Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing

[Gene Young]

I believe this is what the OP is referring to.  I do not believe it can 
be turned off.

-
When you are in Assigned Sources and a source is highlighted, if you 
click on the copy source icon in the lower left of the page. You get a 
warning;

Copy to Clipboard
The Source Clipboard currently contains a source. Do you want to
Overwrite it or Cancel?
Copy/Overwrite Existing   Cancel
-
If this is not what the OP is referring to disregard.

As a side note, it is helpful if, when requesting help, you specifically 
reference the page or tab you are looking at.  This information will be 
displayed at the top of the page or tab you are seeking help on. It will 
save confusion and speed up your assistance.



On 9/18/2023 1:36 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:

Jennifer,

I think you are talking about the Prompt for Detail on the Source 
Clipboard so that you can change the detail before applying again.
I leave it on because I often change source on the clipboard and 
forget I have.

But sure you can turn it off.
Look at the Source Clipboard screen when it is open.
See the checkbox lower left corner.
It is also controlled from Options > Customise 7.4
If you watch any of the webinars from Geoff Rasmussen you'll see he 
works with it off but is far more disciplined than I am in applying 
the particular source and detail to every field and person it applies 
to before doing anything else.


Cathy

Jennifer Crockett wrote:


Is there any way to turn off the prompt asking if you want to
overwrite what is on the source clipboard?

Jennifer





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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing

[Cathy Pinner]

Jennifer,
I don't use two screens but among those who do I've heard them advise to 
keep Legacy on the primary screen. This is more important if sometimes 
you use only one. If you always use two then you need to move every 
screen that opens to the monitor you want it on. I don't know whether 
that works for the pop-ups. For other screens, Legacy remembers where 
they were and to reset them you need to delete Legacy2.usr from 
...\Documents\Legacy Family Tree\_AppData\usr\ folder


Cathy


Jennifer Crockett 
Monday, 18 September 2023 17:25
Yes, what Jenny said.
I am using two computer screens and that prompt about overwriting pops 
up on a different screen from the one I am entering data on and I keep 
forgetting to look for it there so I hear the ding and it annoys me. 
Maybe I need to learn more about using two screens.


Jennifer



Jenny M Benson 
Monday, 18 September 2023 16:36



No.  When you click on the Copy to Clipboard icon at the bottom right 
of the Assigned Sources screen you are asked "The Source Clipboard 
currently contains a Source.  Do you want to Overwrite it or Cancel?" 
There are buttons for those options.  I could be wrong, but I don't 
think you can switch off that prompt.

Cathy Pinner 
Monday, 18 September 2023 13:36
Jennifer,

I think you are talking about the Prompt for Detail on the Source 
Clipboard so that you can change the detail before applying again.
I leave it on because I often change source on the clipboard and 
forget I have.

But sure you can turn it off.
Look at the Source Clipboard screen when it is open.
See the checkbox lower left corner.
It is also controlled from Options > Customise 7.4
If you watch any of the webinars from Geoff Rasmussen you'll see he 
works with it off but is far more disciplined than I am in applying 
the particular source and detail to every field and person it applies 
to before doing anything else.


Cathy

Jennifer Crockett wrote:
Jennifer Crockett 
Sunday, 17 September 2023 15:41
Is there any way to turn off the prompt asking if you want to 
overwrite what is on the source clipboard?


Jennifer





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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing

[Henry T. Peterson Jr.]

Ladies, just drag the box to the same screen. Windows should remember and next 
time it won’t appear on the wrong screen screen. However I have seen where you 
maybe running multiple programs where it may appear on top, so you may hear the 
ding… usually the taskbar also may have an icon of a different intensity.
I hope this helps.
Kind regards
Henry

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> On Sep 18, 2023, at 4:39 AM, Jenny M Benson  wrote:
> 
> On 18/09/2023 10:25, Jennifer Crockett wrote:
>> Yes, what Jenny said.
>> I am using two computer screens and that prompt about overwriting pops up on 
>> a different screen from the one I am entering data on and I keep forgetting 
>> to look for it there so I hear the ding and it annoys me. Maybe I need to 
>> learn more about using two screens.
> Jennifer, I feel your pain!  I keep having the same problem.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing

[Jenny M Benson]

On 18/09/2023 10:25, Jennifer Crockett wrote:

Yes, what Jenny said.
I am using two computer screens and that prompt about overwriting pops 
up on a different screen from the one I am entering data on and I keep 
forgetting to look for it there so I hear the ding and it annoys me. 
Maybe I need to learn more about using two screens.



Jennifer, I feel your pain!  I keep having the same problem.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing

[Jennifer Crockett]

Yes, what Jenny said.
I am using two computer screens and that prompt about overwriting pops up
on a different screen from the one I am entering data on and I keep
forgetting to look for it there so I hear the ding and it annoys me. Maybe
I need to learn more about using two screens.

Jennifer

On Mon, 18 Sep 2023 at 6:37 pm, Jenny M Benson 
wrote:

> On 18/09/2023 06:36, Cathy Pinner wrote:
> >
> >
> > I think you are talking about the Prompt for Detail on the Source
> > Clipboard so that you can change the detail before applying again.
>
>
> No.  When you click on the Copy to Clipboard icon at the bottom right of
> the Assigned Sources screen you are asked "The Source Clipboard
> currently contains a Source.  Do you want to Overwrite it or Cancel?"
> There are buttons for those options.  I could be wrong, but I don't
> think you can switch off that prompt.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing

[Cathy Pinner]

Thanks Jenny,

No I don't think you can turn that off. I wouldn't turn it off anyway. 
It's a reminder to check whether or not I've finished with the source I 
have on the clipboard.

I don't use that copy to clipboard very often.

Cathy

Jenny M Benson wrote:


On 18/09/2023 06:36, Cathy Pinner wrote:




I think you are talking about the Prompt for Detail on the Source
Clipboard so that you can change the detail before applying again.




No.  When you click on the Copy to Clipboard icon at the bottom right
of the Assigned Sources screen you are asked "The Source Clipboard
currently contains a Source.  Do you want to Overwrite it or Cancel?"
There are buttons for those options.  I could be wrong, but I don't
think you can switch off that prompt.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing

[Jenny M Benson]

On 18/09/2023 06:36, Cathy Pinner wrote:



I think you are talking about the Prompt for Detail on the Source 
Clipboard so that you can change the detail before applying again.



No.  When you click on the Copy to Clipboard icon at the bottom right of 
the Assigned Sources screen you are asked "The Source Clipboard 
currently contains a Source.  Do you want to Overwrite it or Cancel?" 
There are buttons for those options.  I could be wrong, but I don't 
think you can switch off that prompt.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing

[Cathy Pinner]

Jane,
I don't understand what you mean.
When the Source Clipboard is opened with the triangle, you can change 
the detail or you can change the Master Source on it. When it opens as a 
result of having Prompt for Detail checked, you can only change the 
source detail.
Whatever is on the clipboard is applied when you click to apply it to a 
particular field or to all used fields. If you don't have Prompt for 
Detail checked, you don't get to review what is on the clipboard.


One of the reasons I keep Prompt for Detail checked is that I often 
change Master Source by right clicking on the Source Clipboard Triangle 
and choosing a different saved source. I often save not just the Master 
Source but "boiler text" for the Source Detail. I need to check which 
Master Source is on the clipboard and adjust the Source detail as 
appropriate.


Cathy

Jane Linkswiler wrote:


I always assumed that meant overwriting the source already on the
clipboard. Not?

Jane in Phoenix

*From:* LegacyUserGroup  *On
Behalf Of *Cathy Pinner
*Sent:* Sunday, September 17, 2023 10:36 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing

Jennifer,

I think you are talking about the Prompt for Detail on the Source
Clipboard so that you can change the detail before applying again.
I leave it on because I often change source on the clipboard and
forget I have.
But sure you can turn it off.
Look at the Source Clipboard screen when it is open.
See the checkbox lower left corner.
It is also controlled from Options > Customise 7.4
If you watch any of the webinars from Geoff Rasmussen you'll see he
works with it off but is far more disciplined than I am in applying
the particular source and detail to every field and person it applies
to before doing anything else.

Cathy

Jennifer Crockett wrote:


    Is there any way to turn off the prompt asking if you want to
    overwrite what is on the source clipboard?

    Jennifer


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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing

[Jane Linkswiler]

I always assumed that meant overwriting the source already on the clipboard. 
Not?

 

Jane in Phoenix

 

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Cathy Pinner
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 10:36 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing

 

Jennifer,

I think you are talking about the Prompt for Detail on the Source Clipboard so 
that you can change the detail before applying again.
I leave it on because I often change source on the clipboard and forget I have.
But sure you can turn it off.
Look at the Source Clipboard screen when it is open.
See the checkbox lower left corner.
It is also controlled from Options > Customise 7.4
If you watch any of the webinars from Geoff Rasmussen you'll see he works with 
it off but is far more disciplined than I am in applying the particular source 
and detail to every field and person it applies to before doing anything else.

Cathy

Jennifer Crockett wrote:




Is there any way to turn off the prompt asking if you want to 
overwrite what is on the source clipboard?

Jennifer

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing

[Cathy Pinner]

Jennifer,

I think you are talking about the Prompt for Detail on the Source 
Clipboard so that you can change the detail before applying again.
I leave it on because I often change source on the clipboard and forget 
I have.

But sure you can turn it off.
Look at the Source Clipboard screen when it is open.
See the checkbox lower left corner.
It is also controlled from Options > Customise 7.4
If you watch any of the webinars from Geoff Rasmussen you'll see he 
works with it off but is far more disciplined than I am in applying the 
particular source and detail to every field and person it applies to 
before doing anything else.


Cathy

Jennifer Crockett wrote:


Is there any way to turn off the prompt asking if you want to
overwrite what is on the source clipboard?

Jennifer

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing

[Jane Linkswiler]

Not something I’ve ever wanted to do. I think it a very wise feature.

Jane in Phoenix

 

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Carol Walkins
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 3:33 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing

 

I don't  know.

 

On Sun, Sep 17, 2023, 3:42 AM Jennifer Crockett mailto:ferfi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Is there any way to turn off the prompt asking if you want to overwrite what is 
on the source clipboard?

 

Jennifer

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing

[Carol Walkins]

I don't  know.

On Sun, Sep 17, 2023, 3:42 AM Jennifer Crockett  wrote:

> Is there any way to turn off the prompt asking if you want to overwrite
> what is on the source clipboard?
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing online "certificate" from England & Wales GRO

[Cathy Pinner]

I haven't yet purchased one but would source the same as the other 
certificates I've purchased from the GRO and just add a detail comment - 
digital image downloaded from GRO.


Cathy

Jenny M Benson wrote:


I have just used (for the first time) the new service from the England
& Wales General Register Office to purchase an online copy of a Death
Certificate.  Being somewhat pedantic by nature, I didn't want to use
the same SourceWriter source for this as I have used for "paper copy"
Certificates, so I did the following:

From Add Sources I chose Death records>Death certificate, short
form>Online image.  The fields for the Master Source are Jurisdiction
- England & Wales, Agency/Creator - Registrar General, Series -
Digital Images of Death Certificates, Website Creator - General
Register Office, URL - gro.gov.uk.

On the Details tab, the Collection or Database Name and Certificate
No. fields are left blank.  I attach the image and copy all the
information into the Text field on the Text/Comments tab.

How do other LUGgers tackle this?
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing question

[Cathy Pinner]

Hi Scott,
RE question 1.
If you have sources that disagree in substance (not typos and not 
transcripts) then you need to record all of them. Depending on the 
disagreement, add Alt. Events. eg if sources differ on the birth date or 
year, add an Alt. Birth (I don't mean from Census if the age given is 
only plus or minus one from the age from a more reliable birth record).
The genealogical standard is to note all information and write notes to 
resolve the differences or why you can't resolve them.


RE question 2.  I sometimes add notes as you suggest (Year only), (day 
and month only - no year eg from a birthday book)
The actual relevant part of the text of that source will be in Source 
Detail text which I don't normally include in a citation.


RE question 3. If a book disagrees with itself then you need to note 
that. The page with the most complete detail may be correct but may not. 
This often happens with compiled family histories as the data comes from 
various family members over a period of time. I then try to find a 
better source.


RE question 4. If you've seen and sourced an original publication I 
wouldn't source something that referred to it UNLESS there was a 
discussion of the accuracy or not of that earlier publication. However, 
I look for original sources, not sources from compiled histories.


For more on sourcing adequately and what should be in the source 
citation see https://www.evidenceexplained.com which has heaps of 
examples and discussions.


Cathy


Scott Hall 
Saturday, 12 December 2020 10:26 PM
I have recently begun replacing my extensive sourcing notes with 
direct sources attached to the record fields. This will allow the 
sources to be more easily transferred and understood when my tree is 
uploaded to genealogy sites, as well as enabling sources to appear on 
reports.


But I have a few questions about how you handle a few sourcing challenges.

First, how do you handle sources that a) disagree or b) have incorrect 
information (such as typos)?


My thought is that if I know that one source is correct, I'll link 
that source, and only include a note regarding the other in the 
Research Notes.  This way the source is recorded, but it's identified 
as incorrect.  Only the correct source(s) will appear on reports.


Second, how do you handle it when a source only provides PART of the 
information in the field (e.g. only the birthdate but not the place).  
When the complete picture is sewn together from multiple sources, its 
challenge to reference it (again so it appears properly on reports).  
Two options, perhaps:
1) Record the actual information found in the notes. While the linked 
source may appear to support all the information, the notes will 
clarify that it's only partial.  However, this may not be obvious on a 
report
2) Append the detail source with a note that clarifies the information 
(for example, "(birth date only)".  This seems the more thorough approach.


Third, how do you handle detail sourcing when data appears in a single 
source multiple times (for example a genealogical book of a region 
that contains multiple intermarried families)?  This is especially 
true when the information within the book doesn't agree.  Here's what 
I've been thinking:


Rather than clutter up the source link with every instance the data is 
found within the text, I record the page where the most complete data 
is found and ignore the remaining pages.  If the data disagrees with 
itself, I either a) link to the correct page and note the incorrect 
data, or b) make no links and record both sets of data in the research 
notes.


Lastly, how do you handle derivative sources?  By this I mean texts of 
data that use earlier publications as their source.  It seems 
redundant to source them at all if its known that the data is just 
pulled from an earlier publication that you've already sourced.  Yes, 
you could link it and append the source with "citing " but if 
you've already linked the original source, what's the point?  In this 
case, I feel like I should only link any additional information found 
in the newer publication.


Thanks
Scott







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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

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>> On 22-Jun-20 1:41 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>> > I thought I'd mention a little tip which I reminded myself about
>> > recently:  it might be useful to a few people.
>> >
>> > I was working on a project which involved adding a lot of new people and
>> > new information to my database but restricted to about 4 or 5 different
>> > Sources.  As my Master Source List is a a few hundred items long, it
>> > takes quite while to find the one I want each time,
>>
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>> for the heads-up.
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

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Perhaps it isn't a person at all but some kind of bug.Well bug anyhow, even if human!! 🤗GillianOn 24 Jun 2020 4:19 pm, Roberta Schwalm  wrote:Well said.  I don't know how many times this person has been given instructions on how to unsubscribe!On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 8:54 AM Andrew Robbie <andrew.robbie@comcast.net> wrote:Because you subscribed to this newsgroup, and until you are intelligent enough to read and perform the simple steps provided to you to unsubscribe, you will continue to get this information you so dearly opted in for… From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-bounces@legacyusers.com> On Behalf Of calawson@tpg.com.auSent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 11:11 PMTo: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster  Why do these Imbeciles keep sending me this Bullshitlegacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>  scjones@optusnet.com.au   LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com>  scjones@optusnet.com.aujuicebones@gmail.comgenes@cedarbank.me.ukgeneakit@gmail.com<jacollinson@tiscali.co.uk>legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com  rpubgen04@cox.net> David Cripps <cripps_nbn@iinet.net.au- Original Message -From:"Legacy User Group" <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> To:<legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>Cc: Sent:Mon, 22 Jun 2020 10:07:17 +1000Subject:Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little fasterOn 22-Jun-20 1:41 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:> I thought I'd mention a little tip which I reminded myself about> recently:  it might be useful to a few people.> > I was working on a project which involved adding a lot of new people and> new information to my database but restricted to about 4 or 5 different> Sources.  As my Master Source List is a a few hundred items long, it> takes quite while to find the one I want each time,Thanks Jenny, you're a genius, I've never used that feature, so thanksfor the heads-up.Cheers & ThanksDavid-- David Cripps <cripps_nbn@iinet.net.au>Hobart, TasmaniaGedmatch: EH6082465FTDNA: N10906-- LegacyUserGroup mailing listLegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.comTo manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.comArchives at:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/-- 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

[Roberta Schwalm]

Well said.  I don't know how many times this person has been given
instructions on how to unsubscribe!

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 8:54 AM Andrew Robbie 
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> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  *On
> Behalf Of *calaw...@tpg.com.au
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 23, 2020 11:11 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster
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>  Why do these Imbeciles keep sending me this Bullshit
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> legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>  scjo...@optusnet.com.au
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com>  scjo...@optusnet.com.au
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> David Cripps 
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> "Legacy User Group" 
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> Mon, 22 Jun 2020 10:07:17 +1000
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> Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster
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> On 22-Jun-20 1:41 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
> > I thought I'd mention a little tip which I reminded myself about
> > recently:  it might be useful to a few people.
> >
> > I was working on a project which involved adding a lot of new people and
> > new information to my database but restricted to about 4 or 5 different
> > Sources.  As my Master Source List is a a few hundred items long, it
> > takes quite while to find the one I want each time,
>
> Thanks Jenny, you're a genius, I've never used that feature, so thanks
> for the heads-up.
>
>
> Cheers & Thanks
> David
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

[Andrew Robbie]

Because you subscribed to this newsgroup, and until you are intelligent enough 
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From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
calaw...@tpg.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 11:11 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

 

 Why do these Imbeciles keep sending me this Bullshit  

 

 


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scjo...@optusnet.com.au <mailto:scjo...@optusnet.com.au>


LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com> >  
scjo...@optusnet.com.au <mailto:scjo...@optusnet.com.au> 


juicebo...@gmail.com <mailto:juicebo...@gmail.com> 
ge...@cedarbank.me.uk <mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk> 

genea...@gmail.com <mailto:genea...@gmail.com> 
mailto:jacollin...@tiscali.co.uk> >


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rpubge...@cox.net <mailto:rpubge...@cox.net> >


 
David Cripps mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >

 

To:

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Cc:

 

Sent:

Mon, 22 Jun 2020 10:07:17 +1000

Subject:

Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster


On 22-Jun-20 1:41 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
> I thought I'd mention a little tip which I reminded myself about
> recently:  it might be useful to a few people.
> 
> I was working on a project which involved adding a lot of new people and
> new information to my database but restricted to about 4 or 5 different
> Sources.  As my Master Source List is a a few hundred items long, it
> takes quite while to find the one I want each time,

Thanks Jenny, you're a genius, I've never used that feature, so thanks
for the heads-up.


Cheers & Thanks
David


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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

[calawson]

 

- Original Message -
From: "Legacy User Group" 
To:"Legacy User Group" 
Cc:
Sent:Wed, 24 Jun 2020 17:43:27 +1000
Subject:Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

Well said Bruce!!

