[OSM-legal-talk] Please enable commercial use

2008-05-06 Thread Nathan Vander Wilt
I've already said quite alot over on talk@, so I'll try to keep this to the point. I am writing a geotagging application that I hope to sell. When I first found OSM, I was very excited for what I could use it for but as I've followed the discussions I've become a lot more concerned. While

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Users whose contributions are in the public domain

2008-05-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Nathan, I'm 100% with you as regards PD; I also think that it would cause much less hassle, make OSM a better project and be morally superior along the way. However there are many people who think differently, and you may encounter some of them on legal-talk to which I'm CCing this, with full

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Users whose contributions are in the public domain

2008-05-06 Thread Nic Roets
I really would like to see a license as simple as the following: For data users - 0. Open Street Map collects and creates public domain map data. 1. Attribution of Open Street Map is expected. We make it easy. 2. Contributing back or freely sharing modifications is strongly encouraged.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please enable commercial use

2008-05-06 Thread A Morris
I cannot open my tiny company and our potential customers to the viral effects of a broad application of the Share Alike intentions under a broad notion of derivative works Perhaps you could give a concrete example of what you plan to do, and explain why the share-alike principle is not

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please enable commercial use

2008-05-06 Thread Nick Black
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Nathan Vander Wilt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've already said quite alot over on talk@, so I'll try to keep this to the point. I am writing a geotagging application that I hope to sell. When I first found OSM, I was very excited for what I could use it for but

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Users whose contributions are in the public domain

2008-05-06 Thread Gervase Markham
Frederik Ramm wrote: That's my problem as well. We are not much better than other owners of geodata. They say: 1. Geodata is very valuable and takes a lot of work to collect and those who do all the work should be the owners of the data and dictate under what rules it may be used; 2.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please enable commercial use

2008-05-06 Thread Gervase Markham
Nathan Vander Wilt wrote: I am writing a geotagging application that I hope to sell. When I first found OSM, I was very excited for what I could use it for but as I've followed the discussions I've become a lot more concerned. While there are many users who want their work to be fully in

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please enable commercial use

2008-05-06 Thread Rob Myers
Which particular FUD do you have in mind? ;-) *Any* licence will carry legal risks. Paying for a proprietary dataset without talking the licence through with a lawyer would be silly. There is no reason why a free licence should be any different. Simple licences are not necessarily easier to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please enable commercial use

2008-05-06 Thread Nathan Vander Wilt
I really would like to see a license as simple as the following: For data users - 0. Open Street Map collects and creates public domain map data. 1. Attribution of Open Street Map is expected. We make it easy. 2. Contributing back or freely sharing modifications is very strongly encouraged.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please enable commercial use

2008-05-06 Thread Nathan Vander Wilt
On May 6, 2008, at 3:24 PM, Rob Myers wrote: Which particular FUD do you have in mind? ;-) Over on the talk list, the notion was spread that even when a user notes that they dedicate their data to the Public domain, all it might take to undo the Public Domain-ness of those contributions