Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL RC and share-alike licensing of Produced Works

2009-06-09 Thread 80n
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Henk Hoff o...@toffehoff.nl wrote: Peter Millar schreef: - Original Message - From: Henk Hoff o...@toffehoff.nl To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Saturday, 6 June, 2009 01:54:07 GMT +00:00 GMT

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OGC Geospatial Rights Management Summit

2009-06-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: Facts are Facts and can't be Copyrighted ... which ist not exactly the position that OSM is taking on this matter; in fact, with ODBL we go to great lengths to ensure that even if our facts should not be copyrightable we still get to say exactly under what

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OGC Geospatial Rights Management Summit

2009-06-09 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: Facts are Facts and can't be Copyrighted ... which ist not exactly the position that OSM is taking on this matter; in fact, with ODBL we go to great lengths to ensure that even if our facts should not be copyrightable we

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL RC and share-alike licensing of Produced Works

2009-06-09 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Matt Amos wrote: RichardF's findings on tracing over photographs make me wonder whether similar arguments can be made for tracing over rendered images. Well, the issue is whether licensing an image as BSD (or CC-BY-SA, or all-rights-reserved, or whatever) automatically overwrites all other

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL RC and share-alike licensing of Produced Works

2009-06-09 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Dave Stubbs wrote: how does 4.3 interact with that, or any of this discussion about bsd/whatever-the-hell-you-like licenses for produced works? (the you must attribute the database on produced works bit) I don't see any way in which ODbL allows you to distribute a Produced Work without

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL RC and share-alike licensing of Produced Works

2009-06-09 Thread Matt Amos
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org wrote: Matt Amos wrote: my understanding is that, because we have database rights (and possibly other IP rights) in the original database, the re-created database is still (a substantial extract of) an ODbL licensed database.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OGC Geospatial Rights Management Summit

2009-06-09 Thread John Wilbanks
Puneet Kishor, who is a Science Commons Fellow looking at geospatial data and climate change, will be attending and hoisting the facts can't be copyrighted flag. jtw legal-talk-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Message: 7 Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:06:00 +0200 From: Frederik Ramm