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:00 PM Bruce Jones  wrote:
Since you called me an imbecil (I sent one of the emails you
complained about) let me ask you what you would call a person who
signs on to a list to get emails, then complains when those emails
arrive?
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 9:05 PM Jennie Matheson  wrote:
Because you subscribed to the list!  And there is no need to be rude
or swear!
You have received messages before advising you how to unsubscribe -
but once more:
 TO MANAGE YOUR SUBSCRIPTION AND UNSUBSCRIBE
HTTP://LEGACYUSERS.COM/MAILMAN/LISTINFO/LEGACYUSERGROUP_LEGACYUSERS.COM
[3] 
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:10 PM  wrote:
 Why do these Imbeciles keep sending me this Bullshit  
 

LEGACYUSERGROUP@LEGACYUSERS.COM
[5]>  scjo...@optusnet.com.au [6]   

LEGACYUSERGROUP@LEGACYUSERS.COM
[7]>  scjo...@optusnet.com.au [8]

juicebo...@gmail.com [9]ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
[10]

genea...@gmail.com [11]

LEGACYUSERGROUP@LEGACYUSERS.COM [13]  rpubge...@cox.net
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- Original Message -
From: "Legacy User Group" 
To:"Legacy User Group" 
Cc:
Sent:Sun, 21 Jun 2020 16:06:24 +
Subject:Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

 Thanks for sharing that trick Jenny! 

Monique A. Riley, AG® 

-
FROM: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of Jenny M Benson 
SENT: Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:41:29 AM
TO: Legacy User Group 
SUBJECT: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster     I thought I'd
mention a little tip which I reminded myself about 
 recently:  it might be useful to a few people.

 I was working on a project which involved adding a lot of new people
and 
 new information to my database but restricted to about 4 or 5
different 
 Sources.  As my Master Source List is a a few hundred items long, it

 takes quite while to find the one I want each time,

 What I do under these circumstances is to open the Master Source List

 and Tag those 4 or 5 different Master Sources and then select Show
Only 
 Tagged Sources.  If I do then need to select a different Source it
only 
 takes a moment to untick the Tagged box, select the Source I want and

 then go back to the limited list.

 Of course, I also the Source Clipboard as much as possible.  For 
 example, if I am adding a new set of children to a family it might 
 involve Sourcing their Births and their Baptisms.  Firstly I add
each of 
 the children, adding as much information as I know on their
Individual 
 screen.  Then I add the Source for the Birth of the first one and
copy 
 that to the Clipboard, paste it for the next child and amend the
details 
 as necessary, copy and paste to the next and so on.  That I repeat
the 
 process to Source their Baptisms.

 -- 
 Jenny M Benson - http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/ [20]
 Wrexham, UK

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

[calawson]

 

- Original Message -
From: "Legacy User Group" 
To:"Legacy User Group" 
Cc:
Sent:Wed, 24 Jun 2020 00:01:08 -0700
Subject:Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

Since you called me an imbecil (I sent one of the emails you
complained about) let me ask you what you would call a person who
signs on to a list to get emails, then complains when those emails
arrive?
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 9:05 PM Jennie Matheson  wrote:
Because you subscribed to the list!  And there is no need to be rude
or swear!
You have received messages before advising you how to unsubscribe -
but once more:
 TO MANAGE YOUR SUBSCRIPTION AND UNSUBSCRIBE
HTTP://LEGACYUSERS.COM/MAILMAN/LISTINFO/LEGACYUSERGROUP_LEGACYUSERS.COM
[2] 
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:10 PM  wrote:
 Why do these Imbeciles keep sending me this Bullshit  
 

LEGACYUSERGROUP@LEGACYUSERS.COM
[4]>  scjo...@optusnet.com.au [5]   

LEGACYUSERGROUP@LEGACYUSERS.COM
[6]>  scjo...@optusnet.com.au [7]

juicebo...@gmail.com [8]ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
[9]

genea...@gmail.com [10]

LEGACYUSERGROUP@LEGACYUSERS.COM [12]  rpubge...@cox.net
[13]>

 

- Original Message -
From: "Legacy User Group" 
To:"Legacy User Group" 
Cc:
Sent:Sun, 21 Jun 2020 16:06:24 +
Subject:Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

 Thanks for sharing that trick Jenny! 

Monique A. Riley, AG® 

-
FROM: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of Jenny M Benson 
SENT: Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:41:29 AM
TO: Legacy User Group 
SUBJECT: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster     I thought I'd
mention a little tip which I reminded myself about 
 recently:  it might be useful to a few people.

 I was working on a project which involved adding a lot of new people
and 
 new information to my database but restricted to about 4 or 5
different 
 Sources.  As my Master Source List is a a few hundred items long, it

 takes quite while to find the one I want each time,

 What I do under these circumstances is to open the Master Source List

 and Tag those 4 or 5 different Master Sources and then select Show
Only 
 Tagged Sources.  If I do then need to select a different Source it
only 
 takes a moment to untick the Tagged box, select the Source I want and

 then go back to the limited list.

 Of course, I also the Source Clipboard as much as possible.  For 
 example, if I am adding a new set of children to a family it might 
 involve Sourcing their Births and their Baptisms.  Firstly I add
each of 
 the children, adding as much information as I know on their
Individual 
 screen.  Then I add the Source for the Birth of the first one and
copy 
 that to the Clipboard, paste it for the next child and amend the
details 
 as necessary, copy and paste to the next and so on.  That I repeat
the 
 process to Source their Baptisms.

 -- 
 Jenny M Benson - http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/ [19]
 Wrexham, UK

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

[calawson]

 

- Original Message -
From: "Legacy User Group" 
To:"Legacy User Group" 
Cc:
Sent:Wed, 24 Jun 2020 00:01:08 -0700
Subject:Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

Since you called me an imbecil (I sent one of the emails you
complained about) let me ask you what you would call a person who
signs on to a list to get emails, then complains when those emails
arrive?
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 9:05 PM Jennie Matheson  wrote:
Because you subscribed to the list!  And there is no need to be rude
or swear!
You have received messages before advising you how to unsubscribe -
but once more:
 TO MANAGE YOUR SUBSCRIPTION AND UNSUBSCRIBE
HTTP://LEGACYUSERS.COM/MAILMAN/LISTINFO/LEGACYUSERGROUP_LEGACYUSERS.COM
[2] 
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:10 PM  wrote:
 Why do these Imbeciles keep sending me this Bullshit  
 

LEGACYUSERGROUP@LEGACYUSERS.COM
[4]>  scjo...@optusnet.com.au [5]   

LEGACYUSERGROUP@LEGACYUSERS.COM
[6]>  scjo...@optusnet.com.au [7]

juicebo...@gmail.com [8]ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
[9]

genea...@gmail.com [10]

LEGACYUSERGROUP@LEGACYUSERS.COM [12]  rpubge...@cox.net
[13]>

 

- Original Message -
From: "Legacy User Group" 
To:"Legacy User Group" 
Cc:
Sent:Sun, 21 Jun 2020 16:06:24 +
Subject:Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

 Thanks for sharing that trick Jenny! 

Monique A. Riley, AG® 

-
FROM: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of Jenny M Benson 
SENT: Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:41:29 AM
TO: Legacy User Group 
SUBJECT: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster     I thought I'd
mention a little tip which I reminded myself about 
 recently:  it might be useful to a few people.

 I was working on a project which involved adding a lot of new people
and 
 new information to my database but restricted to about 4 or 5
different 
 Sources.  As my Master Source List is a a few hundred items long, it

 takes quite while to find the one I want each time,

 What I do under these circumstances is to open the Master Source List

 and Tag those 4 or 5 different Master Sources and then select Show
Only 
 Tagged Sources.  If I do then need to select a different Source it
only 
 takes a moment to untick the Tagged box, select the Source I want and

 then go back to the limited list.

 Of course, I also the Source Clipboard as much as possible.  For 
 example, if I am adding a new set of children to a family it might 
 involve Sourcing their Births and their Baptisms.  Firstly I add
each of 
 the children, adding as much information as I know on their
Individual 
 screen.  Then I add the Source for the Birth of the first one and
copy 
 that to the Clipboard, paste it for the next child and amend the
details 
 as necessary, copy and paste to the next and so on.  That I repeat
the 
 process to Source their Baptisms.

 -- 
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 Wrexham, UK

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

[calawson]

 

- Original Message -
From: "Legacy User Group" 
To:"Legacy User Group" 
Cc:
Sent:Wed, 24 Jun 2020 17:43:27 +1000
Subject:Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

Well said Bruce!!

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:00 PM Bruce Jones  wrote:
Since you called me an imbecil (I sent one of the emails you
complained about) let me ask you what you would call a person who
signs on to a list to get emails, then complains when those emails
arrive?
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 9:05 PM Jennie Matheson  wrote:
Because you subscribed to the list!  And there is no need to be rude
or swear!
You have received messages before advising you how to unsubscribe -
but once more:
 TO MANAGE YOUR SUBSCRIPTION AND UNSUBSCRIBE
HTTP://LEGACYUSERS.COM/MAILMAN/LISTINFO/LEGACYUSERGROUP_LEGACYUSERS.COM
[3] 
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:10 PM  wrote:
 Why do these Imbeciles keep sending me this Bullshit  
 

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- Original Message -
From: "Legacy User Group" 
To:"Legacy User Group" 
Cc:
Sent:Sun, 21 Jun 2020 16:06:24 +
Subject:Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

 Thanks for sharing that trick Jenny! 

Monique A. Riley, AG® 

-
FROM: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of Jenny M Benson 
SENT: Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:41:29 AM
TO: Legacy User Group 
SUBJECT: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster     I thought I'd
mention a little tip which I reminded myself about 
 recently:  it might be useful to a few people.

 I was working on a project which involved adding a lot of new people
and 
 new information to my database but restricted to about 4 or 5
different 
 Sources.  As my Master Source List is a a few hundred items long, it

 takes quite while to find the one I want each time,

 What I do under these circumstances is to open the Master Source List

 and Tag those 4 or 5 different Master Sources and then select Show
Only 
 Tagged Sources.  If I do then need to select a different Source it
only 
 takes a moment to untick the Tagged box, select the Source I want and

 then go back to the limited list.

 Of course, I also the Source Clipboard as much as possible.  For 
 example, if I am adding a new set of children to a family it might 
 involve Sourcing their Births and their Baptisms.  Firstly I add
each of 
 the children, adding as much information as I know on their
Individual 
 screen.  Then I add the Source for the Birth of the first one and
copy 
 that to the Clipboard, paste it for the next child and amend the
details 
 as necessary, copy and paste to the next and so on.  That I repeat
the 
 process to Source their Baptisms.

 -- 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

[Jennie Matheson]

Well said Bruce!!

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:00 PM Bruce Jones  wrote:

> Since you called me an imbecil (I sent one of the emails you complained
> about) let me ask you what you would call a person who signs on to a list
> to get emails, then complains when those emails arrive?
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 9:05 PM Jennie Matheson 
> wrote:
>
>> Because you subscribed to the list!  And there is no need to be rude or
>> swear!
>>
>> You have received messages before advising you how to unsubscribe - but
>> once more:
>>
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>>
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:10 PM  wrote:
>>
>>>  Why do these Imbeciles keep sending me this Bullshit
>>>
>>>
>>> legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>  scjo...@optusnet.com.au
>>>
>>> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com>  scjo...@optusnet.com.au
>>>
>>> juicebo...@gmail.comge...@cedarbank.me.uk
>>>
>>> genea...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com  rpubge...@cox.net>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From:
>>> "Legacy User Group" 
>>>
>>> To:
>>> "Legacy User Group" 
>>> Cc:
>>>
>>> Sent:
>>> Sun, 21 Jun 2020 16:06:24 +
>>> Subject:
>>> Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing that trick Jenny!
>>>
>>> Monique A. Riley, AG®
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  on
>>> behalf of Jenny M Benson 
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:41:29 AM
>>> *To:* Legacy User Group 
>>> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster
>>>
>>> I thought I'd mention a little tip which I reminded myself about
>>> recently:  it might be useful to a few people.
>>>
>>> I was working on a project which involved adding a lot of new people and
>>> new information to my database but restricted to about 4 or 5 different
>>> Sources.  As my Master Source List is a a few hundred items long, it
>>> takes quite while to find the one I want each time,
>>>
>>> What I do under these circumstances is to open the Master Source List
>>> and Tag those 4 or 5 different Master Sources and then select Show Only
>>> Tagged Sources.  If I do then need to select a different Source it only
>>> takes a moment to untick the Tagged box, select the Source I want and
>>> then go back to the limited list.
>>>
>>> Of course, I also the Source Clipboard as much as possible.  For
>>> example, if I am adding a new set of children to a family it might
>>> involve Sourcing their Births and their Baptisms.  Firstly I add each of
>>> the children, adding as much information as I know on their Individual
>>> screen.  Then I add the Source for the Birth of the first one and copy
>>> that to the Clipboard, paste it for the next child and amend the details
>>> as necessary, copy and paste to the next and so on.  That I repeat the
>>> process to Source their Baptisms.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jenny M Benson - http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/
>>> Wrexham, UK
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

[Bruce Jones]

Since you called me an imbecil (I sent one of the emails you complained
about) let me ask you what you would call a person who signs on to a list
to get emails, then complains when those emails arrive?

On Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 9:05 PM Jennie Matheson  wrote:

> Because you subscribed to the list!  And there is no need to be rude or
> swear!
>
> You have received messages before advising you how to unsubscribe - but
> once more:
>
> *To manage your subscription and unsubscribe
> http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com
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>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:10 PM  wrote:
>
>>  Why do these Imbeciles keep sending me this Bullshit
>>
>>
>> legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>  scjo...@optusnet.com.au
>>
>> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com>  scjo...@optusnet.com.au
>>
>> juicebo...@gmail.comge...@cedarbank.me.uk
>>
>> genea...@gmail.com
>>
>> legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com  rpubge...@cox.net>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -----
>> From:
>> "Legacy User Group" 
>>
>> To:
>> "Legacy User Group" 
>> Cc:
>>
>> Sent:
>> Sun, 21 Jun 2020 16:06:24 +
>> Subject:
>> Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster
>>
>>
>> Thanks for sharing that trick Jenny!
>>
>> Monique A. Riley, AG®
>>
>> --
>> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  on
>> behalf of Jenny M Benson 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:41:29 AM
>> *To:* Legacy User Group 
>> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster
>>
>> I thought I'd mention a little tip which I reminded myself about
>> recently:  it might be useful to a few people.
>>
>> I was working on a project which involved adding a lot of new people and
>> new information to my database but restricted to about 4 or 5 different
>> Sources.  As my Master Source List is a a few hundred items long, it
>> takes quite while to find the one I want each time,
>>
>> What I do under these circumstances is to open the Master Source List
>> and Tag those 4 or 5 different Master Sources and then select Show Only
>> Tagged Sources.  If I do then need to select a different Source it only
>> takes a moment to untick the Tagged box, select the Source I want and
>> then go back to the limited list.
>>
>> Of course, I also the Source Clipboard as much as possible.  For
>> example, if I am adding a new set of children to a family it might
>> involve Sourcing their Births and their Baptisms.  Firstly I add each of
>> the children, adding as much information as I know on their Individual
>> screen.  Then I add the Source for the Birth of the first one and copy
>> that to the Clipboard, paste it for the next child and amend the details
>> as necessary, copy and paste to the next and so on.  That I repeat the
>> process to Source their Baptisms.
>>
>> --
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>> Wrexham, UK
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

[Jennie Matheson]

Because you subscribed to the list!  And there is no need to be rude or
swear!

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On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:10 PM  wrote:

>  Why do these Imbeciles keep sending me this Bullshit
>
>
> legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>  scjo...@optusnet.com.au
>
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com>  scjo...@optusnet.com.au
>
> juicebo...@gmail.comge...@cedarbank.me.uk
>
> genea...@gmail.com
>
> legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com  rpubge...@cox.net>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From:
> "Legacy User Group" 
>
> To:
> "Legacy User Group" 
> Cc:
>
> Sent:
> Sun, 21 Jun 2020 16:06:24 +
> Subject:
> Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster
>
>
> Thanks for sharing that trick Jenny!
>
> Monique A. Riley, AG®
>
> --
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  on
> behalf of Jenny M Benson 
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:41:29 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster
>
> I thought I'd mention a little tip which I reminded myself about
> recently:  it might be useful to a few people.
>
> I was working on a project which involved adding a lot of new people and
> new information to my database but restricted to about 4 or 5 different
> Sources.  As my Master Source List is a a few hundred items long, it
> takes quite while to find the one I want each time,
>
> What I do under these circumstances is to open the Master Source List
> and Tag those 4 or 5 different Master Sources and then select Show Only
> Tagged Sources.  If I do then need to select a different Source it only
> takes a moment to untick the Tagged box, select the Source I want and
> then go back to the limited list.
>
> Of course, I also the Source Clipboard as much as possible.  For
> example, if I am adding a new set of children to a family it might
> involve Sourcing their Births and their Baptisms.  Firstly I add each of
> the children, adding as much information as I know on their Individual
> screen.  Then I add the Source for the Birth of the first one and copy
> that to the Clipboard, paste it for the next child and amend the details
> as necessary, copy and paste to the next and so on.  That I repeat the
> process to Source their Baptisms.
>
> --
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> Wrexham, UK
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

[calawson]

 Why do these Imbeciles keep sending me this Bullshit  
 

LEGACYUSERGROUP@LEGACYUSERS.COM
[1]>  scjo...@optusnet.com.au [2]   

LEGACYUSERGROUP@LEGACYUSERS.COM
[3]>  scjo...@optusnet.com.au

juicebo...@gmail.com [4]ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
[5]

genea...@gmail.com [6]

LEGACYUSERGROUP@LEGACYUSERS.COM [7]  rpubge...@cox.net>

 
David Cripps  I thought I'd mention a little tip which I reminded
myself about
 > recently:  it might be useful to a few people.
 > 
 > I was working on a project which involved adding a lot of new
people and
 > new information to my database but restricted to about 4 or 5
different
 > Sources.  As my Master Source List is a a few hundred items long,
it
 > takes quite while to find the one I want each time,

 Thanks Jenny, you're a genius, I've never used that feature, so
thanks
 for the heads-up.

 Cheers & Thanks
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

[calawson]

 Why do these Imbeciles keep sending me this Bullshit  
 

LEGACYUSERGROUP@LEGACYUSERS.COM
[1]>  scjo...@optusnet.com.au [2]   

LEGACYUSERGROUP@LEGACYUSERS.COM
[3]>  scjo...@optusnet.com.au

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[5]

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LEGACYUSERGROUP@LEGACYUSERS.COM [7]  rpubge...@cox.net>

 

- Original Message -
From: "Legacy User Group" 
To:"Legacy User Group" 
Cc:
Sent:Sun, 21 Jun 2020 16:06:24 +
Subject:Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

 Thanks for sharing that trick Jenny! 

Monique A. Riley, AG® 

-
FROM: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of Jenny M Benson 
SENT: Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:41:29 AM
TO: Legacy User Group 
SUBJECT: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster     I thought I'd
mention a little tip which I reminded myself about 
 recently:  it might be useful to a few people.

 I was working on a project which involved adding a lot of new people
and 
 new information to my database but restricted to about 4 or 5
different 
 Sources.  As my Master Source List is a a few hundred items long, it

 takes quite while to find the one I want each time,

 What I do under these circumstances is to open the Master Source List

 and Tag those 4 or 5 different Master Sources and then select Show
Only 
 Tagged Sources.  If I do then need to select a different Source it
only 
 takes a moment to untick the Tagged box, select the Source I want and

 then go back to the limited list.

