thanks
Anne Wiltshire
Runaway Bay QLD Australia
*From:* CE WOOD
*Sent:* Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:55 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

Their TreeBuilder syncs with their website. I do not use it, so know 
only that.


Complete privacy on the website occurs *_ONLY_* if you set those 
options on your website tree. If you have more than one tree loaded on 
your website, you must set the privacy settings for each. Some people 
don't mind having people find and/or view some of their trees.


You can even set your tree so that it *_cannot be found _*if someone 
searches. You can do the same for any pictures or files you upload. If 
someone can't find your info by searching, they cannot view it.


You can limit those who can find your site to only your list of 
"members", and you can prevent "members" from changing anything on 
your site.


On far too many internet sites you find on the internet, people think 
a source is someone else's website! With very, very few exceptions, 
you can never trust anyone else's sources; you must go to their source 
yourself to check.


My research is mainly medieval. My sources are original documents 
(primary sources) or reliable secondary sources such as _Complete 
Peerage_, _Domesday Descendants_, _Domesday People_, Settipani's 
tomes, etc.., but, with new documents being discovered almost daily, 
especially in England, errors have been found in many of those. There 
are several scholarly websites devoted solely to the corrections in those.


MyHeritage is very far from perfect, but they have access to only your 
information that you allow them.


CE



*From:* LegacyUserGroup  on 
behalf of johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au 

Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

[johnbernacki1]

I realise that Legacy is currently a stand-alone program but I cannot see how 
it can last in its current form. First, technology and users expectations 
rapidly change and increase, while it my understanding is that Legacy is built 
on outdated technology which is why it cannot handle Unicode. Secondly, I 
cannot see why MyHeritage, which does everything online would keep Legacy which 
cannot cater for all their worldwide/culturally diverse users. It simply does 
not gel.

I do not buy the reassurances given. I have been through restructures and 
merges in private and public sectors.  Reassurances about changes to practices 
or staffing never bear out. 

John


From: Denise Moss-Fritch 
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 12:48 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

If you sync with MyHeritage and leave the setting to public, then you tree 
would be visible.

 

If you sync with MyHeritage, but set your tree to private (as is my tree) than 
no one will be able to see your data.

 

If you do not sync your tree to MyHeritage, no tree will be uploaded.

 

All the above are the same criteria as is found on Ancestry. I know, as I have 
a private tree there too.

 

Denise

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Anne Wiltshire
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 7:22 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

 

Hello all

 

Does My Heritage Privacy Policy for Legacy Family Tree (in the Help file) still 
apply or will My Heritage be able to take all my tree onto their website.

 

With thanks

 

Anne Wiltshire

Runaway Bay QLD Australia

 

From: CE WOOD 

Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:55 AM

To: Legacy User Group 

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

 

Their TreeBuilder syncs with their website. I do not use it, so know only that.

 

Complete privacy on the website occurs ONLY if you set those options on your 
website tree. If you have more than one tree loaded on your website, you must 
set the privacy settings for each. Some people don't mind having people find 
and/or view some of their trees.

 

You can even set your tree so that it cannot be found if someone searches. You 
can do the same for any pictures or files you upload. If someone can't find 
your info by searching, they cannot view it.

 

You can limit those who can find your site to only your list of "members", and 
you can prevent "members" from changing anything on your site.

 

On far too many internet sites you find on the internet, people think a source 
is someone else's website! With very, very few exceptions, you can never trust 
anyone else's sources; you must go to their source yourself to check.

 

My research is mainly medieval. My sources are original documents (primary 
sources) or reliable secondary sources such as Complete Peerage, Domesday 
Descendants, Domesday People, Settipani's tomes, etc.., but, with new documents 
being discovered almost daily, especially in England, errors have been found in 
many of those. There are several scholarly websites devoted solely to the 
corrections in those.

 

MyHeritage is very far from perfect, but they have access to only your 
information that you allow them.

 

 

CE 

 




From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au 
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 5:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage 

 

I tried MyHeritage with the basic subscription and don’t trust it for various 
reasons. It defaulted to automatic renewals every year and I don’t remember any 
other options. It was extremely difficult to find out how to enter an end date 
for the subscription because it was buried so deeply. From memory, I had to get 
out of their website and search on Google to find out how to do it.

I entered some relatives on their Family Tree Builder. Even though I thought I 
kept everything private, it ended up fully displayed on their website. 

You can never relax while using MyHeritage and have to constantly be on guard. 
Their technology/program seems to have “trip wires” everywhere to reset 
everything to defaults that suit them.

Like others, I found MyHeritage users never provide sources. To contact them or 
see their website, often requires paying the premium subscription.

On one occasion, I did manage to correspond with someone using MyHeritage, but 
his information was full of errors and false presumptions. He claimed to be an 
engineer!

I think MyHeritage will do everything they can to mine data from Legacy users. 
Also, Legacy users will gradually have to pay for more and more features and 
upgrades. As for cloud storage of family files- as soon as users get used to 
it, there is little doubt that costs will be attached.

Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

[Anne Wiltshire]

Thanks Cathy.

Anne

-Original Message- 
From: Cathy Pinner

Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 12:31 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

Anne,
It still applies.

Besides it's not so easy to sync a desktop database with an online tree
system. Note the delay in the release of FTM and RootsMagic sync ability
with the Ancestry tree.
Any syncing between a Legacy family file and a My Heritage tree requires
the development of the mechanism to do it.
It won't come before Legacy 10 and is expected to be entirely optional.
On top of that you then have the Privacy settings on a MyHeritage tree
apparently. I don't have one.

Cathy


Anne Wiltshire 
Sunday, 6 August 2017 10:21 AM
Hello all
Does My Heritage Privacy Policy for Legacy Family Tree (in the Help file) 
still apply or will My Heritage be able to take all my tree onto their 
website.

With thanks
Anne Wiltshire
Runaway Bay QLD Australia
*From:* CE WOOD
*Sent:* Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:55 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

Their TreeBuilder syncs with their website. I do not use it, so know only 
that.


Complete privacy on the website occurs *_ONLY_* if you set those options 
on your website tree. If you have more than one tree loaded on your 
website, you must set the privacy settings for each. Some people don't 
mind having people find and/or view some of their trees.


You can even set your tree so that it *_cannot be found _*if someone 
searches. You can do the same for any pictures or files you upload. If 
someone can't find your info by searching, they cannot view it.


You can limit those who can find your site to only your list of "members", 
and you can prevent "members" from changing anything on your site.


On far too many internet sites you find on the internet, people think a 
source is someone else's website! With very, very few exceptions, you can 
never trust anyone else's sources; you must go to their source yourself to 
check.


My research is mainly medieval. My sources are original documents (primary 
sources) or reliable secondary sources such as _Complete Peerage_, 
_Domesday Descendants_, _Domesday People_, Settipani's tomes, etc.., but, 
with new documents being discovered almost daily, especially in England, 
errors have been found in many of those. There are several scholarly 
websites devoted solely to the corrections in those.


MyHeritage is very far from perfect, but they have access to only your 
information that you allow them.


CE



*From:* LegacyUserGroup  on 
behalf of johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au 

*Sent:* Saturday, August 5, 2017 5:15 PM
*To:* LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

I tried MyHeritage with the basic subscription and don’t trust it for 
various reasons. It defaulted to automatic renewals every year and I don’t 
remember any other options. It was extremely difficult to find out how to 
enter an end date for the subscription because it was buried so deeply. 
From memory, I had to get out of their website and search on Google to 
find out how to do it.


I entered some relatives on their Family Tree Builder. Even though I 
thought I kept everything private, it ended up fully displayed on their 
website.


You can never relax while using MyHeritage and have to constantly be on 
guard. Their technology/program seems to have “trip wires” everywhere to 
reset everything to defaults that suit them.


Like others, I found MyHeritage users never provide sources. To contact 
them or see their website, often requires paying the premium subscription.


On one occasion, I did manage to correspond with someone using MyHeritage, 
but his information was full of errors and false presumptions. He claimed 
to be an engineer!


I think MyHeritage will do everything they can to mine data from Legacy 
users. Also, Legacy users will gradually have to pay for more and more 
features and upgrades. As for cloud storage of family files- as soon as 
users get used to it, there is little doubt that costs will be attached.


MyHeritage seems geared to obtaining your data for free, while making you 
pay as much possible to search for any.


John


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Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

[Anne Wiltshire]

thank you Denise

Anne

From: Denise Moss-Fritch 
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 12:48 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

If you sync with MyHeritage and leave the setting to public, then you tree 
would be visible.

 

If you sync with MyHeritage, but set your tree to private (as is my tree) than 
no one will be able to see your data.

 

If you do not sync your tree to MyHeritage, no tree will be uploaded.

 

All the above are the same criteria as is found on Ancestry. I know, as I have 
a private tree there too.

 

Denise

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Anne Wiltshire
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 7:22 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

 

Hello all

 

Does My Heritage Privacy Policy for Legacy Family Tree (in the Help file) still 
apply or will My Heritage be able to take all my tree onto their website.

 

With thanks

 

Anne Wiltshire

Runaway Bay QLD Australia

 

From: CE WOOD 

Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:55 AM

To: Legacy User Group 

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

 

Their TreeBuilder syncs with their website. I do not use it, so know only that.

 

Complete privacy on the website occurs ONLY if you set those options on your 
website tree. If you have more than one tree loaded on your website, you must 
set the privacy settings for each. Some people don't mind having people find 
and/or view some of their trees.

 

You can even set your tree so that it cannot be found if someone searches. You 
can do the same for any pictures or files you upload. If someone can't find 
your info by searching, they cannot view it.

 

You can limit those who can find your site to only your list of "members", and 
you can prevent "members" from changing anything on your site.

 

On far too many internet sites you find on the internet, people think a source 
is someone else's website! With very, very few exceptions, you can never trust 
anyone else's sources; you must go to their source yourself to check.

 

My research is mainly medieval. My sources are original documents (primary 
sources) or reliable secondary sources such as Complete Peerage, Domesday 
Descendants, Domesday People, Settipani's tomes, etc.., but, with new documents 
being discovered almost daily, especially in England, errors have been found in 
many of those. There are several scholarly websites devoted solely to the 
corrections in those.

 

MyHeritage is very far from perfect, but they have access to only your 
information that you allow them.

 

 

CE 

 




From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au 
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 5:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage 

 

I tried MyHeritage with the basic subscription and don’t trust it for various 
reasons. It defaulted to automatic renewals every year and I don’t remember any 
other options. It was extremely difficult to find out how to enter an end date 
for the subscription because it was buried so deeply. From memory, I had to get 
out of their website and search on Google to find out how to do it.

I entered some relatives on their Family Tree Builder. Even though I thought I 
kept everything private, it ended up fully displayed on their website. 

You can never relax while using MyHeritage and have to constantly be on guard. 
Their technology/program seems to have “trip wires” everywhere to reset 
everything to defaults that suit them.

Like others, I found MyHeritage users never provide sources. To contact them or 
see their website, often requires paying the premium subscription.

On one occasion, I did manage to correspond with someone using MyHeritage, but 
his information was full of errors and false presumptions. He claimed to be an 
engineer!

I think MyHeritage will do everything they can to mine data from Legacy users. 
Also, Legacy users will gradually have to pay for more and more features and 
upgrades. As for cloud storage of family files- as soon as users get used to 
it, there is little doubt that costs will be attached.

MyHeritage seems geared to obtaining your data for free, while making you pay 
as much possible to search for any.

 

John




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Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

[Denise Moss-Fritch]

If you sync with MyHeritage and leave the setting to public, then you tree
would be visible.

 

If you sync with MyHeritage, but set your tree to private (as is my tree)
than no one will be able to see your data.

 

If you do not sync your tree to MyHeritage, no tree will be uploaded.

 

All the above are the same criteria as is found on Ancestry. I know, as I
have a private tree there too.

 

Denise

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Anne Wiltshire
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 7:22 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

 

Hello all

 

Does My Heritage Privacy Policy for Legacy Family Tree (in the Help file)
still apply or will My Heritage be able to take all my tree onto their
website.

 

With thanks

 

Anne Wiltshire

Runaway Bay QLD Australia

 

From: CE WOOD 

Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:55 AM

To: Legacy User Group 

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

 

Their TreeBuilder syncs with their website. I do not use it, so know only
that.

 

Complete privacy on the website occurs ONLY if you set those options on your
website tree. If you have more than one tree loaded on your website, you
must set the privacy settings for each. Some people don't mind having people
find and/or view some of their trees.

 

You can even set your tree so that it cannot be found if someone searches.
You can do the same for any pictures or files you upload. If someone can't
find your info by searching, they cannot view it.

 

You can limit those who can find your site to only your list of "members",
and you can prevent "members" from changing anything on your site.

 

On far too many internet sites you find on the internet, people think a
source is someone else's website! With very, very few exceptions, you can
never trust anyone else's sources; you must go to their source yourself to
check.

 

My research is mainly medieval. My sources are original documents (primary
sources) or reliable secondary sources such as Complete Peerage, Domesday
Descendants, Domesday People, Settipani's tomes, etc.., but, with new
documents being discovered almost daily, especially in England, errors have
been found in many of those. There are several scholarly websites devoted
solely to the corrections in those.

 

MyHeritage is very far from perfect, but they have access to only your
information that you allow them.

 

 

CE 

 

  _  

From: LegacyUserGroup  > on behalf of
johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au 
 >
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 5:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com 

Subject: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage 

 

I tried MyHeritage with the basic subscription and don't trust it for
various reasons. It defaulted to automatic renewals every year and I don't
remember any other options. It was extremely difficult to find out how to
enter an end date for the subscription because it was buried so deeply. From
memory, I had to get out of their website and search on Google to find out
how to do it.

I entered some relatives on their Family Tree Builder. Even though I thought
I kept everything private, it ended up fully displayed on their website. 

You can never relax while using MyHeritage and have to constantly be on
guard. Their technology/program seems to have "trip wires" everywhere to
reset everything to defaults that suit them.

Like others, I found MyHeritage users never provide sources. To contact them
or see their website, often requires paying the premium subscription.

On one occasion, I did manage to correspond with someone using MyHeritage,
but his information was full of errors and false presumptions. He claimed to
be an engineer!

I think MyHeritage will do everything they can to mine data from Legacy
users. Also, Legacy users will gradually have to pay for more and more
features and upgrades. As for cloud storage of family files- as soon as
users get used to it, there is little doubt that costs will be attached.

MyHeritage seems geared to obtaining your data for free, while making you
pay as much possible to search for any.

 

John

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Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

[Linda Greethurst]

As I understand it, Legacy will continue to be its own program just as it
always has been.

To share your data with MyHeritage, FamilySearch, Ancestry or any other
commercial online tree - including DNA trees- has ALWAYS been your choice.
If you choose to put your data online, you are responsible to know what you
are getting into first. You know what kind of information gets put on
public trees - some is good, some is terrible.   You are in total control
of the decision to add your information.  Legacy doesn't do it
automatically for you.  They are just trying to facilitate a method of
transfer for you - IF that is what you want.  What happens after that
transfer of data to a new location is not a Legacy problem.

Legacy is a powerful and complicated program and I'm guessing that many of
us utilize only about half of the features consistantly.  I'm sure Geoff
and the rest of the team have done a lot of study ahead of time before
committing to the merger.  Gee, I bet they even know something about future
plans that we don't even have a clue.  Give them a chance.  No program is
going to be so perfect that it will do everything that every one of us
want.  But boy, Legacy sure fits the bill perfectly for me and I choose not
to put my trees online.

So, like Donna says "wait and see"before you start throwing out the barbs.
It's your choice.
Linda in Iowa



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On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 9:31 PM, Douglas Tighe  wrote:

> Thanks for that reassuring information Cathy
> Cheers Doug
>
> > On 6 Aug 2017, at 12:18, Cathy Pinner  wrote:
> >
> > There is a lot of bad information and speculation floating about.
> >
> > Legacy was last week and is this week a desktop programme. There is no
> automatic sync of your data anywhere.
> > For those using the Legacy Cloud backup, only you have access to it,
> only you have the password.
> >
> > The merger means that Legacy 10 will have the ability to sync your tree
> with a My Heritage tree. It has been said that this will be entirely
> optional.
> >
> > So your information in Legacy is only going to get somewhere else,
> including My Heritage, if you or someone you share it with puts it there.
> >
> > Cathy
> >
> >> Douglas Tighe 
> >> Sunday, 6 August 2017 10:11 AM
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Can anyone with the knowledge advise us all how to protect our Legacy
> files from now on please.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Doug Tighe in marvellous Queensland
> >>
> >>> On 6 Aug 2017, at 11:53, > > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think that default positions should always be for maximum privacy-
> not the other way around.
> >>>
> >>> Hi CE, I agree that other people’s websites are not sources but
> thought they may cite sources which could be checked by me.
> >>>
> >>> I’m glad scholars are checking primary sources. I saw on a documentary
> how British kings or other royals or nobles sometimes changed official
> family trees in order to justify or make claims to the throne for
> themselves or their descendants.
> >>>
> >>> I have no ancestors from what is now the UK and have found companies
> like Ancestry quite useless for me. My ancestors are mostly peasants from
> rural hamlets or villages in different obscure parts of continental Europe,
> although a German branch from the time of the HRE included some nobles etc.
> >>>
> >>> John
> >>>
> >>> *From:* Maria Fraser 
> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 06, 2017 11:26 AM
> >>> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage
> >>> Hi John
> >>>
> >>> I think you have hit the nail on the head with everything you have
> described.
> >>>
> >>> I emailed my concerns to the group on 8 July regarding My Heritage
> taking control of information that I had entered into Legacy. I am very
> disappointed that My Heritage has now taken over Legacy.  I have tried
> several different family tree programmes over the years and had hoped that
> Legacy was finally the programme that I could continue to use without
> hesitation. I also thought that no one else could copy my information
> without my permission - silly me.
> >>>
> >>> Maria from NZ
> >>>
> >>>
>  On 6/08/2017 12:15 PM, johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:
> 
>  I tried MyHeritage with the basic subscription and don’t trust it for
> various reasons. It defaulted to automatic renewals every year and I don’t
> remember any other options. It was extremely difficult to find out how to
> enter an end date for the subscription because it was buried so deeply.
> From 

Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

[Douglas Tighe]

Thanks for that reassuring information Cathy
Cheers Doug

> On 6 Aug 2017, at 12:18, Cathy Pinner  wrote:
> 
> There is a lot of bad information and speculation floating about.
> 
> Legacy was last week and is this week a desktop programme. There is no 
> automatic sync of your data anywhere.
> For those using the Legacy Cloud backup, only you have access to it, only you 
> have the password.
> 
> The merger means that Legacy 10 will have the ability to sync your tree with 
> a My Heritage tree. It has been said that this will be entirely optional.
> 
> So your information in Legacy is only going to get somewhere else, including 
> My Heritage, if you or someone you share it with puts it there.
> 
> Cathy
> 
>> Douglas Tighe 
>> Sunday, 6 August 2017 10:11 AM
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Can anyone with the knowledge advise us all how to protect our Legacy files 
>> from now on please.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Doug Tighe in marvellous Queensland
>> 
>>> On 6 Aug 2017, at 11:53, >> > >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think that default positions should always be for maximum privacy- not 
>>> the other way around.
>>> 
>>> Hi CE, I agree that other people’s websites are not sources but thought 
>>> they may cite sources which could be checked by me.
>>> 
>>> I’m glad scholars are checking primary sources. I saw on a documentary how 
>>> British kings or other royals or nobles sometimes changed official family 
>>> trees in order to justify or make claims to the throne for themselves or 
>>> their descendants.
>>> 
>>> I have no ancestors from what is now the UK and have found companies like 
>>> Ancestry quite useless for me. My ancestors are mostly peasants from rural 
>>> hamlets or villages in different obscure parts of continental Europe, 
>>> although a German branch from the time of the HRE included some nobles etc.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> *From:* Maria Fraser 
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 06, 2017 11:26 AM
>>> *To:* Legacy User Group 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage
>>> Hi John
>>> 
>>> I think you have hit the nail on the head with everything you have 
>>> described.
>>> 
>>> I emailed my concerns to the group on 8 July regarding My Heritage taking 
>>> control of information that I had entered into Legacy. I am very 
>>> disappointed that My Heritage has now taken over Legacy.  I have tried  
>>> several different family tree programmes over the years and had hoped that 
>>> Legacy was finally the programme that I could continue to use without 
>>> hesitation. I also thought that no one else could copy my information 
>>> without my permission - silly me.
>>> 
>>> Maria from NZ
>>> 
>>> 
 On 6/08/2017 12:15 PM, johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:
 
 I tried MyHeritage with the basic subscription and don’t trust it for 
 various reasons. It defaulted to automatic renewals every year and I don’t 
 remember any other options. It was extremely difficult to find out how to 
 enter an end date for the subscription because it was buried so deeply. 
 From memory, I had to get out of their website and search on Google to 
 find out how to do it.
 
 I entered some relatives on their Family Tree Builder. Even though I 
 thought I kept everything private, it ended up fully displayed on their 
 website.
 
 You can never relax while using MyHeritage and have to constantly be on 
 guard. Their technology/program seems to have “trip wires” everywhere to 
 reset everything to defaults that suit them.
 
 Like others, I found MyHeritage users never provide sources. To contact 
 them or see their website, often requires paying the premium subscription.
 
 On one occasion, I did manage to correspond with someone using MyHeritage, 
 but his information was full of errors and false presumptions. He claimed 
 to be an engineer!
 
 I think MyHeritage will do everything they can to mine data from Legacy 
 users. Also, Legacy users will gradually have to pay for more and more 
 features and upgrades. As for cloud storage of family files- as soon as 
 users get used to it, there is little doubt that costs will be attached.
 
 MyHeritage seems geared to obtaining your data for free, while making you 
 pay as much possible to search for any.
 
 John
 
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

[Susie Zada]

Your Legacy files are protected by not uploading them to the web!

Millenium don’t have your data, neither do Ancestry, Findmypast, Family Search, 
or MyHeritage UNLESS you have given it to them!

If you decide to upload your data, learn how to protect it FIRST not AFTER 
you’ve uploaded it!

Regards … Susie Z

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Douglas Tighe
Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017 12:12 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

Hi all,

Can anyone with the knowledge advise us all how to protect our Legacy files 
from now on please. 

Cheers
Doug Tighe in marvellous Queensland





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Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

[Cathy Pinner]

Anne,
It still applies.

Besides it's not so easy to sync a desktop database with an online tree 
system. Note the delay in the release of FTM and RootsMagic sync ability 
with the Ancestry tree.
Any syncing between a Legacy family file and a My Heritage tree requires 
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It won't come before Legacy 10 and is expected to be entirely optional. 
On top of that you then have the Privacy settings on a MyHeritage tree 
apparently. I don't have one.


Cathy


Anne Wiltshire 
Sunday, 6 August 2017 10:21 AM
Hello all
Does My Heritage Privacy Policy for Legacy Family Tree (in the Help 
file) still apply or will My Heritage be able to take all my tree onto 
their website.

With thanks
Anne Wiltshire
Runaway Bay QLD Australia
*From:* CE WOOD
*Sent:* Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:55 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

Their TreeBuilder syncs with their website. I do not use it, so know 
only that.


Complete privacy on the website occurs *_ONLY_* if you set those 
options on your website tree. If you have more than one tree loaded on 
your website, you must set the privacy settings for each. Some people 
don't mind having people find and/or view some of their trees.


You can even set your tree so that it *_cannot be found _*if someone 
searches. You can do the same for any pictures or files you upload. If 
someone can't find your info by searching, they cannot view it.


You can limit those who can find your site to only your list of 
"members", and you can prevent "members" from changing anything on 
your site.


On far too many internet sites you find on the internet, people think 
a source is someone else's website! With very, very few exceptions, 
you can never trust anyone else's sources; you must go to their source 
yourself to check.


My research is mainly medieval. My sources are original documents 
(primary sources) or reliable secondary sources such as _Complete 
Peerage_, _Domesday Descendants_, _Domesday People_, Settipani's 
tomes, etc.., but, with new documents being discovered almost daily, 
especially in England, errors have been found in many of those. There 
are several scholarly websites devoted solely to the corrections in those.


MyHeritage is very far from perfect, but they have access to only your 
information that you allow them.


CE



*From:* LegacyUserGroup  on 
behalf of johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au 

*Sent:* Saturday, August 5, 2017 5:15 PM
*To:* LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

I tried MyHeritage with the basic subscription and don’t trust it for 
various reasons. It defaulted to automatic renewals every year and I 
don’t remember any other options. It was extremely difficult to find 
out how to enter an end date for the subscription because it was 
buried so deeply. From memory, I had to get out of their website and 
search on Google to find out how to do it.


I entered some relatives on their Family Tree Builder. Even though I 
thought I kept everything private, it ended up fully displayed on 
their website.


You can never relax while using MyHeritage and have to constantly be 
on guard. Their technology/program seems to have “trip wires” 
everywhere to reset everything to defaults that suit them.


Like others, I found MyHeritage users never provide sources. To 
contact them or see their website, often requires paying the premium 
subscription.


On one occasion, I did manage to correspond with someone using 
MyHeritage, but his information was full of errors and false 
presumptions. He claimed to be an engineer!


I think MyHeritage will do everything they can to mine data from 
Legacy users. Also, Legacy users will gradually have to pay for more 
and more features and upgrades. As for cloud storage of family files- 
as soon as users get used to it, there is little doubt that costs will 
be attached.


MyHeritage seems geared to obtaining your data for free, while making 
you pay as much possible to search for any.


John


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[LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

[Anne Wiltshire]

Hello all

Does My Heritage Privacy Policy for Legacy Family Tree (in the Help file) still 
apply or will My Heritage be able to take all my tree onto their website.

With thanks

Anne Wiltshire
Runaway Bay QLD Australia

From: CE WOOD 
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:55 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

Their TreeBuilder syncs with their website. I do not use it, so know only that.



Complete privacy on the website occurs ONLY if you set those options on your 
website tree. If you have more than one tree loaded on your website, you must 
set the privacy settings for each. Some people don't mind having people find 
and/or view some of their trees.



You can even set your tree so that it cannot be found if someone searches. You 
can do the same for any pictures or files you upload. If someone can't find 
your info by searching, they cannot view it.



You can limit those who can find your site to only your list of "members", and 
you can prevent "members" from changing anything on your site.




On far too many internet sites you find on the internet, people think a source 
is someone else's website! With very, very few exceptions, you can never trust 
anyone else's sources; you must go to their source yourself to check.



My research is mainly medieval. My sources are original documents (primary 
sources) or reliable secondary sources such as Complete Peerage, Domesday 
Descendants, Domesday People, Settipani's tomes, etc.., but, with new documents 
being discovered almost daily, especially in England, errors have been found in 
many of those. There are several scholarly websites devoted solely to the 
corrections in those.



MyHeritage is very far from perfect, but they have access to only your 
information that you allow them.






CE 






From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au 
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 5:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage 

I tried MyHeritage with the basic subscription and don’t trust it for various 
reasons. It defaulted to automatic renewals every year and I don’t remember any 
other options. It was extremely difficult to find out how to enter an end date 
for the subscription because it was buried so deeply. From memory, I had to get 
out of their website and search on Google to find out how to do it.

I entered some relatives on their Family Tree Builder. Even though I thought I 
kept everything private, it ended up fully displayed on their website. 

You can never relax while using MyHeritage and have to constantly be on guard. 
Their technology/program seems to have “trip wires” everywhere to reset 
everything to defaults that suit them.

Like others, I found MyHeritage users never provide sources. To contact them or 
see their website, often requires paying the premium subscription.

On one occasion, I did manage to correspond with someone using MyHeritage, but 
his information was full of errors and false presumptions. He claimed to be an 
engineer!

I think MyHeritage will do everything they can to mine data from Legacy users. 
Also, Legacy users will gradually have to pay for more and more features and 
upgrades. As for cloud storage of family files- as soon as users get used to 
it, there is little doubt that costs will be attached.

MyHeritage seems geared to obtaining your data for free, while making you pay 
as much possible to search for any.



John




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Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

[Cathy Pinner]

There is a lot of bad information and speculation floating about.

Legacy was last week and is this week a desktop programme. There is no 
automatic sync of your data anywhere.
For those using the Legacy Cloud backup, only you have access to it, 
only you have the password.


The merger means that Legacy 10 will have the ability to sync your tree 
with a My Heritage tree. It has been said that this will be entirely 
optional.


So your information in Legacy is only going to get somewhere else, 
including My Heritage, if you or someone you share it with puts it there.


Cathy


Douglas Tighe 
Sunday, 6 August 2017 10:11 AM
Hi all,

Can anyone with the knowledge advise us all how to protect our Legacy 
files from now on please.


Cheers
Doug Tighe in marvellous Queensland

On 6 Aug 2017, at 11:53, > > wrote:


I think that default positions should always be for maximum privacy- 
not the other way around.


Hi CE, I agree that other people’s websites are not sources but 
thought they may cite sources which could be checked by me.


I’m glad scholars are checking primary sources. I saw on a 
documentary how British kings or other royals or nobles sometimes 
changed official family trees in order to justify or make claims to 
the throne for themselves or their descendants.


I have no ancestors from what is now the UK and have found companies 
like Ancestry quite useless for me. My ancestors are mostly peasants 
from rural hamlets or villages in different obscure parts of 
continental Europe, although a German branch from the time of the HRE 
included some nobles etc.


John

*From:* Maria Fraser 
*Sent:* Sunday, August 06, 2017 11:26 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage
Hi John

I think you have hit the nail on the head with everything you have 
described.


I emailed my concerns to the group on 8 July regarding My Heritage 
taking control of information that I had entered into Legacy. I am 
very disappointed that My Heritage has now taken over Legacy.  I have 
tried  several different family tree programmes over the years and 
had hoped that Legacy was finally the programme that I could continue 
to use without hesitation. I also thought that no one else could copy 
my information without my permission - silly me.


Maria from NZ


On 6/08/2017 12:15 PM, johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:


I tried MyHeritage with the basic subscription and don’t trust it 
for various reasons. It defaulted to automatic renewals every year 
and I don’t remember any other options. It was extremely difficult 
to find out how to enter an end date for the subscription because it 
was buried so deeply. From memory, I had to get out of their website 
and search on Google to find out how to do it.


I entered some relatives on their Family Tree Builder. Even though I 
thought I kept everything private, it ended up fully displayed on 
their website.


You can never relax while using MyHeritage and have to constantly be 
on guard. Their technology/program seems to have “trip wires” 
everywhere to reset everything to defaults that suit them.


Like others, I found MyHeritage users never provide sources. To 
contact them or see their website, often requires paying the premium 
subscription.


On one occasion, I did manage to correspond with someone using 
MyHeritage, but his information was full of errors and false 
presumptions. He claimed to be an engineer!


I think MyHeritage will do everything they can to mine data from 
Legacy users. Also, Legacy users will gradually have to pay for more 
and more features and upgrades. As for cloud storage of family 
files- as soon as users get used to it, there is little doubt that 
costs will be attached.


MyHeritage seems geared to obtaining your data for free, while 
making you pay as much possible to search for any.


John






 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

[Douglas Tighe]

Hi all,

Can anyone with the knowledge advise us all how to protect our Legacy files 
from now on please. 

Cheers
Doug Tighe in marvellous Queensland

> On 6 Aug 2017, at 11:53,  
>  wrote:
> 
> I think that default positions should always be for maximum privacy- not the 
> other way around.
> 
> Hi CE, I agree that other people’s websites are not sources but thought they 
> may cite sources which could be checked by me.
> 
> I’m glad scholars are checking primary sources. I saw on a documentary how 
> British kings or other royals or nobles sometimes changed official family 
> trees in order to justify or make claims to the throne for themselves or 
> their descendants.
> 
> I have no ancestors from what is now the UK and have found companies like 
> Ancestry quite useless for me. My ancestors are mostly peasants from rural 
> hamlets or villages in different obscure parts of continental Europe, 
> although a German branch from the time of the HRE included some nobles etc.
> 
>  
> John
> 
> From: Maria Fraser
> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 11:26 AM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage
>  
> Hi John
> 
> I think you have hit the nail on the head with everything you have described. 
> 
> I emailed my concerns to the group on 8 July regarding My Heritage taking 
> control of information that I had entered into Legacy. I am very disappointed 
> that My Heritage has now taken over Legacy.  I have tried  several different 
> family tree programmes over the years and had hoped that Legacy was finally 
> the programme that I could continue to use without hesitation. I also thought 
> that no one else could copy my information without my permission - silly me.
> 
> Maria from NZ
> 
> 
>> On 6/08/2017 12:15 PM, johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:
>> I tried MyHeritage with the basic subscription and don’t trust it for 
>> various reasons. It defaulted to automatic renewals every year and I don’t 
>> remember any other options. It was extremely difficult to find out how to 
>> enter an end date for the subscription because it was buried so deeply. From 
>> memory, I had to get out of their website and search on Google to find out 
>> how to do it.
>> 
>> I entered some relatives on their Family Tree Builder. Even though I thought 
>> I kept everything private, it ended up fully displayed on their website.
>> 
>> You can never relax while using MyHeritage and have to constantly be on 
>> guard. Their technology/program seems to have “trip wires” everywhere to 
>> reset everything to defaults that suit them.
>> 
>> Like others, I found MyHeritage users never provide sources. To contact them 
>> or see their website, often requires paying the premium subscription.
>> 
>> On one occasion, I did manage to correspond with someone using MyHeritage, 
>> but his information was full of errors and false presumptions. He claimed to 
>> be an engineer!
>> 
>> I think MyHeritage will do everything they can to mine data from Legacy 
>> users. Also, Legacy users will gradually have to pay for more and more 
>> features and upgrades. As for cloud storage of family files- as soon as 
>> users get used to it, there is little doubt that costs will be attached.
>> 
>> MyHeritage seems geared to obtaining your data for free, while making you 
>> pay as much possible to search for any.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

[johnbernacki1]

I think that default positions should always be for maximum privacy- not the 
other way around.

Hi CE, I agree that other people’s websites are not sources but thought they 
may cite sources which could be checked by me.

I’m glad scholars are checking primary sources. I saw on a documentary how 
British kings or other royals or nobles sometimes changed official family trees 
in order to justify or make claims to the throne for themselves or their 
descendants.

I have no ancestors from what is now the UK and have found companies like 
Ancestry quite useless for me. My ancestors are mostly peasants from rural 
hamlets or villages in different obscure parts of continental Europe, although 
a German branch from the time of the HRE included some nobles etc. 



John

From: Maria Fraser 
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 11:26 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

Hi John

I think you have hit the nail on the head with everything you have described. 

I emailed my concerns to the group on 8 July regarding My Heritage taking 
control of information that I had entered into Legacy. I am very disappointed 
that My Heritage has now taken over Legacy.  I have tried  several different 
family tree programmes over the years and had hoped that Legacy was finally the 
programme that I could continue to use without hesitation. I also thought that 
no one else could copy my information without my permission - silly me.

Maria from NZ



On 6/08/2017 12:15 PM, johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:

  I tried MyHeritage with the basic subscription and don’t trust it for various 
reasons. It defaulted to automatic renewals every year and I don’t remember any 
other options. It was extremely difficult to find out how to enter an end date 
for the subscription because it was buried so deeply. From memory, I had to get 
out of their website and search on Google to find out how to do it.

  I entered some relatives on their Family Tree Builder. Even though I thought 
I kept everything private, it ended up fully displayed on their website. 

  You can never relax while using MyHeritage and have to constantly be on 
guard. Their technology/program seems to have “trip wires” everywhere to reset 
everything to defaults that suit them.

  Like others, I found MyHeritage users never provide sources. To contact them 
or see their website, often requires paying the premium subscription.

  On one occasion, I did manage to correspond with someone using MyHeritage, 
but his information was full of errors and false presumptions. He claimed to be 
an engineer!

  I think MyHeritage will do everything they can to mine data from Legacy 
users. Also, Legacy users will gradually have to pay for more and more features 
and upgrades. As for cloud storage of family files- as soon as users get used 
to it, there is little doubt that costs will be attached.

  MyHeritage seems geared to obtaining your data for free, while making you pay 
as much possible to search for any.



  John


   




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Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

[Maria Fraser]

Hi John

I think you have hit the nail on the head with everything you have 
described.


I emailed my concerns to the group on 8 July regarding My Heritage 
taking control of information that I had entered into Legacy. I am very 
disappointed that My Heritage has now taken over Legacy.  I have tried  
several different family tree programmes over the years and had hoped 
that Legacy was finally the programme that I could continue to use 
without hesitation. I also thought that no one else could copy my 
information without my permission - silly me.


Maria from NZ


On 6/08/2017 12:15 PM, johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:


I tried MyHeritage with the basic subscription and don’t trust it for 
various reasons. It defaulted to automatic renewals every year and I 
don’t remember any other options. It was extremely difficult to find 
out how to enter an end date for the subscription because it was 
buried so deeply. From memory, I had to get out of their website and 
search on Google to find out how to do it.


I entered some relatives on their Family Tree Builder. Even though I 
thought I kept everything private, it ended up fully displayed on 
their website.


You can never relax while using MyHeritage and have to constantly be 
on guard. Their technology/program seems to have “trip wires” 
everywhere to reset everything to defaults that suit them.


Like others, I found MyHeritage users never provide sources. To 
contact them or see their website, often requires paying the premium 
subscription.


On one occasion, I did manage to correspond with someone using 
MyHeritage, but his information was full of errors and false 
presumptions. He claimed to be an engineer!


I think MyHeritage will do everything they can to mine data from 
Legacy users. Also, Legacy users will gradually have to pay for more 
and more features and upgrades. As for cloud storage of family files- 
as soon as users get used to it, there is little doubt that costs will 
be attached.


MyHeritage seems geared to obtaining your data for free, while making 
you pay as much possible to search for any.


John







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Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

[CE WOOD]

Their TreeBuilder syncs with their website. I do not use it, so know only that.


Complete privacy on the website occurs ONLY if you set those options on your 
website tree. If you have more than one tree loaded on your website, you must 
set the privacy settings for each. Some people don't mind having people find 
and/or view some of their trees.


You can even set your tree so that it cannot be found if someone searches. You 
can do the same for any pictures or files you upload. If someone can't find 
your info by searching, they cannot view it.


You can limit those who can find your site to only your list of "members", and 
you can prevent "members" from changing anything on your site.


On far too many internet sites you find on the internet, people think a source 
is someone else's website! With very, very few exceptions, you can never trust 
anyone else's sources; you must go to their source yourself to check.


My research is mainly medieval. My sources are original documents (primary 
sources) or reliable secondary sources such as Complete Peerage, Domesday 
Descendants, Domesday People, Settipani's tomes, etc.., but, with new documents 
being discovered almost daily, especially in England, errors have been found in 
many of those. There are several scholarly websites devoted solely to the 
corrections in those.


MyHeritage is very far from perfect, but they have access to only your 
information that you allow them.



CE



From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au 
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 5:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@Legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

I tried MyHeritage with the basic subscription and don’t trust it for various 
reasons. It defaulted to automatic renewals every year and I don’t remember any 
other options. It was extremely difficult to find out how to enter an end date 
for the subscription because it was buried so deeply. From memory, I had to get 
out of their website and search on Google to find out how to do it.
I entered some relatives on their Family Tree Builder. Even though I thought I 
kept everything private, it ended up fully displayed on their website.
You can never relax while using MyHeritage and have to constantly be on guard. 
Their technology/program seems to have “trip wires” everywhere to reset 
everything to defaults that suit them.
Like others, I found MyHeritage users never provide sources. To contact them or 
see their website, often requires paying the premium subscription.
On one occasion, I did manage to correspond with someone using MyHeritage, but 
his information was full of errors and false presumptions. He claimed to be an 
engineer!
I think MyHeritage will do everything they can to mine data from Legacy users. 
Also, Legacy users will gradually have to pay for more and more features and 
upgrades. As for cloud storage of family files- as soon as users get used to 
it, there is little doubt that costs will be attached.
MyHeritage seems geared to obtaining your data for free, while making you pay 
as much possible to search for any.

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[LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

[johnbernacki1]

I tried MyHeritage with the basic subscription and don’t trust it for various 
reasons. It defaulted to automatic renewals every year and I don’t remember any 
other options. It was extremely difficult to find out how to enter an end date 
for the subscription because it was buried so deeply. From memory, I had to get 
out of their website and search on Google to find out how to do it.

I entered some relatives on their Family Tree Builder. Even though I thought I 
kept everything private, it ended up fully displayed on their website. 

You can never relax while using MyHeritage and have to constantly be on guard. 
Their technology/program seems to have “trip wires” everywhere to reset 
everything to defaults that suit them.

Like others, I found MyHeritage users never provide sources. To contact them or 
see their website, often requires paying the premium subscription.

On one occasion, I did manage to correspond with someone using MyHeritage, but 
his information was full of errors and false presumptions. He claimed to be an 
engineer!

I think MyHeritage will do everything they can to mine data from Legacy users. 
Also, Legacy users will gradually have to pay for more and more features and 
upgrades. As for cloud storage of family files- as soon as users get used to 
it, there is little doubt that costs will be attached.

MyHeritage seems geared to obtaining your data for free, while making you pay 
as much possible to search for any.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Info

[Evelyn ..]

In version 8 it works using the generic. Version 9 conversion is next week
for me.

I'd be interested in knowing what works in ver 9.

-Evelyn

On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Pete Beatty  wrote:

> Version 9
>
> Pete B (my phone)
>
> On Aug 5, 2017, at 6:29 PM, Evelyn ..  wrote:
>
> which version of Legacy are you using?
>
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Pete  wrote:
>
>> Using Sourcewriter:
>>
>> How would you enter data for “Crossle Genealogical Abstracts Collection”
>>
>> The collection covers multiple surnames, many covering numerous volumes
>> in which the noted genealogist Phillip Crossle recorded is research.
>>
>> The collection is on microfilm.
>>
>>
>>
>> I thought it would be “manuscript” and tried the only option “generic”.
>> It would not print out the collection title.  I tried “book” this did not
>> fit and it expected additional data.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any hints?
>>
>>
>>
>> Pete
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Margaret Turner
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:37 PM
>> *To:* Legacy User Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Web page creation
>>
>>
>>
>> Check out Ron Ferguson's blog
>>
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Blogs/WebPge.php
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26 July 2017 at 10:17, Ian Macaulay  wrote:
>>
>> Is there a step by step instruction set to create a web presence with
>> Legacy?
>>
>> I have a TNG site up but have no clue how to manage it and am far too
>> slow to remember the basics.  I want to be able to just upload my data to a
>> restricted web page, set permissions and then sleep until the next update
>> is created.
>>
>> Ian
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Info

[Pete Beatty]

Version 9

Pete B (my phone)

> On Aug 5, 2017, at 6:29 PM, Evelyn ..  wrote:
> 
> which version of Legacy are you using?
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Pete  wrote:
>> Using Sourcewriter:
>> 
>> How would you enter data for “Crossle Genealogical Abstracts Collection”
>> 
>> The collection covers multiple surnames, many covering numerous volumes in 
>> which the noted genealogist Phillip Crossle recorded is research.
>> 
>> The collection is on microfilm.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I thought it would be “manuscript” and tried the only option “generic”.  It 
>> would not print out the collection title.  I tried “book” this did not fit 
>> and it expected additional data.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Any hints?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Margaret Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:37 PM
>> To: Legacy User Group 
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Web page creation
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Check out Ron Ferguson's blog
>> 
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Blogs/WebPge.php
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On 26 July 2017 at 10:17, Ian Macaulay  wrote:
>> 
>> Is there a step by step instruction set to create a web presence with Legacy?
>> 
>> I have a TNG site up but have no clue how to manage it and am far too slow 
>> to remember the basics.  I want to be able to just upload my data to a 
>> restricted web page, set permissions and then sleep until the next update is 
>> created.
>> 
>> Ian
>> 
>> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Info

[Evelyn ..]

which version of Legacy are you using?

On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Pete  wrote:

> Using Sourcewriter:
>
> How would you enter data for “Crossle Genealogical Abstracts Collection”
>
> The collection covers multiple surnames, many covering numerous volumes in
> which the noted genealogist Phillip Crossle recorded is research.
>
> The collection is on microfilm.
>
>
>
> I thought it would be “manuscript” and tried the only option “generic”.
> It would not print out the collection title.  I tried “book” this did not
> fit and it expected additional data.
>
>
>
> Any hints?
>
>
>
> Pete
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Margaret Turner
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:37 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Web page creation
>
>
>
> Check out Ron Ferguson's blog
>
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Blogs/WebPge.php
>
>
>
> On 26 July 2017 at 10:17, Ian Macaulay  wrote:
>
> Is there a step by step instruction set to create a web presence with
> Legacy?
>
> I have a TNG site up but have no clue how to manage it and am far too slow
> to remember the basics.  I want to be able to just upload my data to a
> restricted web page, set permissions and then sleep until the next update
> is created.
>
> Ian
>
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[LegacyUG] Source Citation Info

[Pete]

Using Sourcewriter:

How would you enter data for “Crossle Genealogical Abstracts Collection”

The collection covers multiple surnames, many covering numerous volumes in 
which the noted genealogist Phillip Crossle recorded is research.

The collection is on microfilm.

 

I thought it would be “manuscript” and tried the only option “generic”.  It 
would not print out the collection title.  I tried “book” this did not fit and 
it expected additional data.

 

Any hints?

 

Pete

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Margaret Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:37 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Web page creation

 

Check out Ron Ferguson's blog

http://www.fergys.co.uk/Blogs/WebPge.php

 

On 26 July 2017 at 10:17, Ian Macaulay  > wrote:

Is there a step by step instruction set to create a web presence with Legacy?

I have a TNG site up but have no clue how to manage it and am far too slow to 
remember the basics.  I want to be able to just upload my data to a restricted 
web page, set permissions and then sleep until the next update is created.

Ian



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Re: [LegacyUG] remove

[Crystal Payne]

At the bottom of this email is a link to unsub.  No one else can do that
for us.

Crystal

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[LegacyUG] The merger

[Linda Greethurst]

As I understand it, Legacy will continue to be its own program just as it
always has been.

To share your data with MyHeritage, FamilySearch, Ancestry or any other
commercial online tree - including DNA trees- has ALWAYS been your choice.
If you choose to put your data online, you are responsible to know what you
are getting into first. You know what kind of information gets put on
public trees - some is good, some is terrible.   You are in total control
of the decision to add your information.  Legacy doesn't do it
automatically for you.  They are just trying to facilitate a method of
transfer for you - IF that is what you want.  What happens after that
transfer of data to a new location is not a Legacy problem.

Legacy is a powerful and complicated program and I'm guessing that many of
us utilize only about half of the features consistantly.  I'm sure Geoff
and the rest of the team have done a lot of study ahead of time before
committing to the merger.  Gee, I bet they even know something about future
plans that we don't even have a clue.  Give them a chance.  No program is
going to be so perfect that it will do everything that every one of us
want.  But boy, Legacy sure fits the bill perfectly for me and I choose not
to put my trees online.

So, like Donna says "wait and see"before you start throwing out the barbs.
It's your choice.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger

[Donna Newell]

I believe we should take a "wait and see" attitude.  Not everything is all bad 
or all good.  I feel they deserve a fair shake and time to make it work. 
Negativity only breeds more negativity.   Are you a "glass half full or a glass 
half empty" person.  Life is short, I choose to look at the glass as half full.

Donna, Oklahoma

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> On Aug 5, 2017, at 11:34 AM, Bob Austen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dennis,
> Very well said – you’ve pretty well covered my concerns over this 
> acquisition.  I don’t hear many voices saying this is a good thing!
>  
> I quit using FTM as it could no longer handle the size of my file (no longer 
> a problem). They also changed their format. I much like the way Legacy 
> approaches the input of data. 
>  
> The bad reviews on MyHeritage seem to vastly outnumber the (genuine) good 
> reviews. I, too, may be looking for another program.
>  
> Bob
>  
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Dennis Murphy
> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 8:55 AM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger
>  
> I also have used Legacy for years after trying every genealogy program in the 
> market, as well as some that no longer exist. In my opinion the corporate 
> concept that "bigger id better" was born from either sheer greed or total 
> ignorance. My first voyage into the online data posting was with Rootsweb, 
> because it vowed to always "remain free." Then along comes Ancestry and they 
> gobble up Rootsweb, adding their databases to Ancestry World Tree. I know 
> this to be a fact as beginner errors in my original Rootsweb Gedcom have 
> transferred over to the Ancestry database.
>  
> And now along comes MyHeritage and they "merge" with Millennia, which is 
> likely a quaint euphemism for "buy everything you got" including and 
> especially their programmers..The handwriting on the wall reads "open your 
> wallet" as we're going a la carte..
>  
> I quit using Family Tree Maker due to their corporate greed in making sure 
> each new version was incompatible with earlier versions, thus forcing you to 
> buy the next upgrade. And now Jack has his thumb in Legacy's plumb pie and I 
> wonder how long it will take before all prices go up. 
>  
> Last but not least, it was but two weeks ago that I had to vehemently protest 
> to MyHeritage and one of its contributors about data posted on their site 
> concerning my "living" relatives. They did remove it but there is no telling 
> how long it was there and who may or may not have downloaded it. While many 
> sites do remove details about living persons, they do NOT remove their names; 
> none of the online databases that I know do this - but they should! As any 
> decent genealogist and/or identity thief knows, it's not that difficult to 
> find all sorts of information about a person given their parents and siblings 
> names.
>  
> There had better be a sure-fire way to "opt out" of any automatic grabbing of 
> any Legacy data by MyHeritage or I will be looking for yet another genealogy 
> program.
>  
> Worried
>  
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 4:05 AM, Jean Gobel  wrote:
> Shane, and Donna:   I had the same experience.  I finally managed to cancel 
> my subscription, but large pieces of my family tree were extended, some 
> correctly, some definitely incorrect.  I, too, have used Legacy since long 
> before it became “Legacy”, and thru the years convinced many friends to 
> become Legacy users.  I still haven’t mastered all the benefits available in 
> Legacy 8, and  I have resisted upgrading to Legacy 9.  Now I am sure I will 
> stay with Legacy 8 as long as it still functions on my computer.  I’m 
> disappointed, but hope this works out for Millennia.
>  
> Jean
>  
>  
> From: Shane Abdelnour
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 11:22 PM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger. Like Donna, i tried my heritage some 
> years age, I found someone had copied large chunks of my family tree, so 
> Iimmediately
> I immediately cancelled everything and continued using Legacy. I have used 
> Legacy .ever since. I refused to upgrade to version 9 ..now  I will stick to 
> what i know.
>  
> Shane
>  
>  
> On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 at 06:47, DonnaMR  wrote:
> I do not have a MyHeritage account, but when I looked at it again after the 
> merger announcement, it seems to be a family tree website.  I searched for 
> some of my ancestors and saw errors in just the little bit they let me see 
> without an account, just as when I search the Ancestry trees.
>  
> I have used Legacy just about from its beginning, through all the versions.  
> I do not used the search features; I just want good software that lets me 
> document names and personal data, events, and sources in an efficient manner, 
> and then lets me print useful and well-formatted reports.  I also use it to 
> create webpages for my own family history 

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 9

[Hogrooter .]

I am a long time Legacy user.  Recently, I also started using MyHeritage.
I had the same concerns about the quality of some of their information.
However, I have realized that I am the final judge about what gets added to
my tree.  In spite of some questionable sources I have discovered some that
were both new and accurate.  Without the new source suggestions I might
have missed them altogether.  This is the same situation we have always
faced:  Is the new information we find accurate?

Dean Adams

On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Carrie Pillow 
wrote:

> Hi Shane
>
>
>
> I am hesitant regarding My Heritage, I find the standard of their
> transcripts poor, but I am in great hope that the acquisition of a quality
> product like legacy and the Legacy customer support will make My Heritage
> sit up and think; and up their game.
>
>
>
> There are some wonderful features in 9, that as a Beta tester I have seen
> get better and better, I also trust the Legacy team to be open an honest,
> so I have no worries regarding using legacy 9.
>
>
>
> There has never been a better time to try it, and I know it’s not possible
> to go directly back to 8 from 9, but there is nothing stopping you
> exporting a gedcom to any program you wish use in the future
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Carrie
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Shane Abdelnour
> *Sent:* 05 August 2017 07:23
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger. Like Donna, i tried my heritage
> some years age, I found someone had copied large chunks of my family tree,
> so Iimmediately
>
>
>
> I immediately cancelled everything and continued using Legacy. I have used
> Legacy .ever since. I refused to upgrade to version 9 ..now  I will stick
> to what i know.
>
>
>
> Shane
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 at 06:47, DonnaMR  wrote:
>
> I do not have a MyHeritage account, but when I looked at it again after
> the merger announcement, it seems to be a family tree website.  I searched
> for some of my ancestors and saw errors in just the little bit they let me
> see without an account, just as when I search the Ancestry trees.
>
>
>
> I have used Legacy just about from its beginning, through all the
> versions.  I do not used the search features; I just want good software
> that lets me document names and personal data, events, and sources in an
> efficient manner, and then lets me print useful and well-formatted
> reports.  I also use it to create webpages for my own family history
> website.  I don’t upload family trees to sites like Ancestry and MyHeritage
> or Genii.  I want a website that shows complete source documentation and
> event notes that are as long as I want.   The thing I would like Legacy is
> to allow drag and drop on the webpages instead of just source code.  I have
> tried TNG more than once, including having them set it up, etc., and then
> paying someone to help a bit, but I just can’t master it.  Legacy webpages
> are easy for the reader to maneuver, and I like that uncluttered aspect.
>
>
>
> Through the years I have tried most of the other genealogy software, but
> Legacy has fit my needs better than any.   I do genealogy research on a
> client basis also, and I use Legacy if the project is large enough to merit
> it.  It creates footnotes for me to paste into the narrative report I write
> for the client, as well as printing reports when needed and creating a
> simple family tree for the client, if the project is large enough.  I
> create a family file and point them to the Legacy free download so they can
> see literally all my research.
>
>
>
> I am hoping for the best.
>
>
>
> Donna
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger

[Carrie Pillow]

Hi

I did try to follow this following Geoff Webinar a while ago, but it wasn’t to 
clear

Maybe we can persuade Michelle to do a step by step tip of the day 

Carrie

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Sent: 05 August 2017 18:15
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger


MyHeritage allows you to refuse permission for anyone to view or even find your 
tree unless you have made them a member of your site. You can also deny members 
the ability to make changes - they must send you the information or post it in 
the Family News section whence it is automatically emailed to you.



They need Legacy's programming talent!




CE


From: LegacyUserGroup 
>
 on behalf of Bob Austen >
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:34 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger


Hi Dennis,

Very well said – you’ve pretty well covered my concerns over this acquisition.  
I don’t hear many voices saying this is a good thing!



I quit using FTM as it could no longer handle the size of my file (no longer a 
problem). They also changed their format. I much like the way Legacy approaches 
the input of data.



The bad reviews on MyHeritage seem to vastly outnumber the (genuine) good 
reviews. I, too, may be looking for another program.



Bob



From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Dennis Murphy
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 8:55 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger



I also have used Legacy for years after trying every genealogy program in the 
market, as well as some that no longer exist. In my opinion the corporate 
concept that "bigger id better" was born from either sheer greed or total 
ignorance. My first voyage into the online data posting was with Rootsweb, 
because it vowed to always "remain free." Then along comes Ancestry and they 
gobble up Rootsweb, adding their databases to Ancestry World Tree. I know this 
to be a fact as beginner errors in my original Rootsweb Gedcom have transferred 
over to the Ancestry database.



And now along comes MyHeritage and they "merge" with Millennia, which is likely 
a quaint euphemism for "buy everything you got" including and especially their 
programmers..The handwriting on the wall reads "open your wallet" as we're 
going a la carte..



I quit using Family Tree Maker due to their corporate greed in making sure each 
new version was incompatible with earlier versions, thus forcing you to buy the 
next upgrade. And now Jack has his thumb in Legacy's plumb pie and I wonder how 
long it will take before all prices go up.



Last but not least, it was but two weeks ago that I had to vehemently protest 
to MyHeritage and one of its contributors about data posted on their site 
concerning my "living" relatives. They did remove it but there is no telling 
how long it was there and who may or may not have downloaded it. While many 
sites do remove details about living persons, they do NOT remove their names; 
none of the online databases that I know do this - but they should! As any 
decent genealogist and/or identity thief knows, it's not that difficult to find 
all sorts of information about a person given their parents and siblings names.



There had better be a sure-fire way to "opt out" of any automatic grabbing of 
any Legacy data by MyHeritage or I will be looking for yet another genealogy 
program.



Worried



On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 4:05 AM, Jean Gobel 
> wrote:

Shane, and Donna:   I had the same experience.  I finally managed to cancel my 
subscription, but large pieces of my family tree were extended, some correctly, 
some definitely incorrect.  I, too, have used Legacy since long before it 
became “Legacy”, and thru the years convinced many friends to become Legacy 
users.  I still haven’t mastered all the benefits available in Legacy 8, and  I 
have resisted upgrading to Legacy 9.  Now I am sure I will stay with Legacy 8 
as long as it still functions on my computer.  I’m disappointed, but hope this 
works out for Millennia.



Jean





From: Shane Abdelnour

Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 11:22 PM

To: Legacy User Group

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger. Like Donna, i tried my heritage some 
years age, I found someone had copied large chunks of my family tree, so 
Iimmediately

I immediately cancelled everything and continued using Legacy. I have used 
Legacy .ever since. I refused to upgrade to version 9 ..now  I will stick to 
what i know.



Shane





On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 at 06:47, DonnaMR 
> wrote:

I do not have a MyHeritage account, but when I looked at it again after the 
merger announcement, it seems to be a 

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger

[CE WOOD]

MyHeritage allows you to refuse permission for anyone to view or even find your 
tree unless you have made them a member of your site. You can also deny members 
the ability to make changes - they must send you the information or post it in 
the Family News section whence it is automatically emailed to you.


They need Legacy's programming talent!



CE



From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Bob Austen 
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:34 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger


Hi Dennis,

Very well said – you’ve pretty well covered my concerns over this acquisition.  
I don’t hear many voices saying this is a good thing!



I quit using FTM as it could no longer handle the size of my file (no longer a 
problem). They also changed their format. I much like the way Legacy approaches 
the input of data.



The bad reviews on MyHeritage seem to vastly outnumber the (genuine) good 
reviews. I, too, may be looking for another program.



Bob



From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Dennis Murphy
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 8:55 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger



I also have used Legacy for years after trying every genealogy program in the 
market, as well as some that no longer exist. In my opinion the corporate 
concept that "bigger id better" was born from either sheer greed or total 
ignorance. My first voyage into the online data posting was with Rootsweb, 
because it vowed to always "remain free." Then along comes Ancestry and they 
gobble up Rootsweb, adding their databases to Ancestry World Tree. I know this 
to be a fact as beginner errors in my original Rootsweb Gedcom have transferred 
over to the Ancestry database.



And now along comes MyHeritage and they "merge" with Millennia, which is likely 
a quaint euphemism for "buy everything you got" including and especially their 
programmers..The handwriting on the wall reads "open your wallet" as we're 
going a la carte..



I quit using Family Tree Maker due to their corporate greed in making sure each 
new version was incompatible with earlier versions, thus forcing you to buy the 
next upgrade. And now Jack has his thumb in Legacy's plumb pie and I wonder how 
long it will take before all prices go up.



Last but not least, it was but two weeks ago that I had to vehemently protest 
to MyHeritage and one of its contributors about data posted on their site 
concerning my "living" relatives. They did remove it but there is no telling 
how long it was there and who may or may not have downloaded it. While many 
sites do remove details about living persons, they do NOT remove their names; 
none of the online databases that I know do this - but they should! As any 
decent genealogist and/or identity thief knows, it's not that difficult to find 
all sorts of information about a person given their parents and siblings names.



There had better be a sure-fire way to "opt out" of any automatic grabbing of 
any Legacy data by MyHeritage or I will be looking for yet another genealogy 
program.



Worried



On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 4:05 AM, Jean Gobel 
> wrote:

Shane, and Donna:   I had the same experience.  I finally managed to cancel my 
subscription, but large pieces of my family tree were extended, some correctly, 
some definitely incorrect.  I, too, have used Legacy since long before it 
became “Legacy”, and thru the years convinced many friends to become Legacy 
users.  I still haven’t mastered all the benefits available in Legacy 8, and  I 
have resisted upgrading to Legacy 9.  Now I am sure I will stay with Legacy 8 
as long as it still functions on my computer.  I’m disappointed, but hope this 
works out for Millennia.



Jean





From: Shane Abdelnour

Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 11:22 PM

To: Legacy User Group

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger. Like Donna, i tried my heritage some 
years age, I found someone had copied large chunks of my family tree, so 
Iimmediately

I immediately cancelled everything and continued using Legacy. I have used 
Legacy .ever since. I refused to upgrade to version 9 ..now  I will stick to 
what i know.



Shane





On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 at 06:47, DonnaMR  wrote:

I do not have a MyHeritage account, but when I looked at it again after the 
merger announcement, it seems to be a family tree website.  I searched for some 
of my ancestors and saw errors in just the little bit they let me see without 
an account, just as when I search the Ancestry trees.



I have used Legacy just about from its beginning, through all the versions.  I 
do not used the search features; I just want good software that lets me 
document names and personal data, events, and sources in an efficient manner, 
and then lets me print useful and well-formatted reports.  I also use it to 

[LegacyUG] Legacy 9

[Carrie Pillow]

Hi Shane

I am hesitant regarding My Heritage, I find the standard of their transcripts 
poor, but I am in great hope that the acquisition of a quality product like 
legacy and the Legacy customer support will make My Heritage sit up and think; 
and up their game.

There are some wonderful features in 9, that as a Beta tester I have seen get 
better and better, I also trust the Legacy team to be open an honest, so I have 
no worries regarding using legacy 9.

There has never been a better time to try it, and I know it’s not possible to 
go directly back to 8 from 9, but there is nothing stopping you exporting a 
gedcom to any program you wish use in the future

Regards

Carrie

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Shane Abdelnour
Sent: 05 August 2017 07:23
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger. Like Donna, i tried my heritage some 
years age, I found someone had copied large chunks of my family tree, so 
Iimmediately

I immediately cancelled everything and continued using Legacy. I have used 
Legacy .ever since. I refused to upgrade to version 9 ..now  I will stick to 
what i know.

Shane


On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 at 06:47, DonnaMR 
> wrote:
I do not have a MyHeritage account, but when I looked at it again after the 
merger announcement, it seems to be a family tree website.  I searched for some 
of my ancestors and saw errors in just the little bit they let me see without 
an account, just as when I search the Ancestry trees.

I have used Legacy just about from its beginning, through all the versions.  I 
do not used the search features; I just want good software that lets me 
document names and personal data, events, and sources in an efficient manner, 
and then lets me print useful and well-formatted reports.  I also use it to 
create webpages for my own family history website.  I don’t upload family trees 
to sites like Ancestry and MyHeritage or Genii.  I want a website that shows 
complete source documentation and event notes that are as long as I want.   The 
thing I would like Legacy is to allow drag and drop on the webpages instead of 
just source code.  I have tried TNG more than once, including having them set 
it up, etc., and then paying someone to help a bit, but I just can’t master it. 
 Legacy webpages are easy for the reader to maneuver, and I like that 
uncluttered aspect.

Through the years I have tried most of the other genealogy software, but Legacy 
has fit my needs better than any.   I do genealogy research on a client basis 
also, and I use Legacy if the project is large enough to merit it.  It creates 
footnotes for me to paste into the narrative report I write for the client, as 
well as printing reports when needed and creating a simple family tree for the 
client, if the project is large enough.  I create a family file and point them 
to the Legacy free download so they can see literally all my research.

I am hoping for the best.

Donna
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger

[Bob Austen]

Hi Dennis,

Very well said – you’ve pretty well covered my concerns over this acquisition.  
I don’t hear many voices saying this is a good thing!

 

I quit using FTM as it could no longer handle the size of my file (no longer a 
problem). They also changed their format. I much like the way Legacy approaches 
the input of data.  

 

The bad reviews on MyHeritage seem to vastly outnumber the (genuine) good 
reviews. I, too, may be looking for another program.

 

Bob

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Dennis Murphy
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 8:55 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger

 

I also have used Legacy for years after trying every genealogy program in the 
market, as well as some that no longer exist. In my opinion the corporate 
concept that "bigger id better" was born from either sheer greed or total 
ignorance. My first voyage into the online data posting was with Rootsweb, 
because it vowed to always "remain free." Then along comes Ancestry and they 
gobble up Rootsweb, adding their databases to Ancestry World Tree. I know this 
to be a fact as beginner errors in my original Rootsweb Gedcom have transferred 
over to the Ancestry database.

 

And now along comes MyHeritage and they "merge" with Millennia, which is likely 
a quaint euphemism for "buy everything you got" including and especially their 
programmers..The handwriting on the wall reads "open your wallet" as we're 
going a la carte..

 

I quit using Family Tree Maker due to their corporate greed in making sure each 
new version was incompatible with earlier versions, thus forcing you to buy the 
next upgrade. And now Jack has his thumb in Legacy's plumb pie and I wonder how 
long it will take before all prices go up. 

 

Last but not least, it was but two weeks ago that I had to vehemently protest 
to MyHeritage and one of its contributors about data posted on their site 
concerning my "living" relatives. They did remove it but there is no telling 
how long it was there and who may or may not have downloaded it. While many 
sites do remove details about living persons, they do NOT remove their names; 
none of the online databases that I know do this - but they should! As any 
decent genealogist and/or identity thief knows, it's not that difficult to find 
all sorts of information about a person given their parents and siblings names.

 

There had better be a sure-fire way to "opt out" of any automatic grabbing of 
any Legacy data by MyHeritage or I will be looking for yet another genealogy 
program.

 

Worried

 

On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 4:05 AM, Jean Gobel  wrote:

Shane, and Donna:   I had the same experience.  I finally managed to cancel my 
subscription, but large pieces of my family tree were extended, some correctly, 
some definitely incorrect.  I, too, have used Legacy since long before it 
became “Legacy”, and thru the years convinced many friends to become Legacy 
users.  I still haven’t mastered all the benefits available in Legacy 8, and  I 
have resisted upgrading to Legacy 9.  Now I am sure I will stay with Legacy 8 
as long as it still functions on my computer.  I’m disappointed, but hope this 
works out for Millennia.

 

Jean

 

 

From: Shane Abdelnour 

Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 11:22 PM

To: Legacy User Group 

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger. Like Donna, i tried my heritage some 
years age, I found someone had copied large chunks of my family tree, so 
Iimmediately

I immediately cancelled everything and continued using Legacy. I have used 
Legacy .ever since. I refused to upgrade to version 9 ..now  I will stick to 
what i know.

 

Shane

 

 

On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 at 06:47, DonnaMR  wrote:

I do not have a MyHeritage account, but when I looked at it again after the 
merger announcement, it seems to be a family tree website.  I searched for some 
of my ancestors and saw errors in just the little bit they let me see without 
an account, just as when I search the Ancestry trees.

 

I have used Legacy just about from its beginning, through all the versions.  I 
do not used the search features; I just want good software that lets me 
document names and personal data, events, and sources in an efficient manner, 
and then lets me print useful and well-formatted reports.  I also use it to 
create webpages for my own family history website.  I don’t upload family trees 
to sites like Ancestry and MyHeritage or Genii.  I want a website that shows 
complete source documentation and event notes that are as long as I want.   The 
thing I would like Legacy is to allow drag and drop on the webpages instead of 
just source code.  I have tried TNG more than once, including having them set 
it up, etc., and then paying someone to help a bit, but I just can’t master it. 
 Legacy webpages are easy for the reader to maneuver, and I like that 
uncluttered aspect.

 

Through the years I have tried 

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger

[Dennis Murphy]

I also have used Legacy for years after trying every genealogy program in
the market, as well as some that no longer exist. In my opinion the
corporate concept that "bigger id better" was born from either sheer greed
or total ignorance. My first voyage into the online data posting was with
Rootsweb, because it vowed to always "remain free." Then along comes
Ancestry and they gobble up Rootsweb, adding their databases to Ancestry
World Tree. I know this to be a fact as beginner errors in my original
Rootsweb Gedcom have transferred over to the Ancestry database.

And now along comes MyHeritage and they "merge" with Millennia, which is
likely a quaint euphemism for "buy everything you got" including and
especially their programmers..The handwriting on the wall reads "open your
wallet" as we're going *a la carte..*

I quit using Family Tree Maker due to their corporate greed in making sure
each new version was incompatible with earlier versions, thus forcing you
to buy the next upgrade. And now Jack has his thumb in Legacy's plumb pie
and I wonder how long it will take before all prices go up.

Last but not least, it was but two weeks ago that I had to vehemently
protest to MyHeritage and one of its contributors about data posted on
their site concerning my "living" relatives. They did remove it but there
is no telling how long it was there and who may or may not have downloaded
it. While many sites do remove details about living persons, they do NOT
remove their names; none of the online databases that I know do this - but
they should! As any decent genealogist and/or identity thief knows, it's
not that difficult to find all sorts of information about a person given
their parents and siblings names.

There had better be a sure-fire way to "opt out" of any automatic grabbing
of any Legacy data by MyHeritage or I will be looking for yet another
genealogy program.

Worried

On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 4:05 AM, Jean Gobel  wrote:

> Shane, and Donna:   I had the same experience.  I finally managed to
> cancel my subscription, but large pieces of my family tree were extended,
> some correctly, some definitely incorrect.  I, too, have used Legacy since
> *long* before it became “Legacy”, and thru the years convinced many
> friends to become Legacy users.  I still haven’t mastered all the benefits
> available in Legacy 8, and  I have resisted upgrading to Legacy 9.  Now I
> am sure I will stay with Legacy 8 as long as it still functions on my
> computer.  I’m disappointed, but hope this works out for Millennia.
>
> Jean
>
>
> *From:* Shane Abdelnour
> *Sent:* Friday, August 04, 2017 11:22 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger. Like Donna, i tried my heritage
> some years age, I found someone had copied large chunks of my family tree,
> so Iimmediately
> I immediately cancelled everything and continued using Legacy. I have used
> Legacy .ever since. I refused to upgrade to version 9 ..now  I will stick
> to what i know.
>
> Shane
>
>
> On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 at 06:47, DonnaMR  wrote:
>
>> I do not have a MyHeritage account, but when I looked at it again after
>> the merger announcement, it seems to be a family tree website.  I searched
>> for some of my ancestors and saw errors in just the little bit they let me
>> see without an account, just as when I search the Ancestry trees.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have used Legacy just about from its beginning, through all the
>> versions.  I do not used the search features; I just want good software
>> that lets me document names and personal data, events, and sources in an
>> efficient manner, and then lets me print useful and well-formatted
>> reports.  I also use it to create webpages for my own family history
>> website.  I don’t upload family trees to sites like Ancestry and MyHeritage
>> or Genii.  I want a website that shows complete source documentation and
>> event notes that are as long as I want.   The thing I would like Legacy is
>> to allow drag and drop on the webpages instead of just source code.  I have
>> tried TNG more than once, including having them set it up, etc., and then
>> paying someone to help a bit, but I just can’t master it.  Legacy webpages
>> are easy for the reader to maneuver, and I like that uncluttered aspect.
>>
>>
>>
>> Through the years I have tried most of the other genealogy software, but
>> Legacy has fit my needs better than any.   I do genealogy research on a
>> client basis also, and I use Legacy if the project is large enough to merit
>> it.  It creates footnotes for me to paste into the narrative report I write
>> for the client, as well as printing reports when needed and creating a
>> simple family tree for the client, if the project is large enough.  I
>> create a family file and point them to the Legacy free download so they can
>> see literally all my research.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am hoping for the best.
>>
>>
>>
>> Donna
>> --
>>
>> LegacyUserGroup mailing list
>> 

Re: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage

[JoAnne Flynn]

Thanks for the explanation

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Brian Kelly  wrote:

> Unicode is a character encoding system that can handle all the characters
> for all the languages in the world plus special characters. It is important
> to those with ancestors from Slavic/Eastern European, China, Japan, etc.
> These are areas which use alphabets that are not supported currently in
> Legacy. It may have no impact on you but many researchers do have ancestors
> whose names use these special alphabets and who lived in areas where place
> names are in those alphabets.
>
> Adding Unicode support to Legacy will greatly expand the potential user
> base.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
> On 04-Aug-17 1:22 PM, JoAnne Flynn wrote:
>
>> I hate to appear completely ignorant- but what is Unicode and why is that
>> important to my genealogy recording keeping software??
>>
>> On Aug 4, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Ian Macaulay  macau...@icmac.ca>> wrote:
>>
>> If you manufacture something that thousands are using, would you cater to
>> one or two special cases???
>>
>> However I would be more worried about FAG.  Its Ancestry and in Direct
>> competition with My Heritage.
>>
>> I guess the test will be in the pudding,  But so far you can use Legacy
>> as it is for as long as your Computers can run it.
>> If you don't like 10 than you can keep on using what you have.
>>
>> I sure hope that the folks at Millennia get whats right in the way of
>> Jobs and Compensation,  They have been a great organization since their
>> start.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Leonard J. McCown > > wrote:
>>
>> *Apparently Millennia programmers have their priorities, but not
>> always the same as the users!*
>>
>> *__ __*
>>
>> *­*
>>
>> *___
>> __*
>>
>> *__ __*
>>
>> *Leonard J. McCown, Irving, Texas -- McCown Family History*
>>
>> *217 West 14th Street, Irving, Texas 75060-5903*
>>
>> *972-254-7952 *
>>
>> *leon...@mccown.org**--
>> **http://www.mccown.org***
>>
>> *People will not look forward to posterity who never look backward
>> to*
>>
>> *their ancestors. -- Edmund Burke, 1790*
>>
>> *___
>> __*
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> *__ __*
>>
>> *From:* LegacyUserGroup
>> [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com
>> ] *On Behalf Of
>> *Sherry
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 4, 2017 10:01 AM
>> *To:* Brian Kelly >
>> *Cc:* Legacy User Group > >
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> They've been saying that for years! I'd think there are tools to
>> help with the conversion.
>>
>>
>> S.
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 6:59 AM, Brian Kelly > > wrote:
>>
>> But, as the reply to the question explained, conversion will
>> mean a complete rewrite from the ground up.
>>
>> That is a big effort and unless MyHeritage is willing to invest
>> the money to do that by hiring a team of programmers it will not
>> happen.
>>
>> Brian Kelly
>>
>> On 04-Aug-17 9:54 AM, Hot.Rod.Wife wrote:
>>
>>   You'd think that would be high on the list for an
>> Israeli company...Sherry
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Brian Kelly  exma...@gmail.com>>
>> Date: 8/4/17  6:49 AM  (GMT-08:00)
>> To: Legacy Test > >, Legacy User Group
>> > >
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Millennia Sale to MyHeritage
>>
>> Well it looks like there will be interesting times ahead for
>> Millennia
>> and the software with the merger/acquisition of Millennia by
>> MyHeritage.
>>
>> Too bad that one of the answers about Legacy 10 is that it
>> will not
>> support Unicode. I guess that means that it will still be a
>> Visual Basic
>> application.
>>
>> I am beginning to think it will never be migrated to the
>> .net framework
>> and Unicode.
>>
>> Brian Kelly
>>
>> ---
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>>
>>
>>

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger. Like Donna, i tried my heritage some years age, I found someone had copied large chunks of my family tree, so Iimmediately

[Jon Patton]

Amen,, I feel the same way and agree with all that you posted.


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On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 1:22 AM, Shane Abdelnour 
wrote:

> I immediately cancelled everything and continued using Legacy. I have used
> Legacy .ever since. I refused to upgrade to version 9 ..now  I will stick
> to what i know.
>
> Shane
>
>
> On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 at 06:47, DonnaMR  wrote:
>
>> I do not have a MyHeritage account, but when I looked at it again after
>> the merger announcement, it seems to be a family tree website.  I searched
>> for some of my ancestors and saw errors in just the little bit they let me
>> see without an account, just as when I search the Ancestry trees.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have used Legacy just about from its beginning, through all the
>> versions.  I do not used the search features; I just want good software
>> that lets me document names and personal data, events, and sources in an
>> efficient manner, and then lets me print useful and well-formatted
>> reports.  I also use it to create webpages for my own family history
>> website.  I don’t upload family trees to sites like Ancestry and MyHeritage
>> or Genii.  I want a website that shows complete source documentation and
>> event notes that are as long as I want.   The thing I would like Legacy is
>> to allow drag and drop on the webpages instead of just source code.  I have
>> tried TNG more than once, including having them set it up, etc., and then
>> paying someone to help a bit, but I just can’t master it.  Legacy webpages
>> are easy for the reader to maneuver, and I like that uncluttered aspect.
>>
>>
>>
>> Through the years I have tried most of the other genealogy software, but
>> Legacy has fit my needs better than any.   I do genealogy research on a
>> client basis also, and I use Legacy if the project is large enough to merit
>> it.  It creates footnotes for me to paste into the narrative report I write
>> for the client, as well as printing reports when needed and creating a
>> simple family tree for the client, if the project is large enough.  I
>> create a family file and point them to the Legacy free download so they can
>> see literally all my research.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am hoping for the best.
>>
>>
>>
>> Donna
>> --
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] master source list

[C. DeLay]

I have several sources for obituaries. If it's a newspaper, I cite the
paper as my main source and the obituary itself in details. If it's the
funeral home website, then I cite the website as the main with the
individual in the detail (I also copy the specific page web address and
include that in the detail comment), and finally, I have recently been able
to get large numbers of obituaries from binders held by a historical
society. I made a master source for the binders (complete with information
about the depository) and then add all the information in the details.

For those binders, most of the time it also lists the name of the paper
where the original obituary appeared (they are photo copies) complete with
page/section numbers and as part of my detail comments, I include "citing
name of paper, date, section and page" so that I can either go find the
true original or someone else could. If it doesn't list the original
source, I add a comment to the effect that the original source was not
included. Someone would still be able to get to the document I saw (the
photocopied page in the binder) but it would take someone going to the
society archives in person.

Therefore, I'm a "lumper" but not an extreme one. Hopefully that wasn't too
confusing to follow.

Cynthia DeLay


Laurie G wrote:


Does the category "obituaries" belong on the master source list, with
the details changing for each person for whom you have an obituary, or
does the obitua ry for EACH person belong on the master source list
(such as Smith, Charley obit, Taylor, Tom obit, etc.?)
Thanks,
Laurie


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Re: [LegacyUG] Export Shared Events as regular events fails

[Cathy Pinner]

Karsten,

I'm aware that there are some bugs in the export of Shared events as 
regular events, some of which should be fixed in the next update but 
it's not an area of the program I test.


Cathy

Karsten Weikop wrote:


Hi all

I'm about to start using Shared Events and want to do a Gedcom Export.

When doing the export, I'm checking 'Export Shared Events as regular
events', but this is causing problems:

* When using my normal Tree, then Legacy is mixing up events, e.g. a
Witness to a Wedding is now exported as a Witness to a Burial for
another person.
* I'm have created a Tree for testing with only 3 persons, the
married couple and the wittness. Then the export fails with "Error
writing to GEDCOM file. Error 3021: There is no actual post."

Are there anyone out the, who with success has used 'Export Shared
Events as regular events'?

I'm using Legacy 9.0.0.189.

/Karsten Weikop
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[LegacyUG] Export Shared Events as regular events fails

[Karsten Weikop]

Hi all

I'm about to start using Shared Events and want to do a Gedcom Export.

When doing the export, I'm checking 'Export Shared Events as regular
events', but this is causing problems:

   - When using my normal Tree, then Legacy is mixing up events, e.g. a
   Witness to a Wedding is now exported as a Witness to a Burial for another
   person.
   - I'm have created a Tree for testing with only 3 persons, the married
   couple and the wittness. Then the export fails with "Error writing to
   GEDCOM file. Error 3021: There is no actual post."

Are there anyone out the, who with success has used  'Export Shared Events
as regular events'?

I'm using Legacy 9.0.0.189.

/Karsten Weikop
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger

[Jean Gobel]

Shane, and Donna:   I had the same experience.  I finally managed to cancel my 
subscription, but large pieces of my family tree were extended, some correctly, 
some definitely incorrect.  I, too, have used Legacy since long before it 
became “Legacy”, and thru the years convinced many friends to become Legacy 
users.  I still haven’t mastered all the benefits available in Legacy 8, and  I 
have resisted upgrading to Legacy 9.  Now I am sure I will stay with Legacy 8 
as long as it still functions on my computer.  I’m disappointed, but hope this 
works out for Millennia.

Jean


From: Shane Abdelnour
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 11:22 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger. Like Donna, i tried my heritage some 
years age, I found someone had copied large chunks of my family tree, so 
Iimmediately
I immediately cancelled everything and continued using Legacy. I have used 
Legacy .ever since. I refused to upgrade to version 9 ..now  I will stick to 
what i know.

Shane


On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 at 06:47, DonnaMR  wrote:
I do not have a MyHeritage account, but when I looked at it again after the 
merger announcement, it seems to be a family tree website.  I searched for some 
of my ancestors and saw errors in just the little bit they let me see without 
an account, just as when I search the Ancestry trees.

I have used Legacy just about from its beginning, through all the versions.  I 
do not used the search features; I just want good software that lets me 
document names and personal data, events, and sources in an efficient manner, 
and then lets me print useful and well-formatted reports.  I also use it to 
create webpages for my own family history website.  I don’t upload family trees 
to sites like Ancestry and MyHeritage or Genii.  I want a website that shows 
complete source documentation and event notes that are as long as I want.   The 
thing I would like Legacy is to allow drag and drop on the webpages instead of 
just source code.  I have tried TNG more than once, including having them set 
it up, etc., and then paying someone to help a bit, but I just can’t master it. 
 Legacy webpages are easy for the reader to maneuver, and I like that 
uncluttered aspect.

Through the years I have tried most of the other genealogy software, but Legacy 
has fit my needs better than any.   I do genealogy research on a client basis 
also, and I use Legacy if the project is large enough to merit it.  It creates 
footnotes for me to paste into the narrative report I write for the client, as 
well as printing reports when needed and creating a simple family tree for the 
client, if the project is large enough.  I create a family file and point them 
to the Legacy free download so they can see literally all my research.

I am hoping for the best.

Donna
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger. Like Donna, i tried my heritage some years age, I found someone had copied large chunks of my family tree, so Iimmediately

[Shane Abdelnour]

I immediately cancelled everything and continued using Legacy. I have used
Legacy .ever since. I refused to upgrade to version 9 ..now  I will stick
to what i know.

Shane


On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 at 06:47, DonnaMR  wrote:

> I do not have a MyHeritage account, but when I looked at it again after
> the merger announcement, it seems to be a family tree website.  I searched
> for some of my ancestors and saw errors in just the little bit they let me
> see without an account, just as when I search the Ancestry trees.
>
>
>
> I have used Legacy just about from its beginning, through all the
> versions.  I do not used the search features; I just want good software
> that lets me document names and personal data, events, and sources in an
> efficient manner, and then lets me print useful and well-formatted
> reports.  I also use it to create webpages for my own family history
> website.  I don’t upload family trees to sites like Ancestry and MyHeritage
> or Genii.  I want a website that shows complete source documentation and
> event notes that are as long as I want.   The thing I would like Legacy is
> to allow drag and drop on the webpages instead of just source code.  I have
> tried TNG more than once, including having them set it up, etc., and then
> paying someone to help a bit, but I just can’t master it.  Legacy webpages
> are easy for the reader to maneuver, and I like that uncluttered aspect.
>
>
>
> Through the years I have tried most of the other genealogy software, but
> Legacy has fit my needs better than any.   I do genealogy research on a
> client basis also, and I use Legacy if the project is large enough to merit
> it.  It creates footnotes for me to paste into the narrative report I write
> for the client, as well as printing reports when needed and creating a
> simple family tree for the client, if the project is large enough.  I
> create a family file and point them to the Legacy free download so they can
> see literally all my research.
>
>
>
> I am hoping for the best.
>
>
>
> Donna
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