Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Substantial meaning

2009-04-23 Thread Simon Ward
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:42:33AM -0700, SteveC wrote: > Basically, what do we feel substantial means when someone takes some > part of the data? How much is 'substantial'? I won't frame the > question further as I can see a number of ways and we, the license > working group, would like to get a f

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Substantial meaning

2009-04-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, SteveC wrote: > Has there been any discussion on what people here feel 'substantial' > means in the context of the definitions of the ODbL? I've banged > around the wiki looking but might might have missed it. It hasn't been discussed a lot. I guess you have read the often-referred-to pp28-3

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Substantial meaning

2009-04-23 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Jueves, 23 de Abril de 2009, Frederik Ramm escribió: > Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > > If the extraction needs an automated tool, then it is substantial. > > Uh. This means that even the answer to the question "what is the name of > the street at lat=12.345 lon=45.789" would be a substantial extr

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Substantial meaning

2009-04-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > If the extraction needs an automated tool, then it is substantial. Uh. This means that even the answer to the question "what is the name of the street at lat=12.345 lon=45.789" would be a substantial extract because you cannot possibly "peer through the XML" to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Substantial meaning

2009-04-23 Thread Russ Nelson
On Apr 23, 2009, at 2:42 PM, SteveC wrote: > Has there been any discussion on what people here feel 'substantial' > means in the context of the definitions of the ODbL? It's definitely substantial if somebody extracts something matching a single criteria, e.g. an entire state, an entire count