Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

2019-01-10 Thread Michele Lewis via LegacyUserGroup
F.B. Purity  is a browser extension that works with Facebook. It filters
out all of the unwanted stuff including the ads.


On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 02:51 Pauline B. Cramer 
wrote:

> I have been using Legacy Family Tree since version 4 and I have been a
> subscriber to the legacyusergroup for a long time.  I enjoy reading the
> Legacyusergroup emails, which I sometimes find useful.
>
> I looked at the LUG FB a little, but did not find it useful and have not
> looked at it recently.  I have over 300 Facebook Friends, people with whom
> I share other interests.
>
> I am thankful that the Legacy User Group does not have ads.  On google,
> etc., I got so tired of seeing the same ads pop up, photos of clothes or
> shoes I would never want to purchase, etc., so I finally opted out of ads.
>Still get a lot of ads on, but  fewer and better quality of ads.
>
> Pauline Cramer
>
>
> On 1/8/2019 8:37 AM, Carolyn White via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
>
> I have "followed" the FB page for a while but even though I'm signed up
> for notifications, I never get one (and because of that I never remember to
> go to the page).  I second the usefulness of the email list.
>
> Carolyn White
>
> On Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 11:35:11 AM EST, Sherry H
>   wrote:
>
>
> I tried to follow the LUG FB page and it's totally insane. I can't
> keep up with it. People hijack threads on FB just as often as they do
> in mailing lists
>
> It can't take that long to copy a post you just made to FB and paste
> it into an email. No need to retype the entire post. The people on the
> mailing list won't get the follow-ups by the group that are on the FB
> page but there's no reason they can't get announcements or other
> pertinent information about Legacy.
>
> *Many email programs can thread a conversation for you.
> *It's very easy to search emails - I think much easier than searching
> in a FB group, esp if the emails have a good subject line.
> *Sticky announcements are annoying - once I've read it, it's still
> there in my face and I can't get rid of it. I can delete an email.
> *If a mailing list is moderated, either members or posts, then you can
> cut down on spam. In fact, I can't remember the last time I've seen
> spam on any of the mailing lists I'm on. On FB, you have to wade
> through all the ads that FB puts in a group. A moderated list can also
> put a stop to a thread by rejecting posts
> *Polls can be sent on mailing lists as well. I just responded to one
> on a book list.
> *I can choose to save emails that are of particular interest to me or
> delete ones I have no interest in. They're all lumped together on FB.
> *All the graphics on a FB page are annoying.
> *Mailing lists *can* allow pictures. Up to the list owner.
>
> I've been using FB for a few Christian groups and still not a fan - I
> so wish they were mailing lists instead!
>
> Sherry
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 5:58 AM Michele Lewis via LegacyUserGroup
>  wrote:
> >
> > We have some complaints about the Facebook LUG getting more information
> than
> > the email LUG. I wanted to explain why that is. The Facebook LUG is in a
> > much easier format to post information. I can do ten times as much stuff
> on
> > the Facebook LUG than I can do here and a lot faster.
> >
> > *Conversations are threaded so it is much easier to follow the
> conversations
> >
> > *You don't have to worry about "trimming" emails to make them more
> readable
> > (and most people don't do this anyways)
> > *It is very easy to search the group for past posts.
> > *There is a section where we can upload files that are accessible to
> > everyone
> > *We have "sticky" announcements
> > *Upcoming webinars are announced as well as links to the Legacy News
> posts
> > *We can delete spam
> > *We can close comments on a thread that has run its course
> > *You can post screenshots which makes understanding problems (and
> explaining
> > problems) so much easier
> > *You can create polls (fun!)
> >
> > There are 1579 members of the email LUG.  There are 18,963 members of the
> > Facebook LUG
> >
> > I know that there are some of you that have sworn you will never join
> > Facebook. Unfortunately you will be missing out on some things. I can't
> make
> > this email list do all of the things that Facebook can do.
> >
> > You can easily join Facebook and change your privacy settings so that you
> > are pretty much incognito. You can make it so that no one can send you
> > friend requests. You can format your name in such a way that it isn't
> > obvious who you are (you can't post a fake name

Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook vs List

2019-01-08 Thread Michele Lewis via LegacyUserGroup
A roll call of almost 19,000 people. Nope   

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG®
Legacy Educator
Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/  


From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Ian Macaulay via LegacyUserGroup
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 12:00 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Cc: Ian Macaulay 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Facebook vs List

I have no gripe about Facebook but will not use it, just because it eats far 
too much of my time.  Being a curious curator, it can probably kill.
However I also was surprised at the numbers quoted as membership.
Have you ever thought of doing a roll call?  Just to see  what the numbers 
really look like?
I for one am probably signed up as a Facebook member but never go there.  I do 
read the postings (At least the topics) on this list daily.  

Ian


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Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

2019-01-08 Thread Michele Lewis via LegacyUserGroup
Unfortunately Marian and can't just copy and paste every post. Besides the time 
involved, almost every post that Marian and I do have graphics. 

The email LUG is here for those who prefer this format and that is perfectly 
fine but I just wanted to let everyone know there are limitations. 


Michele Simmons Lewis, CG®
Legacy Educator
Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 
www.legacyfamilytree.com  


-Original Message-
From: Sherry H  
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 11:29 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Cc: Michele Lewis 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook

I tried to follow the LUG FB page and it's totally insane. I can't keep up with 
it. People hijack threads on FB just as often as they do in mailing lists

It can't take that long to copy a post you just made to FB and paste it into an 
email. No need to retype the entire post. The people on the mailing list won't 
get the follow-ups by the group that are on the FB page but there's no reason 
they can't get announcements or other pertinent information about Legacy.