 Of course, I also the Source Clipboard as much as possible.  For 
 example, if I am adding a new set of children to a family it might 
 involve Sourcing their Births and their Baptisms.  Firstly I add
each of 
 the children, adding as much information as I know on their
Individual 
 screen.  Then I add the Source for the Birth of the first one and
copy 
 that to the Clipboard, paste it for the next child and amend the
details 
 as necessary, copy and paste to the next and so on.  That I repeat
the 
 process to Source their Baptisms.

 -- 
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 Wrexham, UK

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

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FROM: "Monique Riley" 

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TO: "Legacy User Group" 

  

FROM: elblankens...@gmail.com

TO: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com

FROM: "Brian Kelly" 

TO: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com

 From: "Monique Riley" 

TO: "Legacy User Group" 

- Original Message -
From: "Legacy User Group" 
To:
Cc:
Sent:Mon, 22 Jun 2020 10:07:17 +1000
Subject:Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

 On 22-Jun-20 1:41 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
 > I thought I'd mention a little tip which I reminded myself about
 > recently:  it might be useful to a few people.
 > 
 > I was working on a project which involved adding a lot of new
people and
 > new information to my database but restricted to about 4 or 5
different
 > Sources.  As my Master Source List is a a few hundred items long,
it
 > takes quite while to find the one I want each time,

 Thanks Jenny, you're a genius, I've never used that feature, so
thanks
 for the heads-up.

 Cheers & Thanks
 David

 -- 
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 Hobart, Tasmania
 Gedmatch: EH6082465
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

[David Cripps]

On 22-Jun-20 1:41 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
> I thought I'd mention a little tip which I reminded myself about
> recently:  it might be useful to a few people.
> 
> I was working on a project which involved adding a lot of new people and
> new information to my database but restricted to about 4 or 5 different
> Sources.  As my Master Source List is a a few hundred items long, it
> takes quite while to find the one I want each time,

Thanks Jenny, you're a genius, I've never used that feature, so thanks
for the heads-up.


Cheers & Thanks
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

[Monique Riley]

Thanks for sharing that trick Jenny!

Monique A. Riley, AG®


From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Jenny M Benson 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:41:29 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a little faster

I thought I'd mention a little tip which I reminded myself about
recently:  it might be useful to a few people.

I was working on a project which involved adding a lot of new people and
new information to my database but restricted to about 4 or 5 different
Sources.  As my Master Source List is a a few hundred items long, it
takes quite while to find the one I want each time,

What I do under these circumstances is to open the Master Source List
and Tag those 4 or 5 different Master Sources and then select Show Only
Tagged Sources.  If I do then need to select a different Source it only
takes a moment to untick the Tagged box, select the Source I want and
then go back to the limited list.

Of course, I also the Source Clipboard as much as possible.  For
example, if I am adding a new set of children to a family it might
involve Sourcing their Births and their Baptisms.  Firstly I add each of
the children, adding as much information as I know on their Individual
screen.  Then I add the Source for the Birth of the first one and copy
that to the Clipboard, paste it for the next child and amend the details
as necessary, copy and paste to the next and so on.  That I repeat the
process to Source their Baptisms.

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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

[Shirley Crampton]

When I add a document that proves the parent-child relationship I add that
to the child's screen and use the document as the source.

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 4:24 PM, BARTON LEWIS 
wrote:

> Good to know, thanks.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 04:08 PM, Brian Kelly wrote:
>
> If you open a person's assigned sources screen you will see that you can
>> assign a source to the Father - Child and Mother Child relationships.
>>
>> I personally do not do that but anyone who intends to apply to one of the
>> associations like Daughters or Sons of the American Revolution which
>> require proof of your descent from a revolutionary war participant needs to
>> assign sources to those fields because those societies are very interested
>> in what documents were used to confirm the descent.
>>
>> Brian Kelly
>>
>> On 21-Apr-17 1:12 PM, BARTON LEWIS wrote:
>>
>>> Diane,
>>> I see your point now - add it to all 3 name fields (the child and both
>>> parents).  I would absolutely do that if it were the only or one of the
>>> only sources for the relationship, and I understand the reason for doing
>>> it regardless.  Here is my dilemma:  I have transcribed the sketch which
>>> is about 4 paragraphs, and I am reluctant to add the source without the
>>> transcript, and I am also reluctant to add the source for every
>>> relationship named (the many siblings and aunts and uncles of the
>>> sketch's subject).  So I have to decide how to err - on the side of
>>> leaving out a good (but not the only) source for the relationships or
>>> having a lot of information duplicated and taking up a lot of printed
>>> space in reports, etc.
>>> Barton
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 01:00 PM, Diane wrote:
>>>
>>> Barton;
>>> It is probably an unnecessary step   to add the source to the father
>>> relationship and mother relationship fields, but it is something I do
>>> routinely.
>>>
>>> Diane
>>>
>>>
>>> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com]
>>> On Behalf Of BARTON LEWIS
>>> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 9:27 AM
>>> To: Legacy User Group Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question
>>>
>>> hi Diane, thanks for your reply.  By adding the book as a source in the
>>> name field, I assume that's what I would be doing (using the book as a
>>> source for those relationships).
>>> Barton
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Diane wrote:
>>> Barton;
>>>
>>> You could also use the book as a source for child/parent relationships.
>>>
>>> Diane
>>>
>>>
>>> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com
>>>  ] On Behalf Of Barton
>>> Lewis
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 7:45 PM
>>> To: 'Legacy User Group'
>>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

[BARTON LEWIS]

Good to know, thanks.


On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 04:08 PM, Brian Kelly wrote:

If you open a person's assigned sources screen you will see that you 
can assign a source to the Father - Child and Mother Child 
relationships.


I personally do not do that but anyone who intends to apply to one of 
the associations like Daughters or Sons of the American Revolution 
which require proof of your descent from a revolutionary war 
participant needs to assign sources to those fields because those 
societies are very interested in what documents were used to confirm 
the descent.


Brian Kelly

On 21-Apr-17 1:12 PM, BARTON LEWIS wrote:

Diane,
I see your point now - add it to all 3 name fields (the child and 
both
parents).  I would absolutely do that if it were the only or one of 
the
only sources for the relationship, and I understand the reason for 
doing
it regardless.  Here is my dilemma:  I have transcribed the sketch 
which
is about 4 paragraphs, and I am reluctant to add the source without 
the

transcript, and I am also reluctant to add the source for every
relationship named (the many siblings and aunts and uncles of the
sketch's subject).  So I have to decide how to err - on the side of
leaving out a good (but not the only) source for the relationships or
having a lot of information duplicated and taking up a lot of printed
space in reports, etc.
Barton


On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 01:00 PM, Diane wrote:

Barton;
It is probably an unnecessary step   to add the source to the father
relationship and mother relationship fields, but it is something I do
routinely.

Diane


From: LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com]

On Behalf Of BARTON LEWIS
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 9:27 AM
To: Legacy User Group Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

hi Diane, thanks for your reply.  By adding the book as a source in 
the
name field, I assume that's what I would be doing (using the book as 
a

source for those relationships).
Barton


On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Diane wrote:
Barton;

You could also use the book as a source for child/parent 
relationships.


Diane


From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com
 ] On Behalf Of Barton
Lewis
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 7:45 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'


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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

[Brian Kelly]

If you open a person's assigned sources screen you will see that you can 
assign a source to the Father - Child and Mother Child relationships.


I personally do not do that but anyone who intends to apply to one of 
the associations like Daughters or Sons of the American Revolution which 
require proof of your descent from a revolutionary war participant needs 
to assign sources to those fields because those societies are very 
interested in what documents were used to confirm the descent.


Brian Kelly

On 21-Apr-17 1:12 PM, BARTON LEWIS wrote:

Diane,
I see your point now - add it to all 3 name fields (the child and both
parents).  I would absolutely do that if it were the only or one of the
only sources for the relationship, and I understand the reason for doing
it regardless.  Here is my dilemma:  I have transcribed the sketch which
is about 4 paragraphs, and I am reluctant to add the source without the
transcript, and I am also reluctant to add the source for every
relationship named (the many siblings and aunts and uncles of the
sketch's subject).  So I have to decide how to err - on the side of
leaving out a good (but not the only) source for the relationships or
having a lot of information duplicated and taking up a lot of printed
space in reports, etc.
Barton


On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 01:00 PM, Diane wrote:

Barton;
It is probably an unnecessary step   to add the source to the father
relationship and mother relationship fields, but it is something I do
routinely.

Diane


From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com]
On Behalf Of BARTON LEWIS
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 9:27 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

hi Diane, thanks for your reply.  By adding the book as a source in the
name field, I assume that's what I would be doing (using the book as a
source for those relationships).
Barton


On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Diane wrote:
Barton;

You could also use the book as a source for child/parent relationships.

Diane


From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com
<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> ] On Behalf Of Barton
Lewis
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 7:45 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: [LegacyUG] sourcing question


As a little diversion to all the questions about Legacy 9, I found a
biographical sketch of my ancestor’s brother in a Texas history book
published in 1893.  It contains a trove of information about my
ancestor’s family and that of his parents, presumably from the subject
who was 44 years old at the time.  The names of his siblings and aunts
and uncles and all their spouses are included.  As a source for these
names, I’m wondering where to best enter them; I usually put census
entries into the birth field, since date and place of birth are always
identified (usually).  Since date and place are not included in the
sketch, should the source be added to the person’s name?  I usually
don’t input sources into the name field but this seems to make the best
sense.  Any thought would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Barton






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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

[BARTON LEWIS]

Diane,
I see your point now - add it to all 3 name fields (the child and both 
parents).  I would absolutely do that if it were the only or one of the 
only sources for the relationship, and I understand the reason for doing 
it regardless.  Here is my dilemma:  I have transcribed the sketch which 
is about 4 paragraphs, and I am reluctant to add the source without the 
transcript, and I am also reluctant to add the source for every 
relationship named (the many siblings and aunts and uncles of the 
sketch's subject).  So I have to decide how to err - on the side of 
leaving out a good (but not the only) source for the relationships or 
having a lot of information duplicated and taking up a lot of printed 
space in reports, etc.

Barton


On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 01:00 PM, Diane wrote:

Barton;
It is probably an unnecessary step   to add the source to the father 
relationship and mother relationship fields, but it is something I do 
routinely.

 
Diane
 
 
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] 
On Behalf Of BARTON LEWIS

Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 9:27 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question
 
hi Diane, thanks for your reply.  By adding the book as a source in the 
name field, I assume that's what I would be doing (using the book as a 
source for those relationships).

Barton


On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Diane wrote:
Barton;
 
You could also use the book as a source for child/parent relationships.
 
Diane
 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com 
<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> ] On Behalf Of Barton 
Lewis

Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 7:45 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >

Subject: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

 
As a little diversion to all the questions about Legacy 9, I found a 
biographical sketch of my ancestor’s brother in a Texas history book 
published in 1893.  It contains a trove of information about my 
ancestor’s family and that of his parents, presumably from the subject 
who was 44 years old at the time.  The names of his siblings and aunts 
and uncles and all their spouses are included.  As a source for these 
names, I’m wondering where to best enter them; I usually put census 
entries into the birth field, since date and place of birth are always 
identified (usually).  Since date and place are not included in the 
sketch, should the source be added to the person’s name?  I usually 
don’t input sources into the name field but this seems to make the best 
sense.  Any thought would be appreciated.

 
Thanks,
 
Barton

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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

[Diane]

Barton;

It is probably an unnecessary step 😊  to add the source to the father 
relationship and mother relationship fields, but it is something I do routinely.

 

Diane

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of BARTON LEWIS
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 9:27 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

 

hi Diane, thanks for your reply.  By adding the book as a source in the name 
field, I assume that's what I would be doing (using the book as a source for 
those relationships).

Barton




On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Diane wrote:

Barton;

 

You could also use the book as a source for child/parent relationships.

 

Diane

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Barton Lewis
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 7:45 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

 

As a little diversion to all the questions about Legacy 9, I found a 
biographical sketch of my ancestor’s brother in a Texas history book published 
in 1893.  It contains a trove of information about my ancestor’s family and 
that of his parents, presumably from the subject who was 44 years old at the 
time.  The names of his siblings and aunts and uncles and all their spouses are 
included.  As a source for these names, I’m wondering where to best enter them; 
I usually put census entries into the birth field, since date and place of 
birth are always identified (usually).  Since date and place are not included 
in the sketch, should the source be added to the person’s name?  I usually 
don’t input sources into the name field but this seems to make the best sense.  
Any thought would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Barton


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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

[BARTON LEWIS]

hi Diane, thanks for your reply.  By adding the book as a source in the 
name field, I assume that's what I would be doing (using the book as a 
source for those relationships).

Barton


On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Diane wrote:

Barton;
 
You could also use the book as a source for child/parent relationships.
 
Diane
 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Barton Lewis

Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 7:45 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

 
As a little diversion to all the questions about Legacy 9, I found a 
biographical sketch of my ancestor’s brother in a Texas history book 
published in 1893.  It contains a trove of information about my 
ancestor’s family and that of his parents, presumably from the subject 
who was 44 years old at the time.  The names of his siblings and aunts 
and uncles and all their spouses are included.  As a source for these 
names, I’m wondering where to best enter them; I usually put census 
entries into the birth field, since date and place of birth are always 
identified (usually).  Since date and place are not included in the 
sketch, should the source be added to the person’s name?  I usually 
don’t input sources into the name field but this seems to make the best 
sense.  Any thought would be appreciated.

 
Thanks,
 
Barton
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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

[Diane]

Barton;

 

You could also use the book as a source for child/parent relationships.

 

Diane

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Barton Lewis
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 7:45 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

 

As a little diversion to all the questions about Legacy 9, I found a
biographical sketch of my ancestor's brother in a Texas history book
published in 1893.  It contains a trove of information about my ancestor's
family and that of his parents, presumably from the subject who was 44 years
old at the time.  The names of his siblings and aunts and uncles and all
their spouses are included.  As a source for these names, I'm wondering
where to best enter them; I usually put census entries into the birth field,
since date and place of birth are always identified (usually).  Since date
and place are not included in the sketch, should the source be added to the
person's name?  I usually don't input sources into the name field but this
seems to make the best sense.  Any thought would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Barton

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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

[BARTON LEWIS]

This sounds like sound advice.  Thank you.  I have not upgraded to 
Legacy 9 yet - a bit nervous as I some have described problems but the 
consensus seems to be that it's fine.  So I'll go ahead and do it and 
check out the Stories feature. 


Barton


On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 08:17 AM, Brian Kelly wrote:


I see two things here:

1. The article/excerpt itself seems like it was tailor-made for the 
new Stories feature in Legacy 9.0. I would enter the entire sketch and 
use the Texas history book as the source. You can then share that 
story with all the other family members mentioned if you wish.


2. If the article mentions new people (or new information about 
existing ones) then I would enter/add the data and use the article as 
the source for the data. For example, if the article has a date that 
you were missing then it is the source for that new date. If it 
mentions a new person then it is the source for all the data you enter 
from that article about that person.


Brian Kelly

On 20-Apr-17 10:44 PM, Barton Lewis wrote:

As a little diversion to all the questions about Legacy 9, I found a
biographical sketch of my ancestor’s brother in a Texas history book
published in 1893.  It contains a trove of information about my
ancestor’s family and that of his parents, presumably from the 
subject
who was 44 years old at the time.  The names of his siblings and 
aunts

and uncles and all their spouses are included.  As a source for these
names, I’m wondering where to best enter them; I usually put census
entries into the birth field, since date and place of birth are 
always

identified (usually).  Since date and place are not included in the
sketch, should the source be added to the person’s name?  I usually
don’t input sources into the name field but this seems to make the 
best

sense.  Any thought would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Barton



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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

[BARTON LEWIS]

Thanks, Cathy.  Both you and Jenny have asked me why I don't source 
names.  I should clarify.  The censuses form the foundation for 
identifying the composition of families (for me), and provide one of the 
most important vitals - a person's place and date of birth.  I enter the 
census data in the birth field for an individual and that record 
contains (for most censuses after 1870) their relationship to HOH.  I 
feel that it would be duplicative to add that same record to the name 
field.  It would also significantly add to the notes at the end of a 
report, for example, and since I transcribe each and every census entry 
and include it with my citation, I prefer not to have those entries 
appearing multiple times. 
If other data in addition to the name is being given then I tend to add 
the source for that data - and not additionally to the name.  However, 
when a record proves a name and there is no other confirmatory evidence 
for it, I'll add that record to the name field.  E.g. if a deceased 
person's mother is listed in their death certificate, and that's the 
only source for her maiden name, I'll enter that source in the name 
field for the mother.  (Death certificates, of course, present their own 
problems.)  A deed which states someone is giving land to "my beloved 
son" would be a source for the person's name (name field).  I may or may 
not add that if other sources (e.g. censuses) existed for that person 
which identified their relationship to their parent, but I would 
definitely add it if there were no other confirmatory evidence of their 
relationship.  I welcome your thoughts on this approach.

Barton

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:27 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:


You don't source Names?

How do you know where you found the name or the name variants?



Yes if it only has the name, then you add the source to the name.

If it had name and birth date, I'd add it to both name and birth date.



The only exceptions for me is if I have a number of better sources for 
the Name already.




Cathy



Barton Lewis wrote:



As a little diversion to all the questions about Legacy 9, I found a

biographical sketch of my ancestor’s brother in a Texas history book

published in 1893. It contains a trove of information about my

ancestor’s family and that of his parents, presumably from the subject

who was 44 years old at the time. The names of his siblings and aunts

and uncles and all their spouses are included. As a source for these

names, I’m wondering where to
best enter them; I usually put census

entries into the birth field, since date and place of birth are always

identified (usually). Since date and place are not included in the

sketch, should the source be added to the person’s name? I usually

don’t input sources into the name field but this seems to make the

best sense. Any thought would be appreciated.



Thanks,



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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

[Margaret Gagliardi]

Ever since I began using Legacy, I have transcribed everything I found on
each individual under the General tab.  Census, Deeds, Wills, Birth & Death
Records, obits, letters, etc. and the last item I put is the Find-a-Grave
information.  I copy and paste into the General Tab when I can.  In some
cases, when I print out a family group sheet it may be 20-30 pages long,
all telling about the life of that husband and wife.  I can refer back to
it at any time and see the full information exactly as I found it.  I wish
we would have had that story tab a long time ago, so unless there is,
something very special about it, I don't plan to look at my almost 20,000
folks and move what is in my General Tab to the Story Tab.  Can anyone tell
me what the difference would be and how it would PDF or print out to
include all my work?
Thanks Margaret

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 8:17 AM, Brian Kelly  wrote:

> I see two things here:
>
> 1. The article/excerpt itself seems like it was tailor-made for the new
> Stories feature in Legacy 9.0. I would enter the entire sketch and use the
> Texas history book as the source. You can then share that story with all
> the other family members mentioned if you wish.
>
> 2. If the article mentions new people (or new information about existing
> ones) then I would enter/add the data and use the article as the source for
> the data. For example, if the article has a date that you were missing then
> it is the source for that new date. If it mentions a new person then it is
> the source for all the data you enter from that article about that person.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
>
> On 20-Apr-17 10:44 PM, Barton Lewis wrote:
>
>> As a little diversion to all the questions about Legacy 9, I found a
>> biographical sketch of my ancestor’s brother in a Texas history book
>> published in 1893.  It contains a trove of information about my
>> ancestor’s family and that of his parents, presumably from the subject
>> who was 44 years old at the time.  The names of his siblings and aunts
>> and uncles and all their spouses are included.  As a source for these
>> names, I’m wondering where to best enter them; I usually put census
>> entries into the birth field, since date and place of birth are always
>> identified (usually).  Since date and place are not included in the
>> sketch, should the source be added to the person’s name?  I usually
>> don’t input sources into the name field but this seems to make the best
>> sense.  Any thought would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Barton
>>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

[Brian Kelly]

I see two things here:

1. The article/excerpt itself seems like it was tailor-made for the new 
Stories feature in Legacy 9.0. I would enter the entire sketch and use 
the Texas history book as the source. You can then share that story with 
all the other family members mentioned if you wish.


2. If the article mentions new people (or new information about existing 
ones) then I would enter/add the data and use the article as the source 
for the data. For example, if the article has a date that you were 
missing then it is the source for that new date. If it mentions a new 
person then it is the source for all the data you enter from that 
article about that person.


Brian Kelly

On 20-Apr-17 10:44 PM, Barton Lewis wrote:

As a little diversion to all the questions about Legacy 9, I found a
biographical sketch of my ancestor’s brother in a Texas history book
published in 1893.  It contains a trove of information about my
ancestor’s family and that of his parents, presumably from the subject
who was 44 years old at the time.  The names of his siblings and aunts
and uncles and all their spouses are included.  As a source for these
names, I’m wondering where to best enter them; I usually put census
entries into the birth field, since date and place of birth are always
identified (usually).  Since date and place are not included in the
sketch, should the source be added to the person’s name?  I usually
don’t input sources into the name field but this seems to make the best
sense.  Any thought would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Barton



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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

[Cathy Pinner]

You don't source Names?
How do you know where you found the name or the name variants?

Yes if it only has the name, then you add the source to the name.
If it had name and birth date, I'd add it to both name and birth date.

The only exceptions for me is if I have a number of better sources for 
the Name already.


Cathy

Barton Lewis wrote:


As a little diversion to all the questions about Legacy 9, I found a
biographical sketch of my ancestor’s brother in a Texas history book
published in 1893. It contains a trove of information about my
ancestor’s family and that of his parents, presumably from the subject
who was 44 years old at the time. The names of his siblings and aunts
and uncles and all their spouses are included. As a source for these
names, I’m wondering where to best enter them; I usually put census
entries into the birth field, since date and place of birth are always
identified (usually). Since date and place are not included in the
sketch, should the source be added to the person’s name? I usually
don’t input sources into the name field but this seems to make the
best sense. Any thought would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Barton
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing

[Cathy Pinner]

Elizabeth,

As you go through your file, make sure you tag those people you have 
completed checking and/or if you go through Master Source by Master 
Source, tag the source when it's done.


I'm slowly checking very, very old sources from when I didn't understand 
the source and also sources where only transcriptions were available at 
the time but now I can see the originals. I use the Show List and tag 
the people using the source. If when I finish updating this particular 
source, all their other sources are already OK, I tag them on tag 9. Not 
enough people tagged on 9 yet ;)


Cathy

Elizabeth Lindsay wrote:


Thanks, Cathy.

The sad thing is that when I started family history years ago, there
were no computers, and then as things progressed, the ability to do
more and more with greater degrees of accuracy and references
developed amazingly. But… as I transitioned through a couple of
different programs some of the data transfer and referencing did not
happen as it should so I now realize that I will have to set aside an
enormous amount of time to go through and put it to rights.

Elizabeth

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*Sent:* Wednesday, 28 September 2016 10:49 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10? and
Clipboard question

Elizabeth,
I'm one of them.
Say I'm entering a Source that is an Index rather than a transcription
- like South Australian Birth, Death or Marriage Indexes on FindMyPast.

I find the entry on FindMyPast and I copy the whole entry and then
names and dates and locations that I require either for data entry or
to complete my Source.
Then I start entering the data in Legacy. I set up the Source
Clipboard putting the whole entry in the Source Detail text and making
up the Source Detail with a combination of some of what I've copied
and boiler text I have previously saved in the M8 clipboard which
shows in a different column.
Then I enter the data again just pasting the relevant dates and names
from the M8 clipboard and source it all with the Source Clipboard that
I've set up.
So I only have to look at my source on FindMyPast once rather than go
to and fro - and t he typing I need to do on data entry is minimal to
none.
The M8 clipboard sits where you put it and on top of other windows so
is easily accessible - or when you're not using it you can minimise it
to Taskbar or System Tray.

Cathy

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing

[Elizabeth Lindsay]

Thanks, Cathy.

The sad thing is that when I started family history years ago, there were no 
computers, and then as things progressed, the ability to do more and more with 
greater degrees of accuracy and references developed amazingly. But… as I 
transitioned through a couple of different programs some of the data transfer 
and referencing did not happen as it should so I now realize that I will have 
to set aside an enormous amount of time to go through and put it to rights.

 

Elizabeth

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2016 10:49 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Incompatibility with Windows 10? and Clipboard question

 

Elizabeth,
I'm one of them.
Say I'm entering a Source that is an Index rather than a transcription - like 
South Australian Birth, Death or Marriage Indexes on FindMyPast.

I find the entry on FindMyPast and I copy the whole entry and then names and 
dates and locations that I require either for data entry or to complete my 
Source.
Then I start entering the data in Legacy. I set up the Source Clipboard putting 
the whole entry in the Source Detail text and making up the Source Detail with 
a combination of some of what I've copied and boiler text I have previously 
saved in the M8 clipboard which shows in a different column.
Then I enter the data again just pasting the relevant dates and names from the 
M8 clipboard and source it all with the Source Clipboard that I've set up.
So I only have to look at my source on FindMyPast once rather than go to and 
fro - and t he typing I need to do on data entry is minimal to none.
The M8 clipboard sits where you put it and on top of other windows so is easily 
accessible - or when you're not using it you can minimise it to Taskbar or 
System Tray.

Cathy




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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing 1939 England Register

[Jenny M Benson]

On 27/04/2016 21:51, Rob Miller wrote:

Using the Source Writer template for the 1939 England Register, one box
is for "Address".

Do you input the complete address (The Croft, Sladebrook Road, Bath C.
B., Somerset, England), or only the postal address (The Croft,
Sladebrook Road)?

I put something between your two examples:  The Croft, Sladebrook Road, 
Bath, Somerset.


I don't bother with the County Borough (or Rural District or whatever it 
happens to be) because I don't think that matters and can be misleading 
and I don't include England in the Address field of the Source Citation 
because I think the County is sufficient, but I do include the country 
when I enter the address in the Location field of the Event.  (For 
absolute clarity I always include the country in an Event Location, 
except when the address is just X Registration District.)



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a name (when you only have AKA's)

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Or Legacy  could create a separate field for day, month, year, town, 
county, state.   Howard Nurse had it that way back when he created the ROOTS 
programs (in the  dark ages). After Visual ROOTS (when the OS changed from DOS 
to 
Windows) he got  out of the business. 
 
This has been suggested to Legacy over the years  but it's never happened.
 
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In a message dated 4/17/2016 10:38:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
hayes...@telkomsa.net writes:

> For  example, I might have one source that tells me the date of birth, 
> and  another that tells me the place of birth. But nothing that gives me 
>  both together. I think if I had a name scenario as you described, I 
>  would use the same  method.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a name (when you only have AKA's)

[Jenny M Benson]

On 18/04/2016 03:15, Wendy Howard wrote:


For example, I might have one source that tells me the date of birth,
and another that tells me the place of birth. But nothing that gives me
both together.


In those cases I write "relates to date of birth only" or "relates to 
place of birth only" in the Source Details Comments field, unless I was 
entering all the text of the Source into the Text field, as I often do.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a name (when you only have AKA's)

[Wendy Howard]

I'm thinking of doing this so I can display *on the screen* (as much as 
in reports) the information I am sure is the most correct. Putting it in 
the Research Notes will not assist with this.


It might be that one day I will find a source that tells me all of the 
parts that I've gleaned bit-by-bit from a variety of sources, and then I 
would replace my assumption/combination, maybe delete the 
assumption/combination altogether (though I've yet to think that 
through, I may choose to keep it as an indication of progress of my 
research through time).


In any case, everything would be sourced as it was recorded, so anyone 
looking at my information would know what came from where. I make great 
use of the "Alt." events in Legacy for recording variations in data, and 
it's all sourced.


Wendy

Steve Hayes wrote on 18/04/2016 14:37:

On 18 Apr 2016 at 14:15, Wendy Howard wrote:


I've been thinking about creating a souce for "assumptions based on
available information - check the alternatives", or something similar.
So that I can enter information in the vital event fields that is
combined from a number of different sources, all of which is recorded in my
database.

For example, I might have one source that tells me the date of birth,
and another that tells me the place of birth. But nothing that gives me
both together. I think if I had a name scenario as you described, I
would use the same method.

Perhaps that is something you need to put in the "Research Notes" -- explain
to yourself (and anyone coming to your research after you) why you came to a
particular conclusion.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a name (when you only have AKA's)

[Steve Hayes]

On 18 Apr 2016 at 14:15, Wendy Howard wrote:

> I've been thinking about creating a souce for "assumptions based on 
> available information - check the alternatives", or something similar.  
> So that I can enter information in the vital event fields that is 
> combined from a number of different sources, all of which is recorded in my
> database.
> 
> For example, I might have one source that tells me the date of birth, 
> and another that tells me the place of birth. But nothing that gives me 
> both together. I think if I had a name scenario as you described, I 
> would use the same method.

Perhaps that is something you need to put in the "Research Notes" -- explain 
to yourself (and anyone coming to your research after you) why you came to a 
particular conclusion. 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a name (when you only have AKA's)

[Wendy Howard]

I've been thinking about creating a souce for "assumptions based on 
available information - check the alternatives", or something similar.  
So that I can enter information in the vital event fields that is 
combined from a number of different sources, all of which is recorded in 
my database.


For example, I might have one source that tells me the date of birth, 
and another that tells me the place of birth. But nothing that gives me 
both together. I think if I had a name scenario as you described, I 
would use the same method.


Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

Rob Miller wrote on 18/04/2016 00:27:

In my family I have the surname BROTHERIDGE.

Throughout all their documents, it can be recorded as BROTHERIDGE, 
BLOTHERIDGE, BOTHERIDGE.


One of my ancestors is Joseph BROTHERIDGE. For him the surname surname 
BROTHERIDGE is never used.


So, this means, his AKA's have plenty of sources, but the name Joseph 
BROTHERIDGE is never completely sourced. (I've sourced this first name 
(using the *Joseph *BLOTHERIDGE and *Joseph *BOTHERIDGE documents). 
But I am unable to source the full name of Joseph BROTHERIDGE.


Hoping my explanation makes sense. What do people do in this instance?

Many thanks!

Rob


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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a name (when you only have AKA's)

[Michele/Support]

Rob, 
It makes perfect sense to me.  I have many examples of this in my file. For
example, I might have the following name

Thomas Calvin Simmons

In the AKAs I have 

Tom Simmons
Thomas C. Simmons
T. C. Simmons
Calvin Simmons

I have sources for all of the AKAs because this is what I found in the
documents that I have but I don’t have a source for his full name which I
put together using the AKAs.  I just leave the source blank.  It is obvious
what I have done.



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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Rob Miller
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2016 8:27 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a name (when you only have AKA's)

In my family I have the surname BROTHERIDGE. 

Throughout all their documents, it can be recorded as BROTHERIDGE,
BLOTHERIDGE, BOTHERIDGE.

One of my ancestors is Joseph BROTHERIDGE. For him the surname surname
BROTHERIDGE is never used.

So, this means, his AKA's have plenty of sources, but the name Joseph
BROTHERIDGE is never completely sourced. (I've sourced this first name
(using the Joseph BLOTHERIDGE and Joseph BOTHERIDGE documents). But I am
unable to source the full name of Joseph BROTHERIDGE.

Hoping my explanation makes sense. What do people do in this instance?

Many thanks!

Rob


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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a name (when you only have AKA's)

[Norris Taylor]

I have a source that I use and re-use over and over again. You could try to
explain it in the source detail with each instance, but it is usually
self-explanatory when looking at the alternative names.


Composite Name from Multiple Sources



On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 7:27 AM, Rob Miller 
wrote:

> In my family I have the surname BROTHERIDGE.
>
> Throughout all their documents, it can be recorded as BROTHERIDGE,
> BLOTHERIDGE, BOTHERIDGE.
>
> One of my ancestors is Joseph BROTHERIDGE. For him the surname surname
> BROTHERIDGE is never used.
>
> So, this means, his AKA's have plenty of sources, but the name Joseph
> BROTHERIDGE is never completely sourced. (I've sourced this first name
> (using the *Joseph *BLOTHERIDGE and *Joseph *BOTHERIDGE documents). But I
> am unable to source the full name of Joseph BROTHERIDGE.
>
> Hoping my explanation makes sense. What do people do in this instance?
>
> Many thanks!
>
> Rob
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing information/images/documents

[R G Strong-genes]

Dale,
You can have 10 saved source citations in the source citation. When he right
clicks on the triangle the list of those citations appear where you can
click which one you want. When you have the source-citation clip-board open
in the bottom right there are buttons where you can Clear, Load, or Save the
citations to Disk.

-Original Message-
From: Dale E O'Connor
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 4:29 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing information/images/documents

So when he does a right click they are not on his source clipboard. When
he chooses a source it loads  and uses it.

Dale

On 1/15/2016 2:54 PM, Brian/Support wrote:
> The Blue triangle opens the source clipboard. Since Geoff only uses one
> source on his clipboards he was selecting a new/different source to use
> on the clipboard.
>
> Wendy is correct that if you use multiple sources on your clipboard then
> you will apply all the current sources at one time, there is no selection.
>
> Brian
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>
>
>
> On 15/01/2016 14:12, Dale E O'Connor wrote:
>> Did I misunderstand Geoff in Legacy's Ultimate Guide to Sources where he
>> said that you could right click on the blue triangle and select which
>> source to use?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> On 1/13/2016 10:47 PM, Wendy Howard wrote:
>>> Now you can load more than one citation into the Source Clipboard,a nd
>>> when you apply the Source Clipboard all your citations will be attached
>>> to that data._Note that you cannot have more than one citation in the
>>> Source
>>> Clipboard and only apply one of them - it's all or nothing.___
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing information/images/documents

[Dale E O'Connor]

So when he does a right click they are not on his source clipboard. When
he chooses a source it loads  and uses it.

Dale

On 1/15/2016 2:54 PM, Brian/Support wrote:
> The Blue triangle opens the source clipboard. Since Geoff only uses one
> source on his clipboards he was selecting a new/different source to use
> on the clipboard.
>
> Wendy is correct that if you use multiple sources on your clipboard then
> you will apply all the current sources at one time, there is no selection.
>
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>
>
> On 15/01/2016 14:12, Dale E O'Connor wrote:
>> Did I misunderstand Geoff in Legacy's Ultimate Guide to Sources where he
>> said that you could right click on the blue triangle and select which
>> source to use?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> On 1/13/2016 10:47 PM, Wendy Howard wrote:
>>> Now you can load more than one citation into the Source Clipboard,a nd
>>> when you apply the Source Clipboard all your citations will be attached
>>> to that data._Note that you cannot have more than one citation in the Source
>>> Clipboard and only apply one of them - it's all or nothing.___
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing information/images/documents

[Dale E O'Connor]

Did I misunderstand Geoff in Legacy's Ultimate Guide to Sources where he
said that you could right click on the blue triangle and select which
source to use?

Thanks,

Dale

On 1/13/2016 10:47 PM, Wendy Howard wrote:
>
> Now you can load more than one citation into the Source Clipboard,a nd
> when you apply the Source Clipboard all your citations will be attached
> to that data._Note that you cannot have more than one citation in the Source
> Clipboard and only apply one of them - it's all or nothing.___
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing information/images/documents

[Wendy Howard]

You can have more than one citation in the Source Clipboard at a time,
and apply them all in one action.

Go to Options > Customise > 7. Sources > 7.5 Source Clipboard - Capacity
and select the option "Allow up to five...".

Now you can load more than one citation into the Source Clipboard,a nd
when you apply the Source Clipboard all your citations will be attached
to that data. Note that you cannot have more than one citation in the
Source Clipboard and only apply one of them - it's all or nothing.

Hope this helps. :-)

Wendy

Hannigan Family Research wrote on 12/01/2016 03:39:
> I am trying to work through the Genealogy Do-Over (sort-of) and have a
> question about sourcing.  I hope that this is the proper group for
> this request.  If not, please let me know where I need to go to get
> an answer.
>
> In most cases, there are primary sources (1930 US Census) and
> secondary sources (Census for Boston, Massachusetts) for most items.Â
> Is it possible to create a primary source and then add the secondary
> (additional) data to the source entry without having 15 source entries
> for the 1930 US Census in Boston?
>
> Thanks.
>
> John




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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing newspaper announcements in Legacy

[Rob Miller]

Jenny and Cathy:  Thanks! I had never thought of using "Births; Deaths; and
Marriages" as the title of the article.

I like it!

Rob

On 11 June 2015 at 23:01, Cathy Pinner  wrote:

> Hi Jenny,
>
> I also would like to be able to put the website data into the Master
> Source.
> If the article has a specific URL, I just add that in the Source Detail. I
> think I started by adding Trove etc but gave up as the source could be
> found without it.
>
> "CRAIG'S REAPING-MACHINE," Adelaide Observer, 20 Feb 1858, p. 7; digital
> images (http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article158120224 : accessed 11 Feb
> 2015).
> This is the Trove collection at the National Library of Australia.
>
> It's a while since I've search British Newspapers and it looks like they
> may not have the specific URL or did I miss it?
>
> "Deaths," Sherborne Mercury, 5 Nov 1842, p. 3; digital images, The British
> Newspaper Archive (www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk : accessed 29 Jun
> 2012).
>
> Cathy
>
> Jenny M Benson wrote:
>
>
> On 11/06/2015 21:50, Rob Miller wrote:
>
>
> I'm diving in and updating some  of my old "basic sources" to "Source
> Writer" sources.
>
> Besides the update, it is giving me a chance to do a better job with
> them. However, it made me realize I'm still not sure about newspaper
> notices.
>
> For a simple birth notice
>
> WILKES - On Aug 7, at the
> Victoria Union Hospital, to Mr.
> and Mrs. William Wilkes, 119
> Queen street west, a son John.
>
> When you source it, do you leave it simple?
>
> "WILKES," The Prince Albert Daily Herald, 7 Aug 1926, p. 6, col. 4.
>
> Do you pull the first name from the announcement to make it easier for
> someone to find?
>
> "WILKS, [John]" The Prince Albert Daily Herald, 7 Aug 1926, p. 6, col. 4.
>
> Do you add “birth announcement†to make the source clearer?
>
> "WILKES, [birth announcement]" The Prince Albert Daily Herald, 7 Aug
> 1926, p. 6, col. 4.
>
> Or do you use some combination of the above?
>
> Do you follow the same format with death and marriage notices?
>
> Before I get too far ahead of myself, I thought I would double check.
>
>
> The Source Template I use most often is Newspapers>Online images (issued
> by unrelated content provider.
>
> For the sort of notice you mention I do no enter anything in the Author
> fields and I put the column heading (which is usually "Births" or
> "Deaths" or "Marriages") in the Article field and the other Citation
> fields as expected.
>
> This gives me a Citation something like:  ""Died," The Morning Post, 03
> May 1824, p. 4, col. 6; digital images, FindMyPast (www.findmypast.co.uk
> : accessed 2 October 2012), The British Newspaper Archive."
>
> The exact text of the notice I copy into the Citation Text field.
>
> (Incidentally, what I really don't like about this template is having to
> enter all the details of the w ebsite into every Source Citation, rather
> than have it appear in the Master Source, but that's another topic.)
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing newspaper announcements in Legacy

[Cathy Pinner]

Hi Jenny,

I also would like to be able to put the website data into the Master Source.
If the article has a specific URL, I just add that in the Source Detail.
I think I started by adding Trove etc but gave up as the source could be
found without it.

"CRAIG'S REAPING-MACHINE," Adelaide Observer, 20 Feb 1858, p. 7; digital
images (http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article158120224 : accessed 11 Feb
2015).
This is the Trove collection at the National Library of Australia.

It's a while since I've search British Newspapers and it looks like they
may not have the specific URL or did I miss it?

"Deaths," Sherborne Mercury, 5 Nov 1842, p. 3; digital images, The
British Newspaper Archive (www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk : accessed
29 Jun 2012).

Cathy

Jenny M Benson wrote:
>
> On 11/06/2015 21:50, Rob Miller wrote:
>>
>> I'm diving in and updating some of my old "basic sources" to "Source
>> Writer" sources.
>>
>> Besides the update, it is giving me a chance to do a better job with
>> them. However, it made me realize I'm still not sure about newspaper
>> notices.
>>
>> For a simple birth notice
>>
>> WILKES - On Aug 7, at the
>> Victoria Union Hospital, to Mr.
>> and Mrs. William Wilkes, 119
>> Queen street west, a son John.
>>
>> When you source it, do you leave it simple?
>>
>> "WILKES," The Prince Albert Daily Herald, 7 Aug 1926, p. 6, col. 4.
>>
>> Do you pull the first name from the announcement to make it easier for
>> someone to find?
>>
>> "WILKS, [John]" The Prince Albert Daily Herald, 7 Aug 1926, p. 6, col. 4.
>>
>> Do you add “birth announcement” to make the source clearer?
>>
>> "WILKES, [birth announcement]" The Prince Albert Daily Herald, 7 Aug
>> 1926, p. 6, col. 4.
>>
>> Or do you use some combination of the above?
>>
>> Do you follow the same format with death and marriage notices?
>>
>> Before I get too far ahead of myself, I thought I would double check.
>>
>
> The Source Template I use most often is Newspapers>Online images (issued
> by unrelated content provider.
>
> For the sort of notice you mention I do no enter anything in the Author
> fields and I put the column heading (which is usually "Births" or
> "Deaths" or "Marriages") in the Article field and the other Citation
> fields as expected.
>
> This gives me a Citation something like: ""Died," The Morning Post, 03
> May 1824, p. 4, col. 6; digital images, FindMyPast (www.findmypast.co.uk
> : accessed 2 October 2012), The British Newspaper Archive."
>
> The exact text of the notice I copy into the Citation Text field.
>
> (Incidentally, what I really don't like about this template is having to
> enter all the details of the website into every Source Citation, rather
> than have it appear in the Master Source, but that's another topic.)
>




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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing newspaper announcements in Legacy

[Jenny M Benson]

On 11/06/2015 21:50, Rob Miller wrote:
> I'm diving in and updating some  of my old "basic sources" to "Source
> Writer" sources.
>
> Besides the update, it is giving me a chance to do a better job with
> them. However, it made me realize I'm still not sure about newspaper
> notices.
>
> For a simple birth notice
>
> WILKES - On Aug 7, at the
> Victoria Union Hospital, to Mr.
> and Mrs. William Wilkes, 119
> Queen street west, a son John.
>
> When you source it, do you leave it simple?
>
> "WILKES," The Prince Albert Daily Herald, 7 Aug 1926, p. 6, col. 4.
>
> Do you pull the first name from the announcement to make it easier for
> someone to find?
>
> "WILKS, [John]" The Prince Albert Daily Herald, 7 Aug 1926, p. 6, col. 4.
>
> Do you add “birth announcement” to make the source clearer?
>
> "WILKES, [birth announcement]" The Prince Albert Daily Herald, 7 Aug
> 1926, p. 6, col. 4.
>
> Or do you use some combination of the above?
>
> Do you follow the same format with death and marriage notices?
>
> Before I get too far ahead of myself, I thought I would double check.
>
The Source Template I use most often is Newspapers>Online images (issued
by unrelated content provider.

For the sort of notice you mention I do no enter anything in the Author
fields and I put the column heading (which is usually "Births" or
"Deaths" or "Marriages") in the Article field and the other Citation
fields as expected.

This gives me a Citation something like:  ""Died," The Morning Post, 03
May 1824, p. 4, col. 6; digital images, FindMyPast (www.findmypast.co.uk
: accessed 2 October 2012), The British Newspaper Archive."

The exact text of the notice I copy into the Citation Text field.

(Incidentally, what I really don't like about this template is having to
enter all the details of the website into every Source Citation, rather
than have it appear in the Master Source, but that's another topic.)


--
Jenny M Benson




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RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs

[grayscot2]

None of the programs, that I know about, move your photos around or 
change anything unless you command them to do so.   Photoshop is expensive, 
Paint Shop less so, Breezebrowser still less and Irfanvue and Picasa free.  
Irfanvue is more direct and immediately learnable than Picasa.

Prescott Smith
presku...@yahoo.com


From: CE WOOD [wood...@msn.com]
Sent: Monday, 05 January, 2015 07:50 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs

If you use Photoshop, look at LightRoom, also by Adobe which is what 
professional photographers use. It leaves everything on your computer, but 
allows you to create myriad albums of using the any of your photos, even if 
they are already in another LightRoom album, without ever moving them from 
where they are on your computer.

Of course, all the metadata, captioning, etc, too.

CE





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RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs

[CE WOOD]

If you use Photoshop, look at LightRoom, also by Adobe which is what 
professional photographers use. It leaves everything on your computer, but 
allows you to create myriad albums of using the any of your photos, even if 
they are already in another LightRoom album, without ever moving them from 
where they are on your computer.

Of course, all the metadata, captioning, etc, too.


CE
From: cmo...@msn.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:04:34 -0800





Thanks all, I use Photoshop and so trying to figure out Picasa was more
than I wanted to do if I didn’t have to. I’ll be meeting with her tomorrow and
will be able to help her understand was is going on with her pictures. I
appreciate the help.

Cheri




From: Jessica Morgan
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 2:27 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs


\My Pictures\Picasa is the default, so she should look in
C:\\Pictures\Picasa or just do a search in Windows Explorer for Picasa. Assuming
she is using a windows OS and not Mac. On my Windows 8 Surface Pro 2, this is
the default location for pictures.







Jessica Morgan
Sr Engineering Technologist, Black Stone
Minerals
Chair, SPE GCS Petro-Tech Study
Group
**
GedMatch
kits: A064089 (SMK), A276959 (JRK), A608610 (TJ), A798429 (Jo), A817318 (JRKM),
M399320 (JKM), M918651 (MM), several phasing kits as well
FTDNA kits:
B12555 (SMK), B12524 (JMM), B13031 (JKM), 368036 (CJ)
Ancestry.com:
jrkmorgan - all trees private

Hometown Cotton Valley, Louisiana.
Ratcliff/Lockey and Allen/Morgan decent. Researching Allen, Bandy, Basinger,
Bethune, Beshea, Cruthirds, Kaylor, Lockey, Morgan, McGarity, Ratcliff,
Striplin, Teague, Umphries, Urquhart, Wilkins - Current generations Louisiana,
Arkansas areas; Migratory from Alabama, North Carolina


On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Cheri Moss  wrote:



  Pat, I've been trying to find someone who uses Picasa, I'm trying help
  some one but I don't use the program. Can you please tell me what the default
  location is for importing  pictures. If Picasa is removed from her
  computer, will her pictures still be on her computer? Thanks for any help you
  can give me. Sorry for hijacking the thread.

  Cheri

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Pat Hickin 
  wrote:




Thanks so much, Margaret,

I use Picasa and it works like a breeze!

(I knew how to do that, just didn't know it was metadata!)

Pat


On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Nancy Paget  wrote:





  Margaret, thanks for that great article. I didn’t know any of this
  before.




  From: Margaret Turner
  Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 10:17 PM
  To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing
  photographs


  Pat,
  A good article is here re IPTC:
http://www.rideau-info.com/photos/labelling.html

  I do not use the visible option, but have in as part of the metadata.


  You can use a number of freeware to edit the images:
  irfan http://www.irfanview.com/
  xnview http://www.xnview.com/en/

  :)

  Margaret



  On 5 January 2015 at 13:43, Pat Hickin  wrote:


So how does one do that??

Pat




On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Richard
Folkerth  wrote:






  GREETINGS,
ALL

  I have no opinion
  about the ability (or not) of Legacy to 'source' photographs. But I DO
  have an opinion about the best way to provide source info for a
  photograph; put the source information in the image metadata.

  Metadata is the
  data about the data image; the text information that accompanies each
  image, JPEG or whatever. The metadata allows us to attach everything
  from our street address to the subject of the photo to the technical
  info about the photograph … to the source of the photo. I believe any
  useful information associated with an image has a place somewhere in
  the metadata.

  Most modern image
  processing or image viewing programs allow access to the metadata, yet
  too few of us use this important feature of digital imaging … myself
  included. I know I should type the stuff into the appropriate fields
  but too often I grow bored and move on to more exciting things.
  Doesn't matter if you follow the approach of Elizabeth Shown Mills or
  not; just put something in the metadata that will allow someone else
  to know where you found the image (even if it is from your personal
  collection of photographs).

  Bottom line; put
  sourcing in the metadata no matter what other sourcing you may do
  !!!

  DICK FOLKERTH

  Dallas

Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs

[Cheri Moss]

Thanks all, I use Photoshop and so trying to figure out Picasa was more than I 
wanted to do if I didn’t have to. I’ll be meeting with her tomorrow and will be 
able to help her understand was is going on with her pictures. I appreciate the 
help.

Cheri

From: Jessica Morgan
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 2:27 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs

\My Pictures\Picasa is the default, so she should look in C:\\Pictures\Picasa 
or just do a search in Windows Explorer for Picasa. Assuming she is using a 
windows OS and not Mac. On my Windows 8 Surface Pro 2, this is the default 
location for pictures.

Jessica Morgan

Sr Engineering Technologist, Black Stone Minerals

Chair, SPE GCS Petro-Tech Study Group
**
GedMatch kits: A064089 (SMK), A276959 (JRK), A608610 (TJ), A798429 (Jo), 
A817318 (JRKM), M399320 (JKM), M918651 (MM), several phasing kits as well
FTDNA kits: B12555 (SMK), B12524 (JMM), B13031 (JKM), 368036 (CJ)
Ancestry.com: jrkmorgan - all trees private
Hometown Cotton Valley, Louisiana. Ratcliff/Lockey and Allen/Morgan decent. 
Researching Allen, Bandy, Basinger, Bethune, Beshea, Cruthirds, Kaylor, Lockey, 
Morgan, McGarity, Ratcliff, Striplin, Teague, Umphries, Urquhart, Wilkins - 
Current generations Louisiana, Arkansas areas; Migratory from Alabama, North 
Carolina




On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Cheri Moss  wrote:

  Pat, I've been trying to find someone who uses Picasa, I'm trying help some 
one but I don't use the program. Can you please tell me what the default 
location is for importing  pictures. If Picasa is removed from her computer, 
will her pictures still be on her computer? Thanks for any help you can give 
me. Sorry for hijacking the thread.

  Cheri

  Sent from my iPad

  On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Pat Hickin  wrote:


Thanks so much, Margaret,

I use Picasa and it works like a breeze!

(I knew how to do that, just didn't know it was metadata!)

Pat

On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Nancy Paget  wrote:

  Margaret, thanks for that great article. I didn’t know any of this before.

  From: Margaret Turner
  Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 10:17 PM
  To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs

  Pat,
  A good article is here re IPTC:
  http://www.rideau-info.com/photos/labelling.html

  I do not use the visible option, but have in as part of the metadata.

  You can use a number of freeware to edit the images:
  irfan http://www.irfanview.com/
  xnview http://www.xnview.com/en/

  :)

  Margaret


  On 5 January 2015 at 13:43, Pat Hickin  wrote:

So how does one do that??

Pat

On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Richard Folkerth 
 wrote:

  GREETINGS, ALL

  I have no opinion about the ability (or not) of Legacy to 'source' 
photographs. But I DO have an opinion about the best way to provide source info 
for a photograph; put the source information in the image metadata.

  Metadata is the data about the data image; the text information that 
accompanies each image, JPEG or whatever. The metadata allows us to attach 
everything from our street address to the subject of the photo to the technical 
info about the photograph … to the source of the photo. I believe any useful 
information associated with an image has a place somewhere in the metadata.

  Most modern image processing or image viewing programs allow access 
to the metadata, yet too few of us use this important feature of digital 
imaging … myself included. I know I should type the stuff into the appropriate 
fields but too often I grow bored and move on to more exciting things. Doesn't 
matter if you follow the approach of Elizabeth Shown Mills or not; just put 
something in the metadata that will allow someone else to know where you found 
the image (even if it is from your personal collection of photographs).

  Bottom line; put sourcing in the metadata no matter what other 
sourcing you may do !!!

  DICK FOLKERTH
  Dallas



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs

[grayscot2]

You can remove Picasa without losing any photographs.  They work with 
any of your photos anywhere on your computer, but only show and organize them, 
never delete except at your command.

Prescott Smith
presku...@yahoo.com


From: Cheri Moss [cmo...@msn.com]
Sent: Monday, 05 January, 2015 04:17 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs

Pat, I've been trying to find someone who uses Picasa, I'm trying help some one 
but I don't use the program. Can you please tell me what the default location 
is for importing  pictures. If Picasa is removed from her computer, will her 
pictures still be on her computer? Thanks for any help you can give me. Sorry 
for hijacking the thread.

Cheri

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RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs

[Jennifer Crockett]

Here are some excellent articles on this topic:

http://jlog.jgen.ws/photos/iptc-summary/
http://jlog.jgen.ws/photos/adding-source-to-images/


Regards,

Jennifer
http://colston-wenck.com

From: Richard Folkerth [mailto:rfolke...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Monday, 5 January 2015 12:44 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs

GREETINGS, ALL

I have no opinion about the ability (or not) of Legacy to 'source' photographs. 
But I DO have an opinion about the best way to provide source info for a 
photograph; put the source information in the image metadata.

Metadata is the data about the data image; the text information that 
accompanies each image, JPEG or whatever. The metadata allows us to attach 
everything from our street address to the subject of the photo to the technical 
info about the photograph … to the source of the photo. I believe any useful 
information associated with an image has a place somewhere in the metadata.

Most modern image processing or image viewing programs allow access to the 
metadata, yet too few of us use this important feature of digital imaging … 
myself included. I know I should type the stuff into the appropriate fields but 
too often I grow bored and move on to more exciting things. Doesn't matter if 
you follow the approach of Elizabeth Shown Mills or not; just put something in 
the metadata that will allow someone else to know where you found the image 
(even if it is from your personal collection of photographs).

Bottom line; put sourcing in the metadata no matter what other sourcing you may 
do !!!

DICK FOLKERTH
Dallas






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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs

[Jessica Morgan]

\My Pictures\Picasa is the default, so she should look in
C:\\Pictures\Picasa or just do a search in Windows Explorer for Picasa.
Assuming she is using a windows OS and not Mac. On my Windows 8 Surface Pro
2, this is the default location for pictures.

*Jessica Morgan*

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On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Cheri Moss  wrote:

> Pat, I've been trying to find someone who uses Picasa, I'm trying help
> some one but I don't use the program. Can you please tell me what the
> default location is for importing  pictures. If Picasa is removed from her
> computer, will her pictures still be on her computer? Thanks for any help
> you can give me. Sorry for hijacking the thread.
>
> Cheri
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Pat Hickin  wrote:
>
> Thanks so much, Margaret,
>
> I use Picasa and it works like a breeze!
>
> (I knew how to do that, just didn't know it was metadata!)
>
> Pat
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Nancy Paget  wrote:
>
>>   Margaret, thanks for that great article. I didn’t know any of this
>> before.
>>
>>  *From:* Margaret Turner 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 04, 2015 10:17 PM
>> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs
>>
>>  Pat,
>> A good article is here re IPTC:
>> http://www.rideau-info.com/photos/labelling.html
>> I do not use the visible option, but have in as part of the metadata.
>>
>> You can use a number of freeware to edit the images:
>> irfan http://www.irfanview.com/
>> xnview http://www.xnview.com/en/
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Margaret
>>
>>
>> On 5 January 2015 at 13:43, Pat Hickin  wrote:
>>
>>> So how does one do that??
>>>
>>> Pat
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Richard Folkerth <
>>> rfolke...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  GREETINGS, ALL
>>>>
>>>> I have no opinion about the ability (or not) of Legacy to 'source'
>>>> photographs. But I DO have an opinion about the best way to provide source
>>>> info for a photograph; put the source information in the image metadata.
>>>>
>>>> Metadata is the data about the data image; the text information that
>>>> accompanies each image, JPEG or whatever. The metadata allows us to attach
>>>> everything from our street address to the subject of the photo to the
>>>> technical info about the photograph … to the source of the photo. I believe
>>>> any useful information associated with an image has a place somewhere in
>>>> the metadata.
>>>>
>>>> Most modern image processing or image viewing programs allow access to
>>>> the metadata, yet too few of us use this important feature of digital
>>>> imaging … myself included. I know I should type the stuff into the
>>>> appropriate fields but too often I grow bored and move on to more exciting
>>>> things. Doesn't matter if you follow the approach of Elizabeth Shown Mills
>>>> or not; just put something in the metadata that will allow someone else to
>>>> know where you found the image (even if it is from your personal collection
>>>> of photographs).
>>>>
>>>> *Bottom line; put sourcing in the metadata no matter what other
>>>> sourcing you may do !!!*
>>>>
>>>> DICK FOLKERTH
>>>>  Dallas
>>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs

[Cheri Moss]

Pat, I've been trying to find someone who uses Picasa, I'm trying help some one 
but I don't use the program. Can you please tell me what the default location 
is for importing  pictures. If Picasa is removed from her computer, will her 
pictures still be on her computer? Thanks for any help you can give me. Sorry 
for hijacking the thread.

Cheri

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Pat Hickin  wrote:
>
> Thanks so much, Margaret,
>
> I use Picasa and it works like a breeze!
>
> (I knew how to do that, just didn't know it was metadata!)
>
> Pat
>
>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Nancy Paget  wrote:
>> Margaret, thanks for that great article. I didn’t know any of this before.
>>
>> From: Margaret Turner
>> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 10:17 PM
>> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs
>>
>> Pat,
>> A good article is here re IPTC:
>> http://www.rideau-info.com/photos/labelling.html
>> I do not use the visible option, but have in as part of the metadata.
>>
>> You can use a number of freeware to edit the images:
>> irfan http://www.irfanview.com/
>> xnview http://www.xnview.com/en/
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Margaret
>>
>>
>>> On 5 January 2015 at 13:43, Pat Hickin  wrote:
>>> So how does one do that??
>>>
>>> Pat
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Richard Folkerth  
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> GREETINGS, ALL
>>>>
>>>> I have no opinion about the ability (or not) of Legacy to 'source' 
>>>> photographs. But I DO have an opinion about the best way to provide source 
>>>> info for a photograph; put the source information in the image metadata.
>>>>
>>>> Metadata is the data about the data image; the text information that 
>>>> accompanies each image, JPEG or whatever. The metadata allows us to attach 
>>>> everything from our street address to the subject of the photo to the 
>>>> technical info about the photograph … to the source of the photo. I 
>>>> believe any useful information associated with an image has a place 
>>>> somewhere in the metadata.
>>>>
>>>> Most modern image processing or image viewing programs allow access to the 
>>>> metadata, yet too few of us use this important feature of digital imaging 
>>>> … myself included. I know I should type the stuff into the appropriate 
>>>> fields but too often I grow bored and move on to more exciting things. 
>>>> Doesn't matter if you follow the approach of Elizabeth Shown Mills or not; 
>>>> just put something in the metadata that will allow someone else to know 
>>>> where you found the image (even if it is from your personal collection of 
>>>> photographs).
>>>>
>>>> Bottom line; put sourcing in the metadata no matter what other sourcing 
>>>> you may do !!!
>>>>
>>>> DICK FOLKERTH
>>>> Dallas
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs

[Pat Hickin]

Thanks so much, Margaret,

I use Picasa and it works like a breeze!

(I knew how to do that, just didn't know it was metadata!)

Pat

On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Nancy Paget  wrote:

>   Margaret, thanks for that great article. I didn’t know any of this
> before.
>
>  *From:* Margaret Turner 
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 04, 2015 10:17 PM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs
>
>  Pat,
> A good article is here re IPTC:
> http://www.rideau-info.com/photos/labelling.html
> I do not use the visible option, but have in as part of the metadata.
>
> You can use a number of freeware to edit the images:
> irfan http://www.irfanview.com/
> xnview http://www.xnview.com/en/
>
> :)
>
> Margaret
>
>
> On 5 January 2015 at 13:43, Pat Hickin  wrote:
>
>> So how does one do that??
>>
>> Pat
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Richard Folkerth > > wrote:
>>
>>>  GREETINGS, ALL
>>>
>>> I have no opinion about the ability (or not) of Legacy to 'source'
>>> photographs. But I DO have an opinion about the best way to provide source
>>> info for a photograph; put the source information in the image metadata.
>>>
>>> Metadata is the data about the data image; the text information that
>>> accompanies each image, JPEG or whatever. The metadata allows us to attach
>>> everything from our street address to the subject of the photo to the
>>> technical info about the photograph … to the source of the photo. I believe
>>> any useful information associated with an image has a place somewhere in
>>> the metadata.
>>>
>>> Most modern image processing or image viewing programs allow access to
>>> the metadata, yet too few of us use this important feature of digital
>>> imaging … myself included. I know I should type the stuff into the
>>> appropriate fields but too often I grow bored and move on to more exciting
>>> things. Doesn't matter if you follow the approach of Elizabeth Shown Mills
>>> or not; just put something in the metadata that will allow someone else to
>>> know where you found the image (even if it is from your personal collection
>>> of photographs).
>>>
>>> *Bottom line; put sourcing in the metadata no matter what other sourcing
>>> you may do !!!*
>>>
>>> DICK FOLKERTH
>>>  Dallas
>>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs

[Nancy Paget]

Margaret, thanks for that great article. I didn’t know any of this before.

From: Margaret Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 10:17 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs

Pat,
A good article is here re IPTC:
http://www.rideau-info.com/photos/labelling.html

I do not use the visible option, but have in as part of the metadata.

You can use a number of freeware to edit the images:
irfan http://www.irfanview.com/
xnview http://www.xnview.com/en/

:)

Margaret


On 5 January 2015 at 13:43, Pat Hickin  wrote:

  So how does one do that??

  Pat

  On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Richard Folkerth  
wrote:

GREETINGS, ALL

I have no opinion about the ability (or not) of Legacy to 'source' 
photographs. But I DO have an opinion about the best way to provide source info 
for a photograph; put the source information in the image metadata.

Metadata is the data about the data image; the text information that 
accompanies each image, JPEG or whatever. The metadata allows us to attach 
everything from our street address to the subject of the photo to the technical 
info about the photograph … to the source of the photo. I believe any useful 
information associated with an image has a place somewhere in the metadata.

Most modern image processing or image viewing programs allow access to the 
metadata, yet too few of us use this important feature of digital imaging … 
myself included. I know I should type the stuff into the appropriate fields but 
too often I grow bored and move on to more exciting things. Doesn't matter if 
you follow the approach of Elizabeth Shown Mills or not; just put something in 
the metadata that will allow someone else to know where you found the image 
(even if it is from your personal collection of photographs).

Bottom line; put sourcing in the metadata no matter what other sourcing you 
may do !!!

DICK FOLKERTH
Dallas



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs

[grayscot2]

I usually use Paint Shop, but the free Irfanvue does as well.

Prescott Smith
presku...@yahoo.com


From: Pat Hickin [pph...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, 04 January, 2015 08:43 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs

So how does one do that??

Pat

On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Richard Folkerth < rfolke...@sbcglobal.net > 
wrote:

GREETINGS, ALL

I have no opinion about the ability (or not) of Legacy to 'source' photographs. 
But I DO have an opinion about the best way to provide source info for a 
photograph; put the source information in the image metadata.

Metadata is the data about the data image; the text information that 
accompanies each image, JPEG or whatever. The metadata allows us to attach 
everything from our street address to the subject of the photo to the technical 
info about the photograph … to the source of the photo. I believe any useful 
information associated with an image has a place somewhere in the metadata.

Most modern image processing or image viewing programs allow access to the 
metadata, yet too few of us use this important feature of digital imaging … 
myself included. I know I should type the stuff into the appropriate fields but 
too often I grow bored and move on to more exciting things. Doesn't matter if 
you follow the approach of Elizabeth Shown Mills or not; just put something in 
the metadata that will allow someone else to know where you found the image 
(even if it is from your personal collection of photographs).

Bottom line; put sourcing in the metadata no matter what other sourcing you may 
do !!!

DICK FOLKERTH
Dallas

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs

[Margaret Turner]

Pat,
A good article is here re IPTC:
http://www.rideau-info.com/photos/labelling.html
I do not use the visible option, but have in as part of the metadata.

You can use a number of freeware to edit the images:
irfan http://www.irfanview.com/
xnview http://www.xnview.com/en/

:)

Margaret


On 5 January 2015 at 13:43, Pat Hickin  wrote:

> So how does one do that??
>
> Pat
>
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Richard Folkerth 
> wrote:
>
>> GREETINGS, ALL
>>
>> I have no opinion about the ability (or not) of Legacy to 'source'
>> photographs. But I DO have an opinion about the best way to provide source
>> info for a photograph; put the source information in the image metadata.
>>
>> Metadata is the data about the data image; the text information that
>> accompanies each image, JPEG or whatever. The metadata allows us to attach
>> everything from our street address to the subject of the photo to the
>> technical info about the photograph ... to the source of the photo. I believe
>> any useful information associated with an image has a place somewhere in
>> the metadata.
>>
>> Most modern image processing or image viewing programs allow access to
>> the metadata, yet too few of us use this important feature of digital
>> imaging ... myself included. I know I should type the stuff into the
>> appropriate fields but too often I grow bored and move on to more exciting
>> things. Doesn't matter if you follow the approach of Elizabeth Shown Mills
>> or not; just put something in the metadata that will allow someone else to
>> know where you found the image (even if it is from your personal collection
>> of photographs).
>>
>> *Bottom line; put sourcing in the metadata no matter what other sourcing
>> you may do !!!*
>>
>> DICK FOLKERTH
>> Dallas
>>
>




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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs

[Shannon Thomas]

 I am trying to get better about adding the metadata to my images.  I have
also created a photo Event where I can attach the photo, source it and add
any other information or notes.

shannon

On Sunday, January 4, 2015, Pat Hickin  wrote:

> So how does one do that??
>
> Pat
>
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Richard Folkerth  > wrote:
>
>> GREETINGS, ALL
>>
>> I have no opinion about the ability (or not) of Legacy to 'source'
>> photographs. But I DO have an opinion about the best way to provide source
>> info for a photograph; put the source information in the image metadata.
>>
>> Metadata is the data about the data image; the text information that
>> accompanies each image, JPEG or whatever. The metadata allows us to attach
>> everything from our street address to the subject of the photo to the
>> technical info about the photograph … to the source of the photo. I believe
>> any useful information associated with an image has a place somewhere in
>> the metadata.
>>
>> Most modern image processing or image viewing programs allow access to
>> the metadata, yet too few of us use this important feature of digital
>> imaging … myself included. I know I should type the stuff into the
>> appropriate fields but too often I grow bored and move on to more exciting
>> things. Doesn't matter if you follow the approach of Elizabeth Shown Mills
>> or not; just put something in the metadata that will allow someone else to
>> know where you found the image (even if it is from your personal collection
>> of photographs).
>>
>> *Bottom line; put sourcing in the metadata no matter what other sourcing
>> you may do !!!*
>>
>> DICK FOLKERTH
>> Dallas
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing photographs

[Pat Hickin]

So how does one do that??

Pat

On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Richard Folkerth 
wrote:

> GREETINGS, ALL
>
> I have no opinion about the ability (or not) of Legacy to 'source'
> photographs. But I DO have an opinion about the best way to provide source
> info for a photograph; put the source information in the image metadata.
>
> Metadata is the data about the data image; the text information that
> accompanies each image, JPEG or whatever. The metadata allows us to attach
> everything from our street address to the subject of the photo to the
> technical info about the photograph … to the source of the photo. I believe
> any useful information associated with an image has a place somewhere in
> the metadata.
>
> Most modern image processing or image viewing programs allow access to the
> metadata, yet too few of us use this important feature of digital imaging …
> myself included. I know I should type the stuff into the appropriate fields
> but too often I grow bored and move on to more exciting things. Doesn't
> matter if you follow the approach of Elizabeth Shown Mills or not; just put
> something in the metadata that will allow someone else to know where you
> found the image (even if it is from your personal collection of
> photographs).
>
> *Bottom line; put sourcing in the metadata no matter what other sourcing
> you may do !!!*
>
> DICK FOLKERTH
> Dallas
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing headaches

[Kirstin]

Nancy, I was trying to cite the original source (the graveyard) first
and note Find-A-Grave in the detail, but that is where I got into
trouble. I need to decide which route I'm going to go with before I
enter any more data!

Kirstin

On 9/3/2014 4:44 PM, Nancy Stevens wrote:
> Yes, I put Find A Grave as the website title with "database and digital
> images" as a generic umbrella for Find A Grave.   If the specific entry
> does not have a photograph, on the Detail record I put:  database entry for
> John Doe, death date, Cemetery, Town, County, State.  If it does have a
> photograph I use:  photograph, gravestone for . . . mainly so that I know I
> saw an image of the gravestone.   The only drawback I can see to creating
> separate master sources for images and database entries is that you would
> have to create a second citation if the database entry is updated later
> with a photograph.
>
> The only citations I have for actual photographs I used Cemeteries -- Grave
> markers, . . .  -- Grave markers, rural.   On the detail record I put:
> photograph supplied by [in my case I am not the photographer]
>
> I prefer the end result of the second.  For everything else (other than
> Find A Grave) I cite the original source first and the website of the image
> second.   Now I am questioning my Find A Grave decision ! ! !
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Kirstin 
> wrote:
>
>> Nancy, Thank you for your input. I tried the template you suggested and
>> like the output. I'm assuming you put Find-A-Grave in the master source,
>> which makes it the title, but I can live with that. My only question is
>> what you do when there is no image. The footnote says "Find-A-Grave,
>> database and digital images" from the master source. I find that
>> confusing. I changed it back to digital images, but now need a template
>> for when it is just a database, no image. If I use "Cemetery records >
>> Compiled records: database online" it puts Find-A-Grave in quotations,
>> as opposed to the image citation where it is italic. I like consistency,
>> which is why I was using the override in the first place.
>>
>> Also, the Bibliography says "n. d." What does that mean?
>>
>> Also, how do you document photos you personally took at a cemetery?
>>
>> Kirstin
>>
>> On 9/2/2014 10:28 AM, Nancy Stevens wrote:
>>> I understand your question -- I struggled with this a bit too.  I finally
>>> settled on the template for Cemetery records -- Grave markers ...  --
>>> Online images   On the Master Source I changed the Item Type to
>>> Database and Digital Images.  Then on the Detail records I use:
>>> photograph, gravestone for ...  or database entry for ...   depending on
>>> whether or not there is a photograph of the gravestone.I include the
>>> name and location of the cemetery in the Detail entry and the Find A
>> Grave
>>> memorial number in the detail notes set to printing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Kirstin 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Cathy, I only use the generic source when I can't find one that suits my
 purpose. Find-A-Grave is the one I was working on and couldn't get it to
 appear the way I wanted it too. I've looked on the internet at how
 different people source Find-A-Grave and couldn't make it look like I
 want it to look. As far as I'm concerned Find-A-Grave is a repository,
 not an author or title. All my other database sources work rather well
 with some tweaking (Birth Certificates, Death Certificates, Marriage
 Licenses, etc). I'd like to hear how others are sourcing Find-A-Grave.
 Most of what I found on line referred to templates in other programs.

 Kirstin



 On 8/31/2014 5:25 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:
> Kristin,
> You really are an extreme lumper if you put all online databases under
> the one Master Source.
> Why not do yourself a favour and become less of a lumper so you don't
> have to use the Source Citation Override for almost every source you
>> add.
>
> You'd find you'd add sources far faster ;-)
>
> You must have to find and enter the information for every particular
> database you use again every time you enter a source - or do you only
> use online databases that have the source citation nicely formatted for
> you like FamilySearch that you can copy and paste? In which case you're
> missing out on heaps of data?
>
> Cathy
>
> Leon Chapman wrote:
>>
>> Kristin:
>>
>> Please indicate what version of Legacy you are using.
>>
>> I don't understand your use of Override for the citation??
>> Are you editing an EVENT and then choosing to Edit Event Sentence
>> Definition?
>> ​Is this what you are calling an 
>> Override?
>>
>> ​If you are editing a Master 
>> Source, I do not see
>> any OVERRIDE
 function -
>> 1. You can edit the Sou

Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing headaches

[Nancy Stevens]

Yes, I put Find A Grave as the website title with "database and digital
images" as a generic umbrella for Find A Grave.   If the specific entry
does not have a photograph, on the Detail record I put:  database entry for
John Doe, death date, Cemetery, Town, County, State.  If it does have a
photograph I use:  photograph, gravestone for . . . mainly so that I know I
saw an image of the gravestone.   The only drawback I can see to creating
separate master sources for images and database entries is that you would
have to create a second citation if the database entry is updated later
with a photograph.

The only citations I have for actual photographs I used Cemeteries -- Grave
markers, . . .  -- Grave markers, rural.   On the detail record I put:
photograph supplied by [in my case I am not the photographer]

I prefer the end result of the second.  For everything else (other than
Find A Grave) I cite the original source first and the website of the image
second.   Now I am questioning my Find A Grave decision ! ! !


On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Kirstin 
wrote:

> Nancy, Thank you for your input. I tried the template you suggested and
> like the output. I'm assuming you put Find-A-Grave in the master source,
> which makes it the title, but I can live with that. My only question is
> what you do when there is no image. The footnote says "Find-A-Grave,
> database and digital images" from the master source. I find that
> confusing. I changed it back to digital images, but now need a template
> for when it is just a database, no image. If I use "Cemetery records >
> Compiled records: database online" it puts Find-A-Grave in quotations,
> as opposed to the image citation where it is italic. I like consistency,
> which is why I was using the override in the first place.
>
> Also, the Bibliography says "n. d." What does that mean?
>
> Also, how do you document photos you personally took at a cemetery?
>
> Kirstin
>
> On 9/2/2014 10:28 AM, Nancy Stevens wrote:
> > I understand your question -- I struggled with this a bit too.  I finally
> > settled on the template for Cemetery records -- Grave markers ...  --
> > Online images   On the Master Source I changed the Item Type to
> > Database and Digital Images.  Then on the Detail records I use:
> > photograph, gravestone for ...  or database entry for ...   depending on
> > whether or not there is a photograph of the gravestone.I include the
> > name and location of the cemetery in the Detail entry and the Find A
> Grave
> > memorial number in the detail notes set to printing.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Kirstin 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Cathy, I only use the generic source when I can't find one that suits my
> >> purpose. Find-A-Grave is the one I was working on and couldn't get it to
> >> appear the way I wanted it too. I've looked on the internet at how
> >> different people source Find-A-Grave and couldn't make it look like I
> >> want it to look. As far as I'm concerned Find-A-Grave is a repository,
> >> not an author or title. All my other database sources work rather well
> >> with some tweaking (Birth Certificates, Death Certificates, Marriage
> >> Licenses, etc). I'd like to hear how others are sourcing Find-A-Grave.
> >> Most of what I found on line referred to templates in other programs.
> >>
> >> Kirstin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/31/2014 5:25 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:
> >>> Kristin,
> >>> You really are an extreme lumper if you put all online databases under
> >>> the one Master Source.
> >>> Why not do yourself a favour and become less of a lumper so you don't
> >>> have to use the Source Citation Override for almost every source you
> add.
> >>>
> >>> You'd find you'd add sources far faster ;-)
> >>>
> >>> You must have to find and enter the information for every particular
> >>> database you use again every time you enter a source - or do you only
> >>> use online databases that have the source citation nicely formatted for
> >>> you like FamilySearch that you can copy and paste? In which case you're
> >>> missing out on heaps of data?
> >>>
> >>> Cathy
> >>>
> >>> Leon Chapman wrote:
> 
>  Kristin:
> 
>  Please indicate what version of Legacy you are using.
> 
>  I don't understand your use of Override for the citation??
>  Are you editing an EVENT and then choosing to Edit Event Sentence
>  Definition?
>  ​Is this what you are calling an Override?
> 
>  ​If you are editing a Master Source, I do not see
> any OVERRIDE
> >> function -
>  1. You can edit the Source name, author, Title, Pub facts etc, but no
>  override function.
> 
>  We need more information about how you are getting to OVERRIDE
>  function that you are referring.
>  Chap
> 
>  ___
>  Leon Chapman
>  chap...@gmail.com 
>  -
> 
> 
>  On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Kirstin <
> genealogylady...@veriz

Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing headaches

[Kirstin]

Nancy, Thank you for your input. I tried the template you suggested and
like the output. I'm assuming you put Find-A-Grave in the master source,
which makes it the title, but I can live with that. My only question is
what you do when there is no image. The footnote says "Find-A-Grave,
database and digital images" from the master source. I find that
confusing. I changed it back to digital images, but now need a template
for when it is just a database, no image. If I use "Cemetery records >
Compiled records: database online" it puts Find-A-Grave in quotations,
as opposed to the image citation where it is italic. I like consistency,
which is why I was using the override in the first place.

Also, the Bibliography says "n. d." What does that mean?

Also, how do you document photos you personally took at a cemetery?

Kirstin

On 9/2/2014 10:28 AM, Nancy Stevens wrote:
> I understand your question -- I struggled with this a bit too.  I finally
> settled on the template for Cemetery records -- Grave markers ...  --
> Online images   On the Master Source I changed the Item Type to
> Database and Digital Images.  Then on the Detail records I use:
> photograph, gravestone for ...  or database entry for ...   depending on
> whether or not there is a photograph of the gravestone.I include the
> name and location of the cemetery in the Detail entry and the Find A Grave
> memorial number in the detail notes set to printing.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Kirstin 
> wrote:
>
>> Cathy, I only use the generic source when I can't find one that suits my
>> purpose. Find-A-Grave is the one I was working on and couldn't get it to
>> appear the way I wanted it too. I've looked on the internet at how
>> different people source Find-A-Grave and couldn't make it look like I
>> want it to look. As far as I'm concerned Find-A-Grave is a repository,
>> not an author or title. All my other database sources work rather well
>> with some tweaking (Birth Certificates, Death Certificates, Marriage
>> Licenses, etc). I'd like to hear how others are sourcing Find-A-Grave.
>> Most of what I found on line referred to templates in other programs.
>>
>> Kirstin
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/31/2014 5:25 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:
>>> Kristin,
>>> You really are an extreme lumper if you put all online databases under
>>> the one Master Source.
>>> Why not do yourself a favour and become less of a lumper so you don't
>>> have to use the Source Citation Override for almost every source you add.
>>>
>>> You'd find you'd add sources far faster ;-)
>>>
>>> You must have to find and enter the information for every particular
>>> database you use again every time you enter a source - or do you only
>>> use online databases that have the source citation nicely formatted for
>>> you like FamilySearch that you can copy and paste? In which case you're
>>> missing out on heaps of data?
>>>
>>> Cathy
>>>
>>> Leon Chapman wrote:

 Kristin:

 Please indicate what version of Legacy you are using.

 I don't understand your use of Override for the citation??
 Are you editing an EVENT and then choosing to Edit Event Sentence
 Definition?
 ​Is this what you are calling an Override?

 ​If you are editing a Master Source, I do not see any 
 OVERRIDE
>> function -
 1. You can edit the Source name, author, Title, Pub facts etc, but no
 override function.

 We need more information about how you are getting to OVERRIDE
 function that you are referring.
 Chap

 ___
 Leon Chapman
 chap...@gmail.com 
 -


 On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Kirstin >>> > wrote:

 I have been playing with sources and struggle with the output
 since I'm a profound lumper. I have started using basic sources
 and have a source called "online database" with nothing in the
 source and use the override for the citation. The bibliography
 shows up blank (which I can live with) but if I edit the override
 and try to add it to all sourced entries via the source entry
 window it won't update the same source with the new citation data
 in the override. Big problem.

 This has always been a problem for photos. If you change or add a
 photo and don't change anything else it won't update the citation.

 The work around is to change one work in the citation.

 Can anyone else duplicate?

>




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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing headaches

[Pat Hickin]

Personally, I'm an extreme splitter -- for everything except Findagrave --
and I like that just fine -- in fact I can see no disadvantages whatsoever.

Pat


On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Nancy Stevens 
wrote:

> I understand your question -- I struggled with this a bit too.  I finally
> settled on the template for Cemetery records -- Grave markers ...  --
> Online images   On the Master Source I changed the Item Type to
> Database and Digital Images.  Then on the Detail records I use:
> photograph, gravestone for ...  or database entry for ...   depending on
> whether or not there is a photograph of the gravestone.I include the
> name and location of the cemetery in the Detail entry and the Find A Grave
> memorial number in the detail notes set to printing.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Kirstin 
> wrote:
>
>> Cathy, I only use the generic source when I can't find one that suits my
>> purpose. Find-A-Grave is the one I was working on and couldn't get it to
>> appear the way I wanted it too. I've looked on the internet at how
>> different people source Find-A-Grave and couldn't make it look like I
>> want it to look. As far as I'm concerned Find-A-Grave is a repository,
>> not an author or title. All my other database sources work rather well
>> with some tweaking (Birth Certificates, Death Certificates, Marriage
>> Licenses, etc). I'd like to hear how others are sourcing Find-A-Grave.
>> Most of what I found on line referred to templates in other programs.
>>
>> Kirstin
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/31/2014 5:25 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:
>> > Kristin,
>> > You really are an extreme lumper if you put all online databases under
>> > the one Master Source.
>> > Why not do yourself a favour and become less of a lumper so you don't
>> > have to use the Source Citation Override for almost every source you
>> add.
>> >
>> > You'd find you'd add sources far faster ;-)
>> >
>> > You must have to find and enter the information for every particular
>> > database you use again every time you enter a source - or do you only
>> > use online databases that have the source citation nicely formatted for
>> > you like FamilySearch that you can copy and paste? In which case you're
>> > missing out on heaps of data?
>> >
>> > Cathy
>> >
>> > Leon Chapman wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Kristin:
>> >>
>> >> Please indicate what version of Legacy you are using.
>> >>
>> >> I don't understand your use of Override for the citation??
>> >> Are you editing an EVENT and then choosing to Edit Event Sentence
>> >> Definition?
>> >> ​Is this what you are calling an Override?
>> >>
>> >> ​If you are editing a Master Source, I do not see any OVERRIDE
>> function -
>>
>> >> 1. You can edit the Source name, author, Title, Pub facts etc, but no
>> >> override function.
>> >>
>> >> We need more information about how you are getting to OVERRIDE
>> >> function that you are referring.
>> >> Chap
>> >>
>> >> ___
>> >> Leon Chapman
>> >> chap...@gmail.com 
>> >> -
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Kirstin > >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I have been playing with sources and struggle with the output
>> >> since I'm a profound lumper. I have started using basic sources
>> >> and have a source called "online database" with nothing in the
>> >> source and use the override for the citation. The bibliography
>> >> shows up blank (which I can live with) but if I edit the override
>> >> and try to add it to all sourced entries via the source entry
>> >> window it won't update the same source with the new citation data
>> >> in the override. Big problem.
>> >>
>> >> This has always been a problem for photos. If you change or add a
>> >> photo and don't change anything else it won't update the citation.
>> >>
>> >> The work around is to change one work in the citation.
>> >>
>> >> Can anyone else duplicate?
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing headaches

[Nancy Stevens]

I understand your question -- I struggled with this a bit too.  I finally
settled on the template for Cemetery records -- Grave markers ...  --
Online images   On the Master Source I changed the Item Type to
Database and Digital Images.  Then on the Detail records I use:
photograph, gravestone for ...  or database entry for ...   depending on
whether or not there is a photograph of the gravestone.I include the
name and location of the cemetery in the Detail entry and the Find A Grave
memorial number in the detail notes set to printing.




On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Kirstin 
wrote:

> Cathy, I only use the generic source when I can't find one that suits my
> purpose. Find-A-Grave is the one I was working on and couldn't get it to
> appear the way I wanted it too. I've looked on the internet at how
> different people source Find-A-Grave and couldn't make it look like I
> want it to look. As far as I'm concerned Find-A-Grave is a repository,
> not an author or title. All my other database sources work rather well
> with some tweaking (Birth Certificates, Death Certificates, Marriage
> Licenses, etc). I'd like to hear how others are sourcing Find-A-Grave.
> Most of what I found on line referred to templates in other programs.
>
> Kirstin
>
>
>
> On 8/31/2014 5:25 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:
> > Kristin,
> > You really are an extreme lumper if you put all online databases under
> > the one Master Source.
> > Why not do yourself a favour and become less of a lumper so you don't
> > have to use the Source Citation Override for almost every source you add.
> >
> > You'd find you'd add sources far faster ;-)
> >
> > You must have to find and enter the information for every particular
> > database you use again every time you enter a source - or do you only
> > use online databases that have the source citation nicely formatted for
> > you like FamilySearch that you can copy and paste? In which case you're
> > missing out on heaps of data?
> >
> > Cathy
> >
> > Leon Chapman wrote:
> >>
> >> Kristin:
> >>
> >> Please indicate what version of Legacy you are using.
> >>
> >> I don't understand your use of Override for the citation??
> >> Are you editing an EVENT and then choosing to Edit Event Sentence
> >> Definition?
> >> ​Is this what you are calling an Override?
> >>
> >> ​If you are editing a Master Source, I do not see any OVERRIDE
> function -
> >> 1. You can edit the Source name, author, Title, Pub facts etc, but no
> >> override function.
> >>
> >> We need more information about how you are getting to OVERRIDE
> >> function that you are referring.
> >> Chap
> >>
> >> ___
> >> Leon Chapman
> >> chap...@gmail.com 
> >> -
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Kirstin  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I have been playing with sources and struggle with the output
> >> since I'm a profound lumper. I have started using basic sources
> >> and have a source called "online database" with nothing in the
> >> source and use the override for the citation. The bibliography
> >> shows up blank (which I can live with) but if I edit the override
> >> and try to add it to all sourced entries via the source entry
> >> window it won't update the same source with the new citation data
> >> in the override. Big problem.
> >>
> >> This has always been a problem for photos. If you change or add a
> >> photo and don't change anything else it won't update the citation.
> >>
> >> The work around is to change one work in the citation.
> >>
> >> Can anyone else duplicate?
> >>
> >>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing headaches

[Jenny M Benson]

On 02/09/2014 00:32, Kirstin wrote:
> I am using Legacy 8.0.0.439 on a Windows 7 computer. I have a basic
> source named "Online database" that is completely blank. I use it when I
> can't find a template that suits me. When I go to the citation detail,
> the "source detail" box is useless since it has a limited number of
> characters. If I enter the information in the Text box it adds the name
> of the master source before the text. I type the source as I'd like to
> to appear in the Overrides box in the source detail and it looks fine
> (except the Bibliography being blank). But when I update the text in the
> override box I have to do each source separately since the change
> doesn't show up if I try to update each time the source appears by
> pasting. I have to first remove the previous entry and re-add the new
> one. It's hard to explain and I've probably confused the issue more. It
> doesn't seem like the basic sources work very well.

Thank you Kirstin.  I understand completely, now - except why you choose
to use this method, rather than the more conventional one.  However, as
I said before, it's entirely your choice to make.

I think you have to accept, thought, that if you use unconventional
methods the results may well be unconventional.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing headaches

[Leon Chapman]

Kristin:

Here is how I source Find-A-Grave:

Source List Name:  Find-a-Grave - Angstadt, Daniel Keller - 1790

Type:  WWW Internet

Author:  BLANK

Title:  Find-a-Grave - Angstadt, Daniel Keller - 1790

Publication Facts:
Daniel K. Angstadt, Birth:  Mar. 19, 1790, Death:  Apr. 13, 1878, Veteran
of the War of 1812,
Parents:  Johan George Angstadt (1755 - 1856),  Catharine Kildow Angstadt
(1764 - 1855)
Spouse:  Catharina Brobst Angstadt (1799 - 1854)
Children:  Aaron B Angstadt (1820 - 1898)*, William Angstadt (1826 -
1841)*, Samuel Angstadt (1829 - 1853)*, Hannah Angstadt (1831 - 1851)*,
Emilia B. Angstadt Miller (1834 - 1914)*, Benjamin B. Angstadt (1836 -
1902)*
Burial:  Saint Pauls Lutheran Cemetery, Lobachsville, Berks County,
Pennsylvania, USA
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=ANG&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=40&GScntry=4&GSsr=2321&GRid=39998488&;

Recorded Date:   28 Jul 2009 (this is the recorded date on website)

The publication facts are what I found on the Find-A-Grave website.


I reuse this as my basic Template for Find-A-Grave and just change the
persons name (Angstadt, Daniel Keller) and their birth year (1790) and
change the Publication Facts and the Recorded date for a new person.

This works well for me and I use it as a source for all the people listed
in the Publication Facts above.

Hope this helps.
Chap


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On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:

> Why isn't Find A Grave a title?
> It's the name of an online database. The website is the repository of this
> database but that doesn't stop it being the title of the database.
>
> Cathy
>
> Kirstin wrote:
>
>
> Cathy, I only use the generic source when I can't find one that suits my
> purpose. Find-A-Grave is the one I was working on and couldn't get it to
> appear the way I wanted it too. I've looked on the internet at how
> different people source Find-A-Grave and couldn't make it look like I
> want it to look. As far as I'm concerned Find-A-Grave is a repository,
> not an author or title. All my other database sources work rather well
> with some tweaking (Birth Certificates, Death Certificates, Marriage
> Licenses, etc). I'd like to hear how others are sourcing Find-A-Grave.
> Most of what I found on line referred to templates in other programs.
>
> Kirstin
>
>
>
> On 8/31/2014 5:25 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:
>
>
> Kristin,
> You really are an extreme lumper if you put all online databases under
> the one Master Source.
> Why not do yourself a favour and become less of a lumper so you don't
> have to use the Source Citation Override for almost every source you add.
>
> You'd find you'd add sources far faster ;-)
>
> You must have to find and enter the information for every particular
> database you use again every time you enter a source - or do you only
> use online databases that have the source citation nicely formatted for
> you like FamilySearch that you can copy and paste? In which case you're
> missing out on heaps of data?
>
> Cathy
>
> Leon Chapman wrote:
>
>
> Kristin:
>
> Please indicate what version of Legacy you are using.
>
> I don't understand your use of Override for the citation??
> Are you editing an EVENT and then choosing to Edit Event Sentence
> Definition?
> ​Is this what you are calling an Override?
>
> ​If you are editing a Master Source, I do not see any
> OVERRIDE function -
>
> 1. You can edit the Source name, author, Title, Pub facts etc, but no
> override function.
>
> We need more information about how you are getting to OVERRIDE
> function that you are referring.
> Chap
>
> ___
> Leon Chapman
> chap...@gmail.com
>
> -
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Kirstin >  wrote:
>
> I have been playing with sources and struggle with the output
> since I'm a profound lumper. I have started using basic sources
> and have a source called "online database" with nothing in the
> source and use the override for the citation. The bibliogr aphy
> shows up blank (which I can live with) but if I edit the override
> and try to add it to all sourced entries via the source entry
> window it won't update the same source with the new citation data
> in the override. Big problem.
>
> This has always been a problem for photos. If you change or add a
> photo and don't change anything else it won't update the citation.
>
> The work around is to change one work in the citation.
>
> Can anyone else duplicate?
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing headaches

[Cathy Pinner]

Why isn't Find A Grave a title?
It's the name of an online database. The website is the repository of
this database but that doesn't stop it being the title of the database.

Cathy

Kirstin wrote:
>
> Cathy, I only use the generic source when I can't find one that suits my
> purpose. Find-A-Grave is the one I was working on and couldn't get it to
> appear the way I wanted it too. I've looked on the internet at how
> different people source Find-A-Grave and couldn't make it look like I
> want it to look. As far as I'm concerned Find-A-Grave is a repository,
> not an author or title. All my other database sources work rather well
> with some tweaking (Birth Certificates, Death Certificates, Marriage
> Licenses, etc). I'd like to hear how others are sourcing Find-A-Grave.
> Most of what I found on line referred to templates in other programs.
>
> Kirstin
>
>
>
> On 8/31/2014 5:25 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:
>>
>> Kristin,
>> You really are an extreme lumper if you put all online databases under
>> the one Master Source.
>> Why not do yourself a favour and become less of a lumper so you don't
>> have to use the Source Citation Override for almost every source you add.
>>
>> You'd find you'd add sources far faster ;-)
>>
>> You must have to find and enter the information for every particular
>> database you use again every time you enter a source - or do you only
>> use online databases that have the source citation nicely formatted for
>> you like FamilySearch that you can copy and paste? In which case you're
>> missing out on heaps of data?
>>
>> Cathy
>>
>> Leon Chapman wrote:
>>>
>>> Kristin:
>>>
>>> Please indicate what version of Legacy you are using.
>>>
>>> I don't understand your use of Override for the citation??
>>> Are you editing an EVENT and then choosing to Edit Event Sentence
>>> Definition?
>>> ​Is this what you are calling an Override?
>>>
>>> ​If you are editing a Master Source, I do not see any
>>> OVERRIDE function -
>>> 1. You can edit the Source name, author, Title, Pub facts etc, but no
>>> override function.
>>>
>>> We need more information about how you are getting to OVERRIDE
>>> function that you are referring.
>>> Chap
>>>
>>> ___
>>> Leon Chapman
>>> chap...@gmail.com
>>> -
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Kirstin>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I have been playing with sources and struggle with the output
>>> since I'm a profound lumper. I have started using basic sources
>>> and have a source called "online database" with nothing in the
>>> source and use the override for the citation. The bibliography
>>> shows up blank (which I can live with) but if I edit the override
>>> and try to add it to all sourced entries via the source entry
>>> window it won't update the same source with the new citation data
>>> in the override. Big problem.
>>>
>>> This has always been a problem for photos. If you change or add a
>>> photo and don't change anything else it won't update the citation.
>>>
>>> The work around is to change one work in the citation.
>>>
>>> Can anyone else duplicate?
>>>
>>>
>>> Legacy User Group guidelines:
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing headaches

[Kirstin]

I am using Legacy 8.0.0.439 on a Windows 7 computer. I have a basic
source named "Online database" that is completely blank. I use it when I
can't find a template that suits me. When I go to the citation detail,
the "source detail" box is useless since it has a limited number of
characters. If I enter the information in the Text box it adds the name
of the master source before the text. I type the source as I'd like to
to appear in the Overrides box in the source detail and it looks fine
(except the Bibliography being blank). But when I update the text in the
override box I have to do each source separately since the change
doesn't show up if I try to update each time the source appears by
pasting. I have to first remove the previous entry and re-add the new
one. It's hard to explain and I've probably confused the issue more. It
doesn't seem like the basic sources work very well.

Kirstin


On 8/30/2014 11:48 PM, Leon Chapman wrote:
> Kristin:
>
> Please indicate what version of Legacy you are using.
>
> I don't understand your use of Override for the citation??
> Are you editing an EVENT and then choosing to Edit Event Sentence
> Definition?
> ​Is this what you are calling an Override?
>
> ​If you are editing a Master Source, I do not see any OVERRIDE function  -
> 1.  You can edit the Source name, author, Title, Pub facts etc, but no
> override function.
>
> We need more information about how you are getting to OVERRIDE function
> that you are referring.
> Chap
>
> ___
> Leon Chapman
> chap...@gmail.com
> -
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Kirstin 
> wrote:
>
>>   I have been playing with sources and struggle with the output since I'm
>> a profound lumper. I have started using basic sources and have a source
>> called "online database" with nothing in the source and use the override
>> for the citation. The bibliography shows up blank (which I can live with)
>> but if I edit the override and try to add it to all sourced entries via the
>> source entry window it won't update the same source with the new citation
>> data in the override. Big problem.
>>
>> This has always been a problem for photos. If you change or add a photo
>> and don't change anything else it won't update the citation.
>>
>> The work around is to change one work in the citation.
>>
>> Can anyone else duplicate?
>>
>>
>> Legacy User Group guidelines:
>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing headaches

[Kirstin]

Cathy, I only use the generic source when I can't find one that suits my
purpose. Find-A-Grave is the one I was working on and couldn't get it to
appear the way I wanted it too. I've looked on the internet at how
different people source Find-A-Grave and couldn't make it look like I
want it to look. As far as I'm concerned Find-A-Grave is a repository,
not an author or title. All my other database sources work rather well
with some tweaking (Birth Certificates, Death Certificates, Marriage
Licenses, etc). I'd like to hear how others are sourcing Find-A-Grave.
Most of what I found on line referred to templates in other programs.

Kirstin



On 8/31/2014 5:25 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:
> Kristin,
> You really are an extreme lumper if you put all online databases under
> the one Master Source.
> Why not do yourself a favour and become less of a lumper so you don't
> have to use the Source Citation Override for almost every source you add.
>
> You'd find you'd add sources far faster ;-)
>
> You must have to find and enter the information for every particular
> database you use again every time you enter a source - or do you only
> use online databases that have the source citation nicely formatted for
> you like FamilySearch that you can copy and paste? In which case you're
> missing out on heaps of data?
>
> Cathy
>
> Leon Chapman wrote:
>>
>> Kristin:
>>
>> Please indicate what version of Legacy you are using.
>>
>> I don't understand your use of Override for the citation??
>> Are you editing an EVENT and then choosing to Edit Event Sentence
>> Definition?
>> ​Is this what you are calling an Override?
>>
>> ​If you are editing a Master Source, I do not see any OVERRIDE 
>> function -
>> 1. You can edit the Source name, author, Title, Pub facts etc, but no
>> override function.
>>
>> We need more information about how you are getting to OVERRIDE
>> function that you are referring.
>> Chap
>>
>> ___
>> Leon Chapman
>> chap...@gmail.com 
>> -
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Kirstin > > wrote:
>>
>> I have been playing with sources and struggle with the output
>> since I'm a profound lumper. I have started using basic sources
>> and have a source called "online database" with nothing in the
>> source and use the override for the citation. The bibliography
>> shows up blank (which I can live with) but if I edit the override
>> and try to add it to all sourced entries via the source entry
>> window it won't update the same source with the new citation data
>> in the override. Big problem.
>>
>> This has always been a problem for photos. If you change or add a
>> photo and don't change anything else it won't update the citation.
>>
>> The work around is to change one work in the citation.
>>
>> Can anyone else duplicate?
>>
>>
>> Legacy User Group guidelines:
>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp
>> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing headaches

[Cathy Pinner]

Jenny,
Kristin has to use the Override I think because she doesn't have a
sensible specific Master Source Name so has to override what would print
with the specific database name.

Kristin,
You can always expect problems when you don't use features as intended.
Overrides are for exceptions. But I don't know why it isn't in the
Gedcom. In the Gedcom export have you checked "override source options -
include all source information?
It may be struggling because the Master Source you are using only has
your personal name and not a Title. I don't know whether the personal
Source Name is exported as part of a gedcom and I haven't time this week
to test that. It couldn't attach the override to nothing.
2 ideas.

Cathy

Jenny M Benson wrote:
>
> On 31/08/2014 20:14, Kirstin wrote:
>>
>> Another thing I noticed is that the override doesn't appear in the
>> GEDCOM.
>>
>> I'm completely stuck. Any suggestions?
>
>
> I don't understand why you need to use the Override at all. With the
> Basic Source Details you are presented with just one field in which you
> can enter whatever text you wish and write it just as you want it to
> appear in a Citation. So why do you have to put anything into the
> Override field?
>
> Having said that, I do think you are making a rod for your own back by
> lumping to such an extent. It would really be much easier for you to
> have a separate Master Source for each online database that you access.
> It would also avoid the problems you are having.
>
> Of course, it is entirely your choice what system you choose to use, but
> I'd be interested to know what are your reasons for working the way
> you do.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing headaches

[Jenny M Benson]

On 31/08/2014 20:14, Kirstin wrote:
> Another thing I noticed is that the override doesn't appear in the GEDCOM.
>
> I'm completely stuck. Any suggestions?

I don't understand why you need to use the Override at all.  With the
Basic Source Details you are presented with just one field in which you
can enter whatever text you wish and write it just as you want it to
appear in a Citation.  So why do you have to put anything into the
Override field?

Having said that, I do think you are making a rod for your own back by
lumping to such an extent.  It would really be much easier for you to
have a separate Master Source for each online database that you access.
  It would also avoid the problems you are having.

Of course, it is entirely your choice what system you choose to use, but
I'd be interested to know what are your reasons for working the way you do.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing headaches

[Kirstin]

Another thing I noticed is that the override doesn't appear in the GEDCOM.

I'm completely stuck. Any suggestions?

Kirstin

On 8/30/2014 7:22 PM, Kirstin wrote:
> I have been playing with sources and struggle with the output since I'm a 
> profound lumper. I have started using basic sources and have a source
> called "online database" with nothing in the source and use the override for 
> the citation. The bibliography shows up blank (which I can live
> with) but if I edit the override and try to add it to all sourced
> entries via the source entry window it won't update the same source with the 
> new citation data in the override. Big problem.
>
>
> This has always been a problem for photos. If you change or add a photo and
> don't change anything else it won't update the citation.
>
>
> The work around is to change one word in the citation.
> Can anyone else duplicate?
>
>
> Legacy User Group guidelines:
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing headaches

[Cathy Pinner]

Kristin,
You really are an extreme lumper if you put all online databases under
the one Master Source.
Why not do yourself a favour and become less of a lumper so you don't
have to use the Source Citation Override for almost every source you add.

You'd find you'd add sources far faster ;-)

You must have to find and enter the information for every particular
database you use again every time you enter a source - or do you only
use online databases that have the source citation nicely formatted for
you like FamilySearch that you can copy and paste? In which case you're
missing out on heaps of data?

Cathy

Leon Chapman wrote:
>
> Kristin:
>
> Please indicate what version of Legacy you are using.
>
> I don't understand your use of Override for the citation??
> Are you editing an EVENT and then choosing to Edit Event Sentence
> Definition?
> ​Is this what you are calling an Override?
>
> ​If you are editing a Master Source, I do not see any OVERRIDE function -
> 1. You can edit the Source name, author, Title, Pub facts etc, but no
> override function.
>
> We need more information about how you are getting to OVERRIDE
> function that you are referring.
> Chap
>
> ___
> Leon Chapman
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> -
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Kirstin  > wrote:
>
> I have been playing with sources and struggle with the output
> since I'm a profound lumper. I have started using basic sources
> and have a source called "online database" with nothing in the
> source and use the override for the citation. The bibliography
> shows up blank (which I can live with) but if I edit the override
> and try to add it to all sourced entries via the source entry
> window it won't update the same source with the new citation data
> in the override. Big problem.
>
> This has always been a problem for photos. If you change or add a
> photo and don't change anything else it won't update the citation.
>
> The work around is to change one work in the citation.
>
> Can anyone else duplicate?
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing headaches

[Leon Chapman]

Kristin:

Please indicate what version of Legacy you are using.

I don't understand your use of Override for the citation??
Are you editing an EVENT and then choosing to Edit Event Sentence
Definition?
​Is this what you are calling an Override?

​If you are editing a Master Source, I do not see any OVERRIDE function  -
1.  You can edit the Source name, author, Title, Pub facts etc, but no
override function.

We need more information about how you are getting to OVERRIDE function
that you are referring.
Chap

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On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Kirstin 
wrote:

>  I have been playing with sources and struggle with the output since I'm
> a profound lumper. I have started using basic sources and have a source
> called "online database" with nothing in the source and use the override
> for the citation. The bibliography shows up blank (which I can live with)
> but if I edit the override and try to add it to all sourced entries via the
> source entry window it won't update the same source with the new citation
> data in the override. Big problem.
>
> This has always been a problem for photos. If you change or add a photo
> and don't change anything else it won't update the citation.
>
> The work around is to change one work in the citation.
>
> Can anyone else duplicate?
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a blank first name in SourceWriter?

[Paula Ryburn]

Leo, Your question is what to enter in the citation, right?  Now what to enter 
as the Given Name of the individual in your database, right?

I've never run into that, but I like your [first name blank] Peter ... or maybe 
unnamed Peter or infant Peter?  I liked the suggestion on using surname style 
conventions like /Peter/ or PETER, too.
--Paula




 From: lio . 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 11:42 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a blank first name in SourceWriter?




In sourcing a birth registration, the first name is blank (or rather has a line 
across the column "  ').
 
When using SourceWriter, it asks for the "ID of the Person".  Recording only 
the surname "Peter", could easily be misread as the person's first name. Would 
you instead use "[first name blank] Peter" (without the quotes)?
 


Thanks for your direction,
 
leo


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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a blank first name in SourceWriter?

[Sherry/Support]

And I'm the exact opposite - my eye is drawn to voids, which remind me
that I'm missing data and need to research to find it.

I'm more likely to ignore fields that have data in them while I"m
looking for what needs to be added!  An "est" date may be the best
I'll ever be able to find so why should I look for that when I have
other individuals with nothing at all..


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
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On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 6:45 AM, singhals  wrote:
> All perfectly true, of course.
>
> I just find blanks easy to miss, and when I'm looking at the
> portion of my tree that has little but names, I'm less
> interested in how to search the db than I am in the
> at-a-glance info of "bef 1519" or "aft 1750".
>
> Cheryl
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a blank first name in SourceWriter?

[singhals]

All perfectly true, of course.

I just find blanks easy to miss, and when I'm looking at the
portion of my tree that has little but names, I'm less
interested in how to search the db than I am in the
at-a-glance info of "bef 1519" or "aft 1750".

Cheryl


Sherry/Support wrote:
> However, the drawback to entering something in a field where you don't
> have information (question marks, dashes, unknown, etc) are:
>
> 1. If you use the "Missing Information" search tab in the Search
> window, you won't find the missing information - it's looking for
> blank fields.
>
> 2. If you use the "not equal to" or "equal to" in a Detailed Search
> and leave the field blank, (find everyone who doesn't have this field
> blank or find everyone who has this field blank - good search for
> missing data) the search won't give you what you're looking for
>
> 3. If you want to use "Insert underlines for missing" in the book
> reports, those fields will not be included since again it's looking
> for empty fields.
>
> 4. Blank fields draw attention to the reader in the chart reports.
>
> So entering anything in the fields that you don't have information for
> can impeded your research.
>
> I know a lot of people insert a lot of different things but I really
> don't recommend it. In my early days I did and now I'm sorry (easy to
> remove for everything but Surname)
>
> Mr and Mrs should only be used as a surname prefix Legacy will
> complain if you put that in a given name field
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:54 AM, singhals  wrote:
>> Or for absolute certainty while scanning a list of name : Mr
>> Ms as appropriate to the known gender.
>>
>> MOST folks are clever enough to realize no one uses Mr or Ms
>> as a given name, it is a blinking flag that more research
>> needs doing, but it pops off the printed page so when I'm
>> going down a printed alpha list that isn't color-coded.
>> Then too -- some newspaper announcements of marriages do
>> refer to the out-of-town party as "Mr. Smith" or "Miss Jones".
>>
>> May not be a "best practice" but it tells me what I want to
>> know and at first glance.
>>
>> Cheryl



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a blank first name in SourceWriter?

[Jim Terry/Support]

And try searching the Internet using terms like "Unknown", "Unk", "???" and
"---" entered into a Surname or other field.  I guarantee Ancestry,
FamilySearch and other genealogy websites will be confused by them and
won't return any useful information.


 Original Message 
> From: "Sherry/Support" 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 9:08 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a blank first name in SourceWriter?
>
> However, the drawback to entering something in a field where you don't
> have information (question marks, dashes, unknown, etc) are:
>
> 1. If you use the "Missing Information" search tab in the Search
> window, you won't find the missing information - it's looking for
> blank fields.
>
> 2. If you use the "not equal to" or "equal to" in a Detailed Search
> and leave the field blank, (find everyone who doesn't have this field
> blank or find everyone who has this field blank - good search for
> missing data) the search won't give you what you're looking for
>
> 3. If you want to use "Insert underlines for missing" in the book
> reports, those fields will not be included since again it's looking
> for empty fields.
>
> 4. Blank fields draw attention to the reader in the chart reports.
>
> So entering anything in the fields that you don't have information for
> can impeded your research.
>
> I know a lot of people insert a lot of different things but I really
> don't recommend it. In my early days I did and now I'm sorry (easy to
> remove for everything but Surname)
>
> Mr and Mrs should only be used as a surname prefix Legacy will
> complain if you put that in a given name field
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:54 AM, singhals  wrote:
> > Or for absolute certainty while scanning a list of name : Mr
> > Ms as appropriate to the known gender.
> >
> > MOST folks are clever enough to realize no one uses Mr or Ms
> > as a given name, it is a blinking flag that more research
> > needs doing, but it pops off the printed page so when I'm
> > going down a printed alpha list that isn't color-coded.
> > Then too -- some newspaper announcements of marriages do
> > refer to the out-of-town party as "Mr. Smith" or "Miss Jones".
> >
> > May not be a "best practice" but it tells me what I want to
> > know and at first glance.
> >
> > Cheryl
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a blank first name in SourceWriter?

[Sherry/Support]

However, the drawback to entering something in a field where you don't
have information (question marks, dashes, unknown, etc) are:

1. If you use the "Missing Information" search tab in the Search
window, you won't find the missing information - it's looking for
blank fields.

2. If you use the "not equal to" or "equal to" in a Detailed Search
and leave the field blank, (find everyone who doesn't have this field
blank or find everyone who has this field blank - good search for
missing data) the search won't give you what you're looking for

3. If you want to use "Insert underlines for missing" in the book
reports, those fields will not be included since again it's looking
for empty fields.

4. Blank fields draw attention to the reader in the chart reports.

So entering anything in the fields that you don't have information for
can impeded your research.

I know a lot of people insert a lot of different things but I really
don't recommend it. In my early days I did and now I'm sorry (easy to
remove for everything but Surname)

Mr and Mrs should only be used as a surname prefix Legacy will
complain if you put that in a given name field


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:54 AM, singhals  wrote:
> Or for absolute certainty while scanning a list of name : Mr
> Ms as appropriate to the known gender.
>
> MOST folks are clever enough to realize no one uses Mr or Ms
> as a given name, it is a blinking flag that more research
> needs doing, but it pops off the printed page so when I'm
> going down a printed alpha list that isn't color-coded.
> Then too -- some newspaper announcements of marriages do
> refer to the out-of-town party as "Mr. Smith" or "Miss Jones".
>
> May not be a "best practice" but it tells me what I want to
> know and at first glance.
>
> Cheryl



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a blank first name in SourceWriter?

[singhals]

Or for absolute certainty while scanning a list of name : Mr
Ms as appropriate to the known gender.

MOST folks are clever enough to realize no one uses Mr or Ms
as a given name, it is a blinking flag that more research
needs doing, but it pops off the printed page so when I'm
going down a printed alpha list that isn't color-coded.
Then too -- some newspaper announcements of marriages do
refer to the out-of-town party as "Mr. Smith" or "Miss Jones".

May not be a "best practice" but it tells me what I want to
know and at first glance.

Cheryl

Brian/Support wrote:
> There are two conventions common in genealogy that you might consider
> using which would not require entering anything extra:
>
> Put the surname Peter in All Caps: PETER
> Surround the surname with slashes: /Peter/
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
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>
> On 30/06/2014 12:42 PM, lio . wrote:
>> In sourcing a birth registration, the first name is blank (or rather has
>> a line across the column "  ').
>>
>> When using SourceWriter, it asks for the "ID of the Person".  Recording
>> only the surname "Peter", could easily be misread as the person's first
>> name. Would you instead use "[first name blank] Peter" (without the quotes)?
>>
>> Thanks for your direction,
>>
>> leo





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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a blank first name in SourceWriter?

[Brian/Support]

There are two conventions common in genealogy that you might consider
using which would not require entering anything extra:

Put the surname Peter in All Caps: PETER
Surround the surname with slashes: /Peter/

Brian
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On 30/06/2014 12:42 PM, lio . wrote:
> In sourcing a birth registration, the first name is blank (or rather has
> a line across the column "  ').
>
> When using SourceWriter, it asks for the "ID of the Person".  Recording
> only the surname "Peter", could easily be misread as the person's first
> name. Would you instead use "[first name blank] Peter" (without the quotes)?
>
> Thanks for your direction,
>
> leo



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing

[Paula Ryburn]

I go the "personal knowledge" route... rather than citing facebook itself.
So, Cousin AB on FB. ;)
 
--Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman 
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field 
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle 
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche 
Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams



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Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 3:16 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcing



I have a quandry.  One of my cousins posted a photo of some of our mutual 
cousins on Facebook.  Would it be better to source as a FB photo by Cousin AB 
or to source as info from Cousin AB on FB? 
Thanks, marie in seattle


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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing

[fersken]

If your cousin is the owner of the photograph and has it in their possession, I 
would show the source as a photograph in possession of:  ??  giving information 
such as the owner’s name and address.  Make sure that you do not post this 
information on the internet however, without permission from your cousin as 
their address and name would accompany the photograph.  I would also include 
the name of the person who took the photograph if it  is known.

From: M Sandvig
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 1:16 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcing

I have a quandry.  One of my cousins posted a photo of some of our mutual 
cousins on Facebook.  Would it be better to source as a FB photo by Cousin AB 
or to source as info from Cousin AB on FB?
Thanks, marie in seattle



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing

[Wendy Howard]

I think you're saying the same thing in your two options, so it's really
a matter of personal preference as to which one you use.  Abbreviations
start to get confusing.  :-)

I have a Basic Source set up in my database for Facebook.  Its details
are as follows:

Source List Name: Website - Facebook.com
Type: Web Site
Title: www.facebook.com

Nothing more.

When I use this source, I put the particular details of this citation
into the Source Detail field, along the lines of:

Picture of John Smith from the Facebook page of Mary Brown posted 1 May
2014, retrieved 5 May 2014.

or even more simply:

Facebook page of Mary Brown posted 1 May 2014, retrieved 5 May 2014.

If there was any text written by Mary in her post about the photo that I
wanted to record, I would put it in the Text field (under the
Text/Comments tab), and I would tick the box to include this in the
citation in reports if that was what I wanted in this situation.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

M Sandvig said the following on 5/05/2014 08:16:
>
> I have a quandry. One of my cousins posted a photo of some of our
> mutual cousins on Facebook.  Would it be better to source as a FB
> photo by Cousin AB or to source as info from Cousin AB on FB?
> Thanks, marie in seattle
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing - just don't "get it"!

[Brian/Support]

Because the email is from you (from address) but is being sent by the
list email server (legacyusers.com) to yourself and everyone else so it
is not being sent by your email server which is the "normal" way mail is
sent.

Is this warning from your spam software or other software you have
scanning your incoming mail? There may be a setting you need to set to
tell your software the this is an email list or that mail from
legacyusers.com is safe.

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On 23/04/2014 4:31 PM, elizabeth wrote:
> Wow, why is my email that I sent to the group being flagged with this
> warning...
> "This message may not have been sent by: newi...@gmail.com  Learn
> more
>Report phishing"???
>
> I receive a lot of them but never expected my own sent email to have it
> added!!!
>
>
> Elizabeth



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing - just don't "get it"!

[Brian/Support]

Because the email is from you (from address) but is being sent by the
list email server (legacyusers.com) to yourself and everyone else so it
is not being sent by your email server which is the "normal" way mail is
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On 23/04/2014 4:31 PM, elizabeth wrote:
> Wow, why is my email that I sent to the group being flagged with this
> warning...
> "This message may not have been sent by: newi...@gmail.com  Learn
> more
>Report phishing"???
>
> I receive a lot of them but never expected my own sent email to have it
> added!!!
>
>
> Elizabeth



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RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing - just don't "get it"!

[Michele/Support]

Elizabeth,

You email came through to the list just fine.  I am ccing your email address to 
make sure you get it.



Michele

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From: elizabeth [mailto:newi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 4:31 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing - just don't "get it"!



Wow, why is my email that I sent to the group being flagged with this warning...
"This message may not have been sent by: newi...@gmail.com 
<mailto:newi...@gmail.com>   Learn more 
<http://support.google.com/mail?hl=en&p=sent_warning>   Report phishing"???

I receive a lot of them but never expected my own sent email to have it added!!!



Elizabeth



On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 3:28 PM, elizabeth mailto:newi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi, I would greatly appreciate assistance with sourcing, possibly off-list. I 
have been struggling to understand where to enter the different parts of a 
source for many years and I still don't get it. And yes, I have looked at 
previous posts and help files.

I can't figure out what info goes where in the source.it's just not making 
sense to me.

I guess it depends on how I want it to look when printed out, but what if I 
want to print various parts of my tree in various different ways??

Any help appreciated,

Elizabeth



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