*Many email programs can thread a conversation for you.
*It's very easy to search emails - I think much easier than searching in a FB 
group, esp if the emails have a good subject line.
*Sticky announcements are annoying - once I've read it, it's still there in my 
face and I can't get rid of it. I can delete an email.
*If a mailing list is moderated, either members or posts, then you can cut down 
on spam. In fact, I can't remember the last time I've seen spam on any of the 
mailing lists I'm on. On FB, you have to wade through all the ads that FB puts 
in a group. A moderated list can also put a stop to a thread by rejecting posts 
*Polls can be sent on mailing lists as well. I just responded to one on a book 
list.
*I can choose to save emails that are of particular interest to me or delete 
ones I have no interest in. They're all lumped together on FB.
*All the graphics on a FB page are annoying.
*Mailing lists *can* allow pictures. Up to the list owner.

I've been using FB for a few Christian groups and still not a fan - I so wish 
they were mailing lists instead!

Sherry

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 5:58 AM Michele Lewis via LegacyUserGroup 
 wrote:
>
> We have some complaints about the Facebook LUG getting more 
> information than the email LUG. I wanted to explain why that is. The 
> Facebook LUG is in a much easier format to post information. I can do 
> ten times as much stuff on the Facebook LUG than I can do here and a lot 
> faster.
>
> *Conversations are threaded so it is much easier to follow the 
> conversations
>
> *You don't have to worry about "trimming" emails to make them more 
> readable (and most people don't do this anyways) *It is very easy to 
> search the group for past posts.
> *There is a section where we can upload files that are accessible to 
> everyone *We have "sticky" announcements *Upcoming webinars are 
> announced as well as links to the Legacy News posts *We can delete 
> spam *We can close comments on a thread that has run its course *You 
> can post screenshots which makes understanding problems (and 
> explaining
> problems) so much easier
> *You can create polls (fun!)
>
> There are 1579 members of the email LUG.  There are 18,963 members of 
> the Facebook LUG
>
> I know that there are some of you that have sworn you will never join 
> Facebook. Unfortunately you will be missing out on some things. I 
> can't make this email list do all of the things that Facebook can do.
>
> You can easily join Facebook and change your privacy settings so that 
> you are pretty much incognito. You can make it so that no one can send 
> you friend requests. You can format your name in such a way that it 
> isn't obvious who you are (you can't post a fake name per Facebook 
> rules but there is some flexibility). You can pretty much block 
> everything. You need to go into the Privacy settings (all of the 
> settings really) and go line by line to get it set up like you want. 
> We have users that have Facebook for no other reason that the LUG 
> group. I also HIGHLY recommend the browser extension F.B. Purity. It 
> works with Facebook to give a TON of options on what you see and what 
> you don't see. It gets rid of all the junk stuff (like ads).
>
> Totally up to you. I just wanted to explain why there is a difference 
> between what you see and what they see. If you change your mind, you 
> can join the Facebook LUG here: 
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/LegacyUserGroup/
> Click JOIN and then you will be asked three questions before you are 
> approved. This keeps out spammers. The Administrators of the group 
> are, Geoff Rasmussen, Marian Pierre-Louis, Ron Cannon (head of tech 
> support), and I. The moderators are John Lisle and Cathy Pinner, two 
> names I am sure you ar

[LegacyUG] Facebook

2019-01-08 Thread Michele Lewis via LegacyUserGroup
We have some complaints about the Facebook LUG getting more information than
the email LUG. I wanted to explain why that is. The Facebook LUG is in a
much easier format to post information. I can do ten times as much stuff on
the Facebook LUG than I can do here and a lot faster.

*Conversations are threaded so it is much easier to follow the conversations

*You don't have to worry about "trimming" emails to make them more readable
(and most people don't do this anyways) 
*It is very easy to search the group for past posts. 
*There is a section where we can upload files that are accessible to
everyone
*We have "sticky" announcements 
*Upcoming webinars are announced as well as links to the Legacy News posts
*We can delete spam
*We can close comments on a thread that has run its course
*You can post screenshots which makes understanding problems (and explaining
problems) so much easier
*You can create polls (fun!)

There are 1579 members of the email LUG.  There are 18,963 members of the
Facebook LUG

I know that there are some of you that have sworn you will never join
Facebook. Unfortunately you will be missing out on some things. I can't make
this email list do all of the things that Facebook can do.

You can easily join Facebook and change your privacy settings so that you
are pretty much incognito. You can make it so that no one can send you
friend requests. You can format your name in such a way that it isn't
obvious who you are (you can't post a fake name per Facebook rules but there
is some flexibility). You can pretty much block everything. You need to go
into the Privacy settings (all of the settings really) and go line by line
to get it set up like you want. We have users that have Facebook for no
other reason that the LUG group. I also HIGHLY recommend the browser
extension F.B. Purity. It works with Facebook to give a TON of options on
what you see and what you don't see. It gets rid of all the junk stuff (like
ads).

Totally up to you. I just wanted to explain why there is a difference
between what you see and what they see. If you change your mind, you can
join the Facebook LUG here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/LegacyUserGroup/
Click JOIN and then you will be asked three questions before you are
approved. This keeps out spammers. The Administrators of the group are,
Geoff Rasmussen, Marian Pierre-Louis, Ron Cannon (head of tech support), and
I. The moderators are John Lisle and Cathy Pinner, two names I am sure you
are familiar with.

In addition, we also have separate LUGS for the Dutch
(https://www.facebook.com/groups/LegacyNederlands/) and the Danes
(https://www.facebook.com/groups/198010627281215/)  These two groups are
admin'd by the Legacy Translation Teams. I am also admin on these two groups
in case I am needed but I don't actively post there (my Dutch and Danish are
a bit weak).

I hope this information helps.


Michele Simmons Lewis, CGR
Legacy Educator
Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com  
www.legacyfamilytree.com   